Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #201 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 3 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 201 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #200 new to the list... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 13:45:02 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #200 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Michael D. Lyons Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > In fact I have heard a "new" Kraftwerk song recently. MTV Europe has a new > show called "Musique Non Stop" and they said that the theme song was written > by Kraftwerk. Well, it just repeats "Musique non stop" over and over again > in a robot voice with some small synth voices on the background. IHMO, it's > not really just a remix but then again not a proper song either... I wanted to ask about this as well, I'd assumed that this was something that was done for the "Technopop" album. By the way, the video for the KW video "The Telephone" (or whatever it's called) credits the tune as a track from "Technopop." Mike -- +==========================================================================+ | Michael D. Lyons | Telefon: +49 911 996750 | EMail: mdl@BinTec.DE | | BinTec Computersysteme | Telefax: +49 911 6880725 | | | Willstaetter Strasse 30 / 90449 Nuernberg / Federal Republic of GERMANY | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 21:38:59 GMT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: new to the list... To: kraftwerk Really-From: jet@netcom.com (J. Eric Townsend) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi all, I've been a Kraftwerk fan since my mom bought Autobahn when it came out in the states. Since then, I've spent far too much time and $$$ collecting kraftwerk vinyl. Does anyone else have the double-album 'Kraftwerk' that has "Rucksack" etc (I think it was originally two different albums)? Or something called "Exciter 8"? (All albums in storage, so I can't go look up exact details.) Are either of them available on CD? all for now, -- jet@netcom.com -- J. Eric Townsend -- '92 R100R: "CLACKER" "It's a lot of face A lot of crank air Eroding around here Summer's ready Summer is ready when you are" -- the Breeders ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 6 Nov 93 04:00:11 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #202 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 6 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 202 Today's Topics: new email address ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 11:24:02 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: new email address To: kraftwerk Really-From: wamme001@telecom.ptt.nl (A.T. Wammes) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi, there have been some problems with my e-mail address lately, can you change it into a.t.wammes@telecom.ptt.nl? Thankx, Albert ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 04:00:11 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #203 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 7 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 203 Today's Topics: Early KW Albums/Electrik Music New Sales list ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1993 14:14:05 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Early KW Albums/Electrik Music To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: jet@netcom.com (J. Eric Townsend) > >Hi all, > >I've been a Kraftwerk fan since my mom bought Autobahn when it came >out in the states. Since then, I've spent far too much time and $$$ >collecting kraftwerk vinyl. > >Does anyone else have the double-album 'Kraftwerk' that has "Rucksack" >etc (I think it was originally two different albums)? Or something >called "Exciter 8"? (All albums in storage, so I can't go look up >exact details.) Are either of them available on CD? > >all for now, > >-- >jet@netcom.com -- J. Eric Townsend -- '92 R100R: "CLACKER" > "It's a lot of face A lot of crank air Eroding around here > Summer's ready Summer is ready when you are" -- the Breeders In response to you early Kraftwerk Albums: The first album Ruckzuck I have and it is gate-fold album with a Transformer on the inside cover. The second album under Kraftwerk I do not have, it is extremely difficult to find, I have been looking for ten years. However, I did find the third album Ralf und Florian, on original Phillips label, and it includes the eight page fold out poster my Emil Schult. If you need to know details check the Kraftwerk Discog at Dave Datta's place. (cs.uwp.edu) None of these albums are available on CD! In regards to Electrik Music: I picked up the new single today! I will let you all know about it after I listen to it more. John Richey ************************************************************************ * John McCall Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 93 23:40:36 PST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New Sales list To: kraftwerk Really-From: DON ECKSTEIN Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu PLEASE SEND A COPY OF YOUR NEW LIST. THANKS ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 04:00:12 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #204 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 8 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 204 Today's Topics: Anything New? (2 msgs) Elektric Music Kraftwerk Poll Results KW Sheet music Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1993 08:10:37 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Anything New? To: kraftwerk Really-From: Bruce_M._Lloyd@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu All - I recall someone saying that they heard a new version of Man Machine while at a Kraftwerk concert. Anyone know of anything new coming soon? I think I've worn out my Mix CD... :) bml ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 16:56:52 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Anything New? To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: Bruce_M._Lloyd@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > All - > > I recall someone saying that they heard a new version of Man Machine while > at a Kraftwerk concert. Anyone know of anything new coming soon? We here know as much as anyone else. Which is not much at all. My personal opinion? I think Ralf and Florian are only going to release a new album when a) they retire b) one of them dies c) Florian leaves the band and joins Tangerine Dream. :-) > I think I've worn out my Mix CD... :) Yeah, we're all impatient too. Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1993 21:33:09 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu The following are the details of the new Lifestyle single from EM: SPV #055-93853 1. Radio-Style 3:39 2. Club-Style 6:00 3. Phenome-Style 3:32 4. Album-Style 4:46 5. Edit-Style 7:30 No details listed on the disc. Very good cover art, no credits given. Cover: Phonetic spelling of Elektric Music and Lifestyle. [i'lektrik'mju:zik] [laifstail] Bartos-1993 In my opinion all tracks are good! ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 8:22:37 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Poll Results To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lars Nellemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Here's the result of the Nov '93 Kraftwerk Poll - the questions were simple: Name your Three favourite KW albums. Name your Five favourite KW songs. It's done in this way - if for example an entry looked like this: Fav. Albums: 1 Man Machine 2 The Mix 3 TEE Then Man Machine gets 3 points, Mix 2 points, and TEE 1 point. However people tend to answer the questions in different ways. 1. Die Roboter 2. The Robots (new version) 3. Die Roboter (From the mix) 4. Die Roboter (12" version) 5. The Robots All these are more or less the same song - So I compiled the poll in two ways. 1. Every new version quoted in the poll will give its independent category. and 2. Every version of the Robots/Die Roboter/mix/12" will be put in one category. I'll enclose the results of the old poll for comparison. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Albums ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. The complete versions poll. Man Machine.............24 Computer World..........21 The Mix (Eng)...........14 Electric Cafe (Eng).....14 Radioaktivity...........13 TEE......................8 Autobahn.................6 Mensch Maschine..........3 The Mix (German).........3 Ralph und Florian........2 The Model................2 Electric Cafe (Ger)......1 2. The compiled versions poll The Old poll Man Machine.............27 The Man Machine ....... 14 Computer World..........21 Computer World ........ 7 The Mix.................17 Electric Cafe ......... 5 Electric Cafe...........15 Autobahn .............. 2 Radioaktivity...........13 Radio Activity ........ 2 TEE......................8 Kraftwerk 2 ........... 1 Autobahn.................6 The Mix ............... 1 The Model................2 Ralph und Florian........2 So what can you say - The Mix have gotten more popular, probably some newcomers in the KW univers who entered through that album - welcome. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Songs ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. The complete versions poll. Tour de France...........26 The Model................23 Radioactivity (The Mix)..23 Autobahn.................20 Computer Love............16 Europe Endless...........16 The Telephone Call.......12 Neonlights...............12 The Robots...............11 Pocket Calculator........10 TEE......................10 Numbers..................10 Sex Object................9 Showroom Dummies..........9 Der Telefon Anruf.........8 Radioactivity.............6 Metropolis................6 Ohm Sweet Ohm.............6 Man Machine...............5 Pocket Calculator (mix)...5 Computer Love (mix).......5 Home Computer.............5 Music Non-Stop............4 Spacelab..................3 Robots (Mix)..............3 Computer liebe............3 Mensch Maschine...........3 Technopop.................3 Electric Cafe.............2 Airwaves..................2 Metal on Metal............2 Franz Schubert............2 Antenna...................1 Computer World............1 Autobahn (The Mix)........1 2. The compiled versions poll The Old poll Radioactivity............29 The Model ............. 25 Tour de France...........24 Autobahn .............. 18 Computer Love............24 The Robots ............ 14 The Model................23 Radio-Activity ........ 13 Autobahn.................21 Neon Lights ........... 12 The Telephone Call.......20 Tour de France ........ 12 Europe Endless...........16 Computer World ........ 9 Pocket Calculator........15 Numbers ............... 9 The Robots...............14 Europe Endless ........ 8 Neonlights...............12 Pocket Calculator ..... 8 TEE......................10 Trans Europe Express .. 8 Numbers..................10 Home Computer ......... 7 Sex Object................9 Musique non Stop ...... 7 Showroom Dummies..........9 The Telephone Call .... 7 Man Machine...............8 Boing Boom Tshack ..... 6 Metropolis................6 Home Computer (Mix).... 6 Ohm Sweet Ohm.............6 Computer Love ......... 3 Home Computer.............5 Kling Klang ........... 3 Music Non-Stop............4 Heimatklange .......... 2 The Man-Machine ....... 2 Spacelab..................3 Metropolis ............ 2 Technopop.................3 Stratovarius .......... 2 Electric Cafe.............2 Franz Schubert ........ 1 Airwaves..................2 Hall of Mirrors ....... 1 Metal on Metal............2 Kristallo ............. 1 Franz Schubert............2 Radioland ............. 1 Antenna...................1 Showroom Dummies ...... 1 Computer World............1 Spacelab .............. 1 Again one see the influence if The Mix, which brought radiactivity up to number one, and helped The robots a few palces up. Tour de France has gained popularity too - of unknown reasons, and the Model has lost its number one - how sadly - this is truly the pop-song of all times - IMHO. I hope this is of interest for someone - and please don't flame me if there happens to be Spelling, Grammatical and/or counting errors - I am just a Man, not a Machine. Lars -- ***************************************** * Lars Nellemann * * University of Copenhagen * * Copenhagen, Denmark * * nelleman@biobase.aau.dk * * FAX: +45 3532 6120 * ***************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 8:23:28 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW Sheet music To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lars Nellemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi Do anybody know if it's possible to get the nodes, the sheet of music, to any of the Kraftwerk tunes? I've just started Keyboard lessons - and I would very much like to play some KW songs (Goes without saying) - My teacher transcribed The Model for me - but if others have done any transcribing to nodes - or know if this info is available in book-form, please let me know. Lars -- ***************************************** * Lars Nellemann * * University of Copenhagen * * Copenhagen, Denmark * * nelleman@biobase.aau.dk * * FAX: +45 3532 6120 * ***************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 15:35:06 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (Eric J. Hansen) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hey, all... I remember a while back when someone made a post to the list saying that KW was a pro-Nazi band, and that they were really evil and all that. Yesterday, I read an article in Rolling Stone magazine about a band called "Storkraft" which meets the above description. I don't remember if the issue (on the KW list) was ever resolved, but maybe this is the band which that individual was confusing with KW. Any comments from our German subscribers? - Eric *---------------------------------------------------------------------* | Eric J. Hansen .................... eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu | | Princeton Transportation Consulting Group, Inc. .... Burlington, MA | *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 04:00:11 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #205 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 9 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 205 Today's Topics: Early KW Albums/Electrik Music Information Society Kraftwerk Digest V1 #204 Stoerkraft Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 22:05:24 -0800 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Early KW Albums/Electrik Music To: kraftwerk Really-From: jet@netcom.com (J. Eric Townsend) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: DATman > The first album Ruckzuck I have and it is gate-fold album with a Transformer on > the inside cover. The second album under Kraftwerk I do not have, it is > extremely difficult to find, I have been looking for ten years. However, I did Ok, so do I have some sort of compilation of the first two albums? Mine has a big sine-wave looking thing all over the front, and is a double lp (w/ gate-fold, I don't remember what's inside). I'll take a look at the discog, thx. -eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 23:21:00 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Information Society To: kraftwerk Really-From: Tina Marie LeMarier Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I was looking at the credits on Info Society's disc "Peace and Love Incorporated" and realized that the song "Where Would I Be Without IBM" was produced by Elektric Music. Somehow I never put the two together. that song happens to be my favourite on the album. shaneKing ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 14:08:54 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #204 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Michael D. Lyons Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > I recall someone saying that they heard a new version of Man Machine while > > at a Kraftwerk concert. Anyone know of anything new coming soon? I think you misunderstood something. On their 1991 tour, KW didn't play Man Machine/Mensch Maschine (I saw them in Oct. 91 in Munich). The few gigs that they played this year (e.g. Osnabrueck) were identical to the '91 concerts, except for the addition of Man Machine. That's what was new. Mike -- +==========================================================================+ | Michael D. Lyons | Telefon: +49 911 996750 | EMail: mdl@BinTec.DE | | BinTec Computersysteme | Telefax: +49 911 6880725 | | | Willstaetter Strasse 30 / 90449 Nuernberg / Federal Republic of GERMANY | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 14:12:15 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Stoerkraft To: kraftwerk Really-From: Michael D. Lyons Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Yesterday, I read an article in Rolling Stone magazine about a band > called "Storkraft" which meets the above description. > Any comments from our German subscribers? Well, I'm not exactly German, but...Yes, Stoerkraft is a neo-Nazi/skinhead band that is fairly popular in that "scene." I don't know whether the person that thought KW were Nazis mistook them for Stoerkraft or not. Mike -- +==========================================================================+ | Michael D. Lyons | Telefon: +49 911 996750 | EMail: mdl@BinTec.DE | | BinTec Computersysteme | Telefax: +49 911 6880725 | | | Willstaetter Strasse 30 / 90449 Nuernberg / Federal Republic of GERMANY | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1993 19:40:33 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: Bruce_M._Lloyd@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >I remember a while back when someone made a post to the list saying >that KW was a pro-Nazi band, and that they were really evil and all that. No, that wasn't the thread at all. I asked what KW politics were and everyone jumped on me for calling them Nazis. I dont know if they're Nazis, and no one really answered the question. bml ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #206 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 10 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 206 Today's Topics: Early KW Albums/Electrik Music Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 23:26:05 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Early KW Albums/Electrik Music To: kraftwerk Really-From: bombuzal Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: DATman > > The first album Ruckzuck I have and it is gate-fold album with a Transformer on > > the inside cover. The second album under Kraftwerk I do not have, it is > > extremely difficult to find, I have been looking for ten years. However, I did > > Ok, so do I have some sort of compilation of the first two albums? > Mine has a big sine-wave looking thing all over the front, and is a > double lp (w/ gate-fold, I don't remember what's inside). This is the UK release with both Kraftwerk 1 and Kraftwerk 2 on it. Greetings, Peter van Dam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 14:45:04 +0200 (EET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: Brummer Brummer Brummer Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Yesterday, I read an article in Rolling Stone magazine about a band > called "Storkraft" which meets the above description. I don't remember > if the issue (on the KW list) was ever resolved, but maybe this is the > band which that individual was confusing with KW. Any comments from > our German subscribers? Well, I'm Finnish but I read about this band (and some other German skinhead bands) on Select (a British music magazine) some time ago. Apparently Storkraft started out as a nazi band but then became more popular and are now trying to separate themselves from the neo-nazi movement. Just a bunch of assholes according to what read. Never trust a facist! Ob.Kraftwerk: I noticed yesterday that a record company called Cleopatra have been re-issuing many Kraftwerk albums with more or less altered covers and some new linear notes. I saw "Man-Machine" and "Radioactivity" and 2 collections. Could they perhaps release also the first albums on CD? Fly on! brummer@beta.hut.fi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Nov 93 12:59:29 +45722724 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: (Chris.Hilker) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: Brummer Brummer Brummer > Ob.Kraftwerk: I noticed yesterday that a record company called Cleopatra >have been re-issuing many Kraftwerk albums with more or less altered covers >and some new linear notes. I saw "Man-Machine" and "Radioactivit>y" and 2 >collections. Could they perhaps release also the first albums on CD? Unfortunately not. Cleopatra is a sublabel of Capitol, so these are just reissues of the Capitol-licensed albums ('Radio-Activity,' 'The Man- Machine,' and TEE). However, it has occurred to me that these reissues (and that 'The Model' compilation) might be a last-ditch effort on the part of Capitol to cash in on the licenses before they run out. Is it possible that the rights to these records will be reverting to Kraftwerk soon, and that we might see [drool] a KW box set, with material from the early albums, in the near future? One can only dream. C. -- (chris.hilker) cspot@cats.ucsc.edu "For your information, you mindless twit, I am not a his/her." - Ashima Saigal (asaig@ctp.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 19:22:51 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Mon, 8 Nov 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > >I remember a while back when someone made a post to the list saying > >that KW was a pro-Nazi band, and that they were really evil and all that. > > No, that wasn't the thread at all. I asked what KW politics were and > everyone jumped on me for calling them Nazis. > > I dont know if they're Nazis, and no one really answered the question. > > bml Actually it was ME who started that. It just happened to coincide with the big KW politics thread. Not my opinion though. I had asked a friend of mine (who's German) if she had ever heard of KW, and the description she gave me didn't at all jive with what KW is really like (if anyone knows what they're really like at all); at least, not KW as we know it. But I see the confusion in the names is quite easy to comprehend. Gabe ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 04:00:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #207 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 11 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 207 Today's Topics: Digest mail Information Society (3 msgs) Kraftwerk Digest V1 #206 KW Sheet music ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 07:36:09 -0600 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Digest mail To: kraftwerk Really-From: David Datta Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Digest members are getting some mail immediately because someone is e-mailing the wrong address for the list. Remember, to post to the list, mail to kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu. DO NOT mail kraftwerk-digest. I will be writing some filters so that the messages will be rejected. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 21:13:41 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Information Society To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jonathan Komar Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Mon, 8 Nov 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Tina Marie LeMarier > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > I was looking at the credits on Info Society's disc "Peace and Love > Incorporated" and realized that the song "Where Would I Be Without IBM" > was produced by Elektric Music. Somehow I never put the two together. > that song happens to be my favourite on the album. > > shaneKing > You know, that's one of my favorite alubms of all time and I didn't even realize that. If you look at the credits, the next song "To Be Free" was also produced by Elektric Music. I'm really looking forward to the work that these guys are going to do with Electronic soon. I hope it's as good as their job with INSOC. Jonathan Komar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 00:23:41 +45722724 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Information Society To: kraftwerk Really-From: (Chris.Hilker) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: Jonathan Komar [Elektric Music/Information Society] >I'm really looking forward to the work that these guys are going to do >with Electronic soon. I hope it's as good as their job with INSOC. I've seen references to a project involving Electronic and another band (usually LFO) all over the net, but I haven't seen anything in the musical press about it. Can anyone quote from a (magazine-type) article that mentions this supposed collaboration? C. -- (chris.hilker) cspot@cats.ucsc.edu "For your information, you mindless twit, I am not a his/her." - Ashima Saigal (asaig@ctp.com) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 09:46:36 +0000 (GMT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Information Society To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > I've seen references to a project involving Electronic and another band > (usually LFO) all over the net, but I haven't seen anything in the musical > press about it. Can anyone quote from a (magazine-type) article that > mentions this supposed collaboration? Both LFO and Elektric Music have stated that they have worked together - it was mentioned in Select magazine (UK) over a year ago just after the Planet Rock remix project. I have read that Elektric Music is working with Bernard Sumner and Johnny Marr (aka Electronic) - I think it was either in Q or in Select, and it has been in the past couple of months. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 06:37:34 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #206 To: kraftwerk Really-From: jaze@echonyc.com (Jonathan Hayes) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu This has probably been discussed previously, but does anyone have any idea WHY "Tour de France" hasn't appeared as a CD? Or has it, and I just missed it? I couldn't believe that it wasn't on THE MIX. Also, I seem to be getting quite a lot (well, a message a day) of mail intended for the Digest. I'm not quite sure why. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 18:32:50 +0200 (EET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW Sheet music To: kraftwerk Really-From: Brummer Brummer Brummer Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: Lars Nellemann > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Hi > > Do anybody know if it's possible to get the nodes, the sheet of music, to > any of the Kraftwerk tunes? > > I've just started Keyboard lessons - and I would very much like to > play some KW songs (Goes without saying) - My teacher transcribed The > Model for me - but if others have done any transcribing to nodes - or > know if this info is available in book-form, please let me know. I don't know about sheet music but I have an old magazine (was it Musican... I'm not sure) that has some parts of the robots transcripted for Midi programming but it's good for just playing, too. I could try to write them here or something... Fly on! brummer@beta.hut.fi ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 04:00:15 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #208 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 12 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 208 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #207 Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 13:39:47 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #207 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard Karty Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I confess to having spread the news of the LFO / Elektric Music collaboration. I don't say "rumor" because the LFO interviews I saw were quite specific, actually. One was in MM , oh it's been nearly a year, I'd say (with color photos of LFO!) and one was in a "Volume" compilation cd + booklet. They said the track was called "Information" and they were doing a 5-second mix of it that they were possibly going to license to CNN (that's a cable TV news channel, for you non-North Americans) for use as a tag. I don't know if this last bit was a joke or not. Also in "Volume" LFO talk about the remix of Planet Rock that was not released. (Note that on the e.p. it says "House Mix II by LFO"). I'm no longer holding my breath for this stuff, by the way! Richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 21:01 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: alex@hal.rhein-main.de (Alexander Lehmann) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Brummer Brummer Brummer > Apparently Storkraft started out as a nazi band but then became more > popular and are now trying to separate themselves from the neo-nazi > movement. Just a bunch of assholes according to what read. I guess this is a again a mixup. A band that is around for at least the last ten year called Boehze Onkelz (note the missspelling), who did some lyrics that got very popular again recently in the nazi music scene, did a new album again new nazis. Stoehrkraft were convicted for promoting race hate in a trial about half a year ago and I don't think they really tried to change. (I hope I'm not confusing this again, there are a couple of nazi bands around, lately) > Never trust a facist! Second that! Ob.anti.fascist: has anybody of you heared of Consolidated!, a band that states their anti-fascist views very directly. Not very Kraftwerkish, though. bye, Alexander ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 04:00:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #209 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 13 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 209 Today's Topics: neo Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 12:50:05 CDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: neo To: kraftwerk Really-From: JWGROTE@ucs.indiana.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu hi. i'm a brand-new subscriber, so please forgive this passe' question... but i've GOT to know.... is there any concrete reason to believe that kraftwerk is currently at work on new material? i read bartos' interview in future music and he kind of scared me with his insights about kraftwerk being a jumbo jet and having its dinosaur synclavier, etc... are they in dusseldorf doing anything? what's up with them? also, does anyone know why they seem to put about 5 years between releases? is it because they feel (rightfully so) that they are making their definitive electronic statement in each phase/epoch, and everything else that they'd do is just derivative? my brow is furrowed. thanks for any info that you may provide. JWGROTE@UCS.INDIANA.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 13:25:16 +0200 (EET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Storkraft vs. Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: Brummer Brummer Brummer Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: alex@hal.rhein-main.de (Alexander Lehmann) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > I guess this is a again a mixup. A band that is around for at least the last > ten year called Boehze Onkelz (note the missspelling), Oops, you may be right. Well, I read that article long time ago and what do I know anyway... :) > Ob.anti.fascist: has anybody of you heared of Consolidated!, a band that > states their anti-fascist views very directly. Not very Kraftwerkish, though. Yes. Rather good band but if you are interested in hearing social commentry in your music I recommend Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprasy. Interesting stuff. Ob.Kraftwerk: Boing Boom Tschak. Fly on! brummer@beta.hut.fi ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 04:00:12 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #210 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 15 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 210 Today's Topics: New Album of Kraftwerk Covers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 19:40:45 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New Album of Kraftwerk Covers To: kraftwerk Really-From: d.a.davies@bham.ac.uk (David Davies) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi everyone! Does anyone have any info on the soon to be released album of Kraftwerk covers compiled by members of the band, Laibach? It rated a 9/10 in the previews section of November's UK VOX magazine. I have just joined this list so please excuse me if this has already been discussed. David Davies Department of Physiology, The Medical School, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT. UK. Tel No - +44-(0)-21-414-6936 Fax - +44-(0)-21-414-6924 Janet - D.A.Davies@uk.ac.bham Internet - D.A.Davies@bham.ac.uk WWW/URL - http://med152.bham.ac.uk/http/signatures/davies.html ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #211 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 16 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 211 Today's Topics: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Kraftwerk Digest V1 #210 Laibach covers Kraftwerk (2 msgs) New Kraftwerk Album (2 msgs) Pepe! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 09:04:03 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu To: kraftwerk Really-From: gsp3@cornell.edu (Jedi Greg) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ----- Greg Pass gsp3@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 12:27:12 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #210 To: kraftwerk Really-From: JWGROTE@ucs.indiana.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu kraftwerk covers by laibach?! i knew nothing of it. someone - - do tell!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 18:08:20 +0000 (GMT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Laibach covers Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > kraftwerk covers by laibach?! > i knew nothing of it. > someone - - do tell!! Laibach and a load of other Slovenian bands have covered Kraftwerk songs - apparantly they are mainly from the Autobahn to Computer World era. The bands covered what song they liked best - which is why there are five versions of Radioactivity on the album. Q Magazine reviewed it, and gave it one star (out of five), whereas Vox gave it 9/10. From I understand, the covers are very industrial sounding, and some Kraftwerk purists might not like it. The album is called "Kraftwerk through the looking glass" and is on Mute Records (catalogue number STUMM 131). However, it hasn't been released in the UK yet. This is actually the second album that Mute have released which has a collection of Kraftwerk covers - The Balanescu Quartet's "Possessed" covered five KW songs. Perhaps there is someone at Mute who likes KW. Richard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 18:44:49 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Laibach covers Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: d.a.davies@bham.ac.uk (David Davies) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu For those interested, I have OCR'd the VOX review and enclosed it below. Has anyone ever heard any covers by Laibach - they're a real scream! They're not done as a piss take - it's just the way Laibach sound. Check out their version of Across the Universe by the Beatles. Wierd. Here's the review. VOX December 1993 VARIOUS ARTISTS Kraftwerk In The Looking Glass /Mufe CDSTUMM 131) Liberal-minded fans of Dusseldorf's finest are in for a feast with this Slovenian tribute to Ralf and Florian. Master- minded by Laibach-taking a breather, presumably, from mixing it with the UN over the Balkans-it features the likes of Coptic Rain and Borghesia covering klassic Kraft werks. Tellingly, while a number of pieces sample from 'Techno- Pop', it is notable by its absence from this selection. Most contributors go for earlier Kraftwerk: 'Autobahn' ('Kometenmelodie'), 'Radioactivity' (no less than five versions, making it a Slovenian fave), and 'Man Machine'. Of special note are Random Logic's sizzling cover of 'Home Computer', Beitthron's sawy choice of 'Airwaves' (an early Kraftwerk gem) and Coptic Rain's thrilling hardcore reading of 'The Robots'. Eine kleine stunner. 9 John Gill David Davies Department of Physiology, The Medical School, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT. UK. Tel No - +44-(0)-21-414-6936 Fax - +44-(0)-21-414-6924 Janet - D.A.Davies@uk.ac.bham Internet - D.A.Davies@bham.ac.uk WWW/URL - http://med152.bham.ac.uk/http/signatures/davies.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 15:05:55 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New Kraftwerk Album To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu New Album due to be realeased: Name to be announced. Due Nov. 24th #TOCP 7914 Japan Release First! Info from Japan is usually always first. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 18:11:35 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New Kraftwerk Album To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Mon, 15 Nov 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: DATman > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > New Album due to be realeased: > > Name to be announced. > > Due Nov. 24th > > #TOCP 7914 > > Japan Release First! Info from Japan is usually always first. > > Really? A new album? Is it _BY_ the boys themselves? Or is it that new cover album featuring Laibach and other Slovenian industrial bands? Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 15:08:22 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Pepe! To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Are you still there? Pepe@ctivax.es (etc.) Jose Garcia!!!!!!!! If so let us know. ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 08:15:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #212 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 18 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 212 Today's Topics: !!!New Kraftwerk!!! (2 msgs) Jose garcia ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:29:30 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: !!!New Kraftwerk!!! To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu The new album from Kraftwerk which I mentioned on the last post is a new album. !!!NEW MATERIAL!!! Album Title: TBA Label: Emi/Capitol Japan: TOCP 7914 Release Date: Nov. 24th Japan ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 9:53:00 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: !!!New Kraftwerk!!! To: kraftwerk Really-From: Niels Olof Bouvin Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I talked to a guy in the leading techno/etc store in town, and he said that it had been delayed and would appear early next year. Anyone got any infor- mation regarding this? Kraftwerk have delayed things before, and they could do it again (though I sincerly hope not, new material, NEW MATERIAL!!!!). I just bought the Electric Music Lifestyle remixes. Nice remixes, but just remixes. Are they coming out with anything *new*? Best regards! Niels Olof Bouvin +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Paradise | /=====\ | Is exactly like | |____ | | Where you are right now | OO @\| | Only much much | /_ | | Better. Laurie Anderson | |_____| +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | | | Niels Olof Bouvin, Aarhus Universitet, Denmark | +-----+ +-----+ | bouvin@daimi.aau.dk | | NoB | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 14:36:15 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard Karty Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello, This message is to apologize to those of you whose messages to me bounced back as "user unkown" or whatever over the last day or two. I had nothing to do with this whatsoever - the computer decided to erase my account yesterday for absolutely no reason. I just spent 2 hours creating a new one and the semi-animate life-forms here in the Computer Center tell me that all mail sent to me in the last day or two bounced back. Sorry if the junk showed up on mailing lists! Kafka-esque-ly, Richard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:37:35 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Jose garcia To: kraftwerk Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I saw someone looking for Jose Garcia. He's not directly connected to the net anymore, but as I understand, he catches up from time to time. If you need to contact him directly, you may try so by 1. waiting 'till he contacts you 2. con- tacting me. I'll send the info further. ________________________________________________________________________________ Hillebrand Boorsma = Boorsma@duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl = +31 15 782473 +31 15 615553 "I'm the antenna,catching vibrations;You're the transmitter,give information" ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 04:00:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #213 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 19 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 213 Today's Topics: Electric Music Lifestyle remixes (2 msgs) Jose Garcia New bootleg CD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 16:12:42 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Electric Music Lifestyle remixes To: kraftwerk Really-From: d.a.davies@bham.ac.uk (David Davies) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >I just bought the Electric Music Lifestyle remixes. Nice remixes, but just >remixes. Could someone tell me more about this album as I appear to have missed it? Thanks, David Davies Department of Physiology, The Medical School, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT. UK. Tel No - +44-(0)-21-414-6936 Fax - +44-(0)-21-414-6924 Janet - D.A.Davies@uk.ac.bham Internet - D.A.Davies@bham.ac.uk WWW/URL - http://med152.bham.ac.uk/http/signatures/davies.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 8:26:58 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Electric Music Lifestyle remixes To: kraftwerk Really-From: Niels Olof Bouvin Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: d.a.davies@bham.ac.uk (David Davies) > > >I just bought the Electric Music Lifestyle remixes. Nice remixes, but just > >remixes. > > Could someone tell me more about this album as I appear to have missed it? > Nothing much really... The cover title is Electric Music: Lifestyle spelled out in phonetics. The music is Lifestyle in five different mixes (Radio, Club, Phoneme (quite cute), Cut (I think) and Album Style). That's it and that's all. > Thanks, > > David Davies No problem Niels Olof Bouvin +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | | /=====\ | 'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice. | |____ | | And when justive is gone, there's always force. | OO @\| | And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom! | /_ | | Laurie Anderson | |_____| +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | | | Niels Olof Bouvin, Aarhus Universitet, Denmark | +-----+ +-----+ | bouvin@daimi.aau.dk | | NoB | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 11:13:46 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Jose Garcia To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hillebrand, I was just wondering where Jose Garcia was, I understand now. I was hoping he could confirm on his end the KW release. The info I have is very good, the source is extremely reliable. What do you have on your end? How is Delft, I have not been there for years. Hello to Jose! John ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 09:38:34 +0200 (EET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New bootleg CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jouko Antero Huhtala Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu HEY ! Here is one bootleg cd which I did'n find on the discography Kraftwerk -The Remix- * computerwelt (razormaid-mix) 10,00 * das model (razormaid-edit) 2,26 * sex object (razormaid-mix) 7,41 * pocket calculator (mixx-it remix) 6,33 * the telephone call (razormaid-mix) 6,48 * the mix-medley (razormaid-mix) 13,18 * re-werked (musicfactory master mix) 4,39 * sex object (techno pop version) 4,02 * tour de france (disconet-remix) 5,33 * electric cafe (mix-it remix) 5,06 * technopop (demo version) 4,19 Record is SmurfCD92-05 and release year 1992. All tracks are studio quality, exept Sex Object (techno pop version) and Technopop (demo version) which are propably made at somebody's home studio. (I think these are REALLY original demo versions). There is also at least one Kraftwerk mix on DMC (Disco Mix Club) DJ-records which I also did't find on the discography. * DMC mixes June 89 (record 1) - Tour de Breaks ... BPM 129 - remixed by Chad J sliced by Edit Terrorists One more thing: I uploaded one Kraftwerk MOD to cs.uwp.edu /pub/msdos/incoming-directory. It is megamix from Electric Cafe. It's quite big (unzipped 600k) - sorry about that, but the sounds make Kraftwerk to sound Kraftwerk (IMHO). So, if you like it, _PLEASE_ let me know. Oh, I almost forget.....it's ELECAFE.ZIP. Jouko Huhtala e-mail: JHUHTALA@ALPHA.HUT.FI -- ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 20 Nov 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #214 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 20 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 214 Today's Topics: How to become member of the mail-list? Kraftwerk Digest V1 #213 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 13:02:33 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: How to become member of the mail-list? To: kraftwerk Really-From: henrik-b@dsv.su.se Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 19:40:12 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #213 To: kraftwerk Really-From: jaze@echonyc.com (Jonathan Hayes) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hey! Where can I get that Kraftwerk Remix CD? I *need* to have "Tour de France" on CD... jaze@echonyc.com ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #215 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 21 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 215 Today's Topics: Tour de France (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 13:27:28 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour de France To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: jaze@echonyc.com (Jonathan Hayes) > > Hey! Where can I get that Kraftwerk Remix CD? I *need* to have "Tour de > France" on CD... > > jaze@echonyc.com Tour de France is not available on CD. Unless you can find the soundtrack to Breakdancing, the movie, Tour de France was on that soundtrack. I have never found it though. ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 15:38:50 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour de France To: kraftwerk Really-From: kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu (christopher zimmerman) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: DATman > > Really-From: jaze@echonyc.com (Jonathan Hayes) > > > > Hey! Where can I get that Kraftwerk Remix CD? I *need* to have "Tour de > > France" on CD... > Tour de France is not available on CD. You must have missed it when we were talking about "The Remix," the bootleg CD mentioned--what, two days ago? ;-) A DJ mix of "Tour de France" is amongst the many great tracks. > Unless you can find the soundtrack to Breakdancing, the movie, Tour de > France was on that soundtrack. I have never found it though. I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure the soundtrack to "Breakin'" is not on CD. Even if it is, I'm also pretty sure that "Tour de France" wasn't included (although it is in the movie, yep). Christopher Robin Zimmerman a regular at the Electric Cafe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 21:53:45 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour de France To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Sat, 20 Nov 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu (christopher zimmerman) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > Unless you can find the soundtrack to Breakdancing, the movie, Tour de > > France was on that soundtrack. I have never found it though. > > I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure the soundtrack to > "Breakin'" is not on CD. Even if it is, I'm also pretty sure that "Tour de > France" wasn't included (although it is in the movie, yep). > > Christopher Robin Zimmerman > a regular at the Electric Cafe Well doesn't that just beat it all. The German group who knows what they're doing gets stiffed and cut from the soundtrack, replaced by their neophyte American imitators and wanna-be's :-). Has KW ever played a Mix-styled version of this song? Gabe ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 04:00:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #216 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 22 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 216 Today's Topics: FORSALE: Kraftwerk Non-Stop FORSALE and more info on Non-Stop The Electric Cafe MOD (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 10:39 CDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: FORSALE: Kraftwerk Non-Stop To: kraftwerk Really-From: Chris Schumann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Just got it yesterday. Let's just say it's not to my liking. US$35 includes postage to USA (My cost $45) Email if interested. I also got Ultra Rare Trax (Kraftwerk). Excellent production on this one. Some really creative people worked on it. (It would be nice to have more credit notes.) chris schumann@macc.wisc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 20:36 CDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: FORSALE and more info on Non-Stop To: kraftwerk Really-From: Chris Schumann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Well, I looked in the discog at uwp and saw there was very little info about Non-Stop (a copy of which I am selling -- Email me if interested). So, here goes... Kraftwerk Non-Stop Mixing Records MX 7003 Made in Austria Some notes: Stockholm 1991 Collect e'm all (sic) Disc A 1. 1:41 Intro 2. 4:35 Numbers 3. 4:42 Computer World 4. 8:08 It's More Fun to Compute - Homecomputer Really is: Home Computer 5. 6:39 Computer Love a la The Mix 6. 12:08 The Model Really is: The Model and Tour de France 7. 11:34 Autobahn Disc B 1. 7:28 Radioactivity a la The Mix 2. 3:20 Trans Europe Express 3. 2:16 Abzug 4. 6:08 Metal on Metal 5. 11:20 The Robots a la The Mix 6. 11:17 Pocket Calculator a la The Mix 7. 15:45 Music Non Stop Got that Dave? chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 16:15:52 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: The Electric Cafe MOD To: kraftwerk Really-From: LERXT@delphi.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Guten Tag. Many thanks to the creator of the Electric Cafe MOD! It must have taken a lot of effort. I was hoping someone would develop something like this. Thanks! Yet, despite my joy, I cannot get it to work. Has anyone had any success or similar failure? I've tried all of my MOD programs and none of them can recognize the file. My KW-fan friends and I will be very excited when we get the thing to actually work. While we're on the subject, does anyone know of any great MOD sites? I love this little-known music medium. I plan to develop my own MODs soon. I'll have to upload them to Datta's FTP site. 'Tis a cool place, as I have recently discovered. And *finally*: has anyone found the KW cover compilation? No luck yet here in New York. If someone wouldn't mind repeating the label information... Until next time, -- Jeremy Goldberg : lerxt@delphi.com : ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 18:24:22 -0600 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: The Electric Cafe MOD To: kraftwerk Really-From: David Datta Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu In article <1993Nov21.211824.24795@cs.uwp.edu> you wrote: : had any success or similar failure? I've tried all of my MOD programs : and none of them can recognize the file. My KW-fan friends and I will be I played it with pmp, you can get it from ftp.uwp.edu in /pub/modplayers. : I love this little-known music medium. I plan to develop my own MODs soon. : I'll have to upload them to Datta's FTP site. 'Tis a cool place, as I have : recently discovered. Unfortunately, due to severe disk space problems, we cannot afford to become a MOD site right now.... (We have 2GIG for the archives and it has been filled, I have to trash non-music stuff and sounds right now...) ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 04:00:12 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #217 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 23 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 217 Today's Topics: Electric Cafe mix KRAFTWERK Reply Tour de France Tour De France on CD "N1 to Zurich" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 8:12:07 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Electric Cafe mix To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lars Nellemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi Thanks for the Electric Cafe mix - I've played it at it sounds really great. If you play it on a modplayer that is able to make sourround sound - and you have a sorround sound amp - it is really cool - kraftwerk quadrophonia. The samples are really great too - it is practically not to hear that this is not a DJ-only remix - but a computer generated KW-tune. There is a The Model mod file around too - it is not quite like the original - it have left some parts out - but the samples are very groovy, check that out too. A good source for mod files would be nic.funet.fi I think they are in the amiga path under sounds. Lars -- ***************************************** * Lars Nellemann * * University of Copenhagen * * Copenhagen, Denmark * * nelleman@biobase.aau.dk * * FAX: +45 3532 6120 * ***************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 01:28:05 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KRAFTWERK To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu These are just of the few things I have read lately and thought others would like to see and hear about them. > Christopher Robin Zimmerman > a regular at the Electric Cafe > writes: > > You must have missed it when we were talking about "The Remix," the bootleg > CD mentioned--what, two days ago? ;-) A DJ mix of "Tour de France" is amongst > the many great tracks. I guess that I did miss the discussion, however one of my bootlegs, Rimini, has Tour de France on it, quite good! > > Unless you can find the soundtrack to Breakdancing, the movie, Tour de > > France was on that soundtrack. I have never found it though. As I said, I have never seen the soundtack, thanks for the info! > I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure the soundtrack to > "Breakin'" is not on CD. Even if it is, I'm also pretty sure that "Tour de > France" wasn't included (although it is in the movie, yep). > Gabe writes: > Well doesn't that just beat it all. The German group who knows what > they're doing gets stiffed and cut from the soundtrack, replaced by their > neophyte American imitators and wanna-be's :-). > > Has KW ever played a Mix-styled version of this song? There are so many versions of this track, someday I will put all of them together on a DAT from the old vinyl, I can recall one promo dj 12" which has at least eight cuts on it, most were done by Kevorkian, there are others as well. > Christopher Robin Zimmerman > A regular at the Electric Cafe > writes again: > > So, on to the possibly informative part ;-) I'm not sure if this sample has > been documented or not, but the first few minutes of "Assassin (Chocolate > Hills of Bohol Mix)" is built on a loop of "Kling Klang" by Kraftwerk, from > their 1972 notoriously hard to find double album debut, so someone has some > classic good taste somewhere. > > This would be the mix that doesn't have that "Kometenmelodie 2" sample, by the > way, just in case anyone feels like correcting me about Kraftwerk and doesn't > know better. ;-) No need for correction, excellent ear for the KW though, I must say! > PS New Kraftwerk album rumoured to come out next week in Japan--don't you > believe it! (Well, that's what the Kraftwerk mailing list says...;-) ) No more word yet on this new album, but due out tomorrow in Japan! > Brian Hostetler > writes: > > > >< Actually, the "Trance Europe Express" title is a closer homage to > > >< Utah Saints' "Trance Europe Caress", which in turn, was an homage to > > >< Kraftwerk. > > >< Just a little extraneous interesting information. > > > > wow!!!!!! like i really care, this list does really suck.... > >I have to say one thing. Kraftwerk created what you listen to and what > >you all bullshit about so much. If you spent less time talking crap and > > > >yawn< Brian do not take offense to the list at KLF/Orb. These comments were made as a back of the hand thing on the most trafficked mail list I have ever seen, the KLF/Orb. BTW I have the new ORB-Evil Bro 39 in my possesion today! Note: Many of the above were cut from different mailling lists, but just goes to show that no matter what it, it all tends back to Ralf and Florian. In regards to the early KW, which has been discussed in detail, Kommentenmelodie II was available originally on Phillips not Vertigo. Good luck finding it though, for that matter the second one, the GREEN CONE! ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 11:01:13 GMT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Reply To: kraftwerk Really-From: al661815@risc1.gda.itesm.mx (Is ThErE sOmEtHiNg To Do?????) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 01:53 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour de France To: kraftwerk Really-From: alex@hal.rhein-main.de (Alexander Lehmann) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Gabriel Yedid > Has KW ever played a Mix-styled version of this song? > Gabe On the '91(?) tour Kraftwerk played a mixish version of Tour de France and (at least) The Model. The Model was on the Heute Abend bootleg, I'm not sure about TdF. bye, Alexander --- Alexander Lehmann, alex@hal.rhein-main.de | "On the Internet, or alexlehm@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | nobody knows you're a dog." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 8:55:24 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour De France on CD "N1 to Zurich" To: kraftwerk Really-From: eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (Eric J. Hansen) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu KWers, If you're really dying to hear Tour De France on CD, then see if you can find the KW bootleg CD "N1 to Zurich". Granted, it's a live version (live?!), but the CD is reputedly one of the better quality bootlegs (I can't speak firsthand, though, since it's the only KW BL I have). I bought it for about US $25 in Boston, MA. I can post a full track listing if there's interest - I think the concert date is September 1991, so it's just after the release of The Mix. Versions of the songs are, obviously, "The Mix" style as opposed to original. Eric *---------------------------------------------------------------------* | Eric J. Hansen .................... eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu | | Princeton Transportation Consulting Group, Inc. .... Burlington, MA | *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 24 Nov 93 04:00:11 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #218 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 24 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 218 Today's Topics: cafemix Elecafe Mix O ix MOD and on a Maconthis intosh Europe non-stop Tour de France and Style Updating Ultra Rare Tracks are a waste of money ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 93 00:12:25 PST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: cafemix To: kraftwerk Really-From: swatch@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Brian Plume) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi, I have a MAC, and I would like to hear this Elecafe.mix thingy. I tried the MOD players I have, and none would work. Is there anyone out there that can helpa MAC user listen to some Kraftwerk tunes?! hehehe Also, I have been checking my local record shops for the new Kraftwerk Album, and everyone just keeps looking at me like I'm a freak. (well, I am, but that's another story) Anyway, what is the TITLE of the CD again? and WHEN will it be released? I kept telling them November 23rd or 24th, and it is already the 23rd and NO ONE knows anything. (and these are record stores that are GREAT at getting import stuff.) Ok, well, have a nice Thanksgiving, everyone! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 16:27:57 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elecafe Mix O ix MOD and on a Maconthis intosh To: kraftwerk Really-From: LERXT@delphi.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu All right. I've got the MOD on my Mac., but I can't play it. Any sugg- gestions of cpoompatible MOD players? I'll try to emulate DMP, but I'd hope there's a suitable Mac application out there. Don't any of you other KW fans have Macs??!?Q!? PS - Thanks Special thanks to the author, who sent was kind enough to wsend help mesend me some direct help. Still can't play it, thoguhgugh! Robots Rule. -- Jeremy GOldbergoldberg lerxt@delphi.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 04:01:54 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Europe non-stop To: kraftwerk Really-From: Tina Marie LeMarier Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu It's topic drift time. I'm thinking about traveling to Europe in January, yah, UI know, crappy weather. I was planning on hitting The UK, Germany and maybe a fea others. Anyone have any advice or want to put up a very poor but very nice traveler? Shane King ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 19:41:02 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour de France and Style Updating To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Mon, 22 Nov 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: alex@hal.rhein-main.de (Alexander Lehmann) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > Really-From: Gabriel Yedid > > > Has KW ever played a Mix-styled version of this song? > > > Gabe > > > On the '91(?) tour Kraftwerk played a mixish version of Tour de France and (at > least) The Model. The Model was on the Heute Abend bootleg, I'm not sure about > TdF. > > bye, Alexander OK, this partially answers the next question I was going to post, one about, "Does KW regularly update the style of their songs at concerts?" I mean, when they would play "The Man-Machine" at a concert nowadays, would it still sound more or less like the original, or have they updated the songs to something more '90s (i.e., Mixish)? Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 22:08:50 -0600 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Ultra Rare Tracks are a waste of money To: kraftwerk Really-From: David Datta Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I strongly disagree with a previous posting on this list about the quality of the production on Ultra Rare tracks. SAVE YOUR MONEY. This CD could have been made by anyone who has the albums, a mixer and a cheap synth. The tracks are all BAD edited loops from the LP mixes smothered with various drum beats. Every time there is a bad edit loop, they add a little blip, bloop or fart to cover the noise. This is one of the absolute worst so-called re-mix disc I have ever heard. Compared to this disc, the Depeche Mode "On-U-Sound MegaMixes" sound like Trevor Horn or Alan Parsons produced them. It is a good thing I didn't eat before I listened to the CD or I would certainly have made a major mess. <<>> -Dave datta@cs.uwp.edu ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 25 Nov 93 04:00:11 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #219 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 25 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 219 Today's Topics: MOD? (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 16:12:16 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: MOD? To: kraftwerk Really-From: chris@schkol.sch.bme.hu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Sorry, but i missed the mail about the Electric Cafe MOD file. Can anyone tell me where can i get it? ..thanks.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 16:09:11 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: MOD? To: kraftwerk Really-From: d.a.davies@bham.ac.uk (David Davies) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Sorry, but i missed the mail about the Electric Cafe MOD file. >Can anyone tell me where can i get it? ..thanks.. Me too, the file in the Kraftwerk archive is not a .MOD file. Does anyone know if it can be converted to one? David Davies Department of Physiology, The Medical School, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT. UK. Tel No - +44-(0)-21-414-3255 Fax - +44-(0)-21-414-6924 Janet - D.A.Davies@uk.ac.bham Internet - D.A.Davies@bham.ac.uk WWW/URL - http://med152.bham.ac.uk/http/signatures/davies.html ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 26 Nov 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #220 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 26 Nov 93 Volume 1 : Issue 220 Today's Topics: Elecafe New CD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 16:01:18 +0200 (EET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elecafe To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jouko Antero Huhtala Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu HEY ! Sorry about that MOD-thing...The Elecafe is NOT a MOD-file....:( It is in s3m-format...because it allows to fine tune the sample's speed. This is a MUST to get all loops on beat. To listen that mix use DMP 2.72 which can be found at cs.uwp.edu. My experience is that many other s3m players play songs at wrong speed...and the result is TERRIBLE. And to all those who have Mac...I don't know anythig about Macs or mod/s3m/669-playing software on them....:( The file has been moved to ..../artists/k/kraftwerk/misc I hope this helps. Jokke E-mail jhuhtala@vipunen.hut.fi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 93 14:37:30 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu For you who hoped there would be a new release in Japan of new KW stuff, this message may be dissapointing. My friend Dolf contacted Ian from Aktivitaet about it last night, and he told the cd is a sampler with music from the Capitol era. He even seems to have it already. THis means we'll have to do with the Music Non Stop announcements on MTV for Xmas.... (Yet they are nice!) ________________________________________________________________________________ Hillebrand Boorsma = Boorsma@duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl = +31 15 782473 +31 15 615553 "I'm the antenna,catching vibrations;You're the transmitter,give information" ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 07:39:33 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #221 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 1 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 221 Today's Topics: Att. John Richey--What's your story on the new KW disc? digest request (2 msgs) Knew it was too good to be true KW and $ Test (2 msgs) Track list, anyone??? re New KW album (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 22:43:34 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Att. John Richey--What's your story on the new KW disc? To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu So are the people at Aktivitaet right? Is the KW disc released Japan another compilation (yes I know I have already mailed a rather pessimistic message about this), or is it actually a new album with new material? Figure the guy who first brought it to our attention should be asked. Do the two stories conflict? Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 93 21:45:53 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: digest request To: kraftwerk Really-From: knoxxb@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Please put me on the Digest Queue for the Kraftwerk forum, rather than the interactive. Thanks! --Knox Bronson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 00:17:26 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: digest request To: kraftwerk Really-From: subratab@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu From: subratab@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Please put me on the Digest Queue for the Kraftwerk forum, rather than the interactive. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 23:08:34 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Knew it was too good to be true To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Well, the title says it all. I knew KW had done their last two albums with WEA, so I thought it was a bit funny that the new album should be out on Capitol. So it's really no surprise the thing is just another compilation album. And not even with updated remixes! [Although if it comes out here in Canada, I will probably get it if Tour de France is on it.] I think we should all just give up, face facts, and admit that the studio days of KW (at least while the band is together) are over. I have a dream that when Ralf and Florian do retire, they will release a massive "lost years" collection. And as much as I might hate to, I also suggest we start taking a hard look at Elektric Music as the natural successors to KW. (With a quiet sniff sniff) Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 0:29:02 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW and $ To: kraftwerk Really-From: TAVARESAC@VAX.ETOWN.EDU Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Howdy, Does anyone know how many copies Kraftwerk sold from their albums? I was curious about that... I would guess The Man-Machine sold the most. Thanks in advance, Andre ------------------------------------------------------------------ I "Funk not only moves, I Andre' Tavares I I it removes..." I tavaresac@vax.etown.edu I I George Clinton I tavares@bluejay.etown.edu I I I tavares@cs.etown.edu I ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 13:22:56 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Test To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I have not been receiving any mail from these lists for almost a day. This is just a test to make sure the mail pathway is functioning properly. If it is not, the problem is at my site. Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 12:42:37 -0600 (CST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Test To: kraftwerk Really-From: Rick Fird Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: Gabriel Yedid > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > I have not been receiving any mail from these lists for almost a day. > This is just a test to make sure the mail pathway is functioning properly. > If it is not, the problem is at my site. > > Gabe > > > >I just got it, so i dont know if that means anything ta ya? Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 93 22:56:08 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Track list, anyone??? re New KW album To: kraftwerk Really-From: Eric Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Could someone post a track listing for the new album? If it is a compilation of past tracks, I will still be ecstatic provided it contains Tour De France! --Eric eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu ------------------------------------------------------ "Denying the pizza was just a moral victory..." (me) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 00:20:21 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Track list, anyone??? re New KW album To: kraftwerk Really-From: subratab@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu new album ? what's it called (and it's not one of the stupid Cleopatra compilations, is it ?).. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ******************************