Date: Sun, 1 May 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #312 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 1 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 312 Today's Topics: Con. report pointer/ W. Fluer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:53:01 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Con. report pointer/ W. Fluer To: kraftwerk Really-From: Bruce_M._Lloyd@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Kevin Busby says... >"[...] a debate session took place [...] After an enquiry about former >Kraftwerk member Wolfgang Flur, one fan actually produced and read aloud >a letter he'd received from Wolfgang the previous week, wishing the >convention well and detailing his current involvement with his new band >Jamo." I was beginning to wonder what had happened to the quietest member of Kraftwerk. Will Jamo be releasing anything soon? Have they already? Is Jamo a techno-oriented band like Kraftwerk or are they something else? I'll look for the magazine article... Long live Wolfgang! bruce_lloyd@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com bruce_lloyd@qmgate.corp.apple.com blloyd@bears.planet.com ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 2 May 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #313 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 2 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 313 Today's Topics: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 01:03:12 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: To: kraftwerk Really-From: salo Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hiya. Please sub me to the DIGEST version, k? cool ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 3 May 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #314 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 3 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 314 Today's Topics: unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 14:58:29 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: unsubscribe To: kraftwerk Really-From: SCALIGU1@ithaca.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Please unsubscribe scaligu1@ithaca.edu Thanks! ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 4 May 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #315 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 4 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 315 Today's Topics: digest format Organisation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 May 94 21:21:00 CST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: digest format To: kraftwerk Really-From: KYONG LEE Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Please change me to the digest format. *************************************************************************** Kyong I. Lee, Class of '95 Chicago-Kent College of Law klee@mail.kentlaw.edu Illinois Institute of Technology *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 03 May 94 08:57:58 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Organisation To: kraftwerk Really-From: Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I picked up Tone Float by Organisation about 8 years ago from a guy in the U.K, and was wondering if anyone knows the value of a copy in vg+ condition? I rarely hear about it or see copies for sale. Its a pretty far out predecessor to what KW were going to sound like with the KW1 and KW2 lp's, if anyone hasn't heard it. Has anyone seen this as a bootleg CD? ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 5 May 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #316 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 5 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 316 Today's Topics: digest format ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 15:24:16 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: digest format To: kraftwerk Really-From: SCALIGU1@ithaca.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu please unsubcribe scaligu1@ithaca.edu ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 6 May 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #317 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 6 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 317 Today's Topics: Elektric Music Concerts (2 msgs) subscription ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 May 94 11:59:07 MET DST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music Concerts To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lars Nellemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi All I'm going to Elektric Music concert on Saturday in Copenhagen - I believe they'll play Sweden Thursday and Friday - can we have a small review please. -- ***************************************** * Lars Nellemann * * University of Copenhagen * * Copenhagen, Denmark * * nelleman@biobase.aau.dk * * FAX: +45 3532 6120 * ***************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 94 14:21:39 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music Concerts To: kraftwerk Really-From: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Lars Nellemann wrote: >I'm going to Elektric Music concert on Saturday in Copenhagen - I >believe they'll play Sweden Thursday and Friday - can we have a small >review please. I'm going to see them tonight - bliss - I don't expect it to be as groundshaking as the kraftwerkconcerts were in 91 tho, but we'll see. I suppose I could post a short review tomorrow afternoon or so... Fredrik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 94 12:09:44 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: subscription To: kraftwerk Really-From: ricjoly@telegraph.com (Richard Joly) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Please send me the digest version please. And the discography, too! Richard Joly ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 7 May 94 04:00:14 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #318 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 7 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 318 Today's Topics: Con. report pointer/ W. Fluer digest format Kraftwerk Digest V1 #317 mute on the net Trans-Eslovenia-Express (4 msgs) Trans-slovenian express ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 May 94 14:47:35 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Con. report pointer/ W. Fluer To: kraftwerk Really-From: logicus1@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 13:41:33 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: digest format To: kraftwerk Really-From: DCANTRELL@wvsvax.wvnet.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu add to digest format ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 09:23:03 -0600 (MDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #317 To: kraftwerk Really-From: SATTERLEYPJ@mscd.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Are there any good videos of Kraftwerk from the last few years? If so I'm very interested! I have PAL, NTSC & SECAMM capabilities. Please E-mail me. Thanks, Phil (anon2120@nyx.cs.du.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 May 94 23:35:21 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: mute on the net To: kraftwerk Really-From: ricjoly@telegraph.com (Richard Joly) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I believe that MUTE is on the net, but I cant find their address, though I'm sure it's somewhere on my hard disk. Richard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 May 94 10:22:22 GMT-0600 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Trans-Eslovenia-Express To: kraftwerk Really-From: jpunaro@next-hgo.hgo.itesm.mx ( Jorge Punaro) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Does anybody knows if this tribute to Kraftwerk album is already out? I'm new on the list so I don't know if this has been disucused before, but "Trans-Slovenia-Express" is an album where some Slovenian bands plays Kraftwerk covers. It's (will be?) on Mute records with cat# Stumm131. Saludos Jorge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 17:29:25 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Trans-Eslovenia-Express To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: jpunaro@next-hgo.hgo.itesm.mx ( Jorge Punaro) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Does anybody knows if this tribute to Kraftwerk album is already out? > I'm new on the list so I don't know if this has been disucused > before, but "Trans-Slovenia-Express" is an album where some Slovenian > bands plays Kraftwerk covers. It's (will be?) on Mute records with > cat# Stumm131. The Mute Sampler 'Tonal Evidence 7' has a track from this album. It says on the sampler that the track is taken from the "forthcoming album 'Trans-Slovenian Express'". The album hasn't materialised in the UK yet - and none of the major record companies know of it's release date. I guess, it's time to call Mute. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 May 94 11:13:47 GMT-0600 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Trans-Eslovenia-Express To: kraftwerk Really-From: jpunaro@next-hgo.hgo.itesm.mx ( Jorge Punaro) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >The Mute Sampler 'Tonal Evidence 7' has a track from this album. It says on >the sampler that the track is taken from the "forthcoming album 'Trans-Slovenian >Express'". The album hasn't materialised in the UK yet - and none of the major >record companies know of it's release date. It's strange, I had read a review (a very positive review; 9/10) in the Q mag. from Dec. 93, looong time ago. >I guess, it's time to call Mute. I agree, though I didn't like too much the track on the Mute sampler... But it's a little hard to me to call Mute from Mexico :-) Saludos Jorge ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 94 1:40:42 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Trans-Eslovenia-Express To: kraftwerk Really-From: Sebastien Boisvert Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hey Rich! Geez are you on every list I am?! I wasn't surprised to see you on New Order's Ceremony list after seeing you on the PSB's Introspective but I never thought I'd see one of your messages in the Kraftwerk one! Ah well, when you have good taste in music, eh?... B. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 May 94 00:22:59 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Trans-slovenian express To: kraftwerk Really-From: subratab@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu If I'm correct, the driving force behind the compilation is Laibach, which means lots of hunters' horns and croaking vocals..continuing their tradition of gonzo covers: Opus, the Stones, the Beatles and now Kraftwerk ! ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 8 May 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #319 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 8 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 319 Today's Topics: minireview: E. Music live (4 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 07 May 94 15:15:19 cst From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: To: kraftwerk Really-From: ewa.belcher@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subscribe Ewa Belcher ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 May 94 14:54:43 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Thursday night I saw Elektric Music play live here in Stockholm. They played the following songs (I hope I remember it correctly): 1. [new song] 2. [new song] 3. [new song] 4. crosstalk 5. information 6. esperanto 7. [new song] 8. tv 9. overdrive 10. lifestyle + extras: 11. [new song] 12. [new song] The songs from the CD were rather boring I think, but the new songs were just _awesome_ (except for song no 7). I was quite startled when they started by playing three new songs in a row. Exciting, to say the least. Lothar Manteuffels vocals were quite embarrassing tho. Not too professional, you know. In Esperanto they even had his singing *sampled*. It was really great to see Karl Bartos jamming to the new songs, he looked just the way he does in all the kraftwerkvideos. The last two songs were *really* mindboggling. They were not finished, but were largely improvised. Sort of like the way Kraftwerk used to end their concerts by playing a very experimental version of It's more fun to compute. They even had some trouble to get song no 11 going, they had to restart. Great fun. The stage wasn't at all as exciting as the Kling Klang one; just some racks with samplers etc and some keyboards. I had to wait ten years to see Ralf & Florian and thirteen years to see Karl - I wonder how long I'll have to wait to see Wolfgang... Fredrik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 19:14:14 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: Henrik Brevenius Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >I had to wait ten years to see Ralf and Florian and thirteen years to se Karl - >I wonder how long I'll have to wait to see Wolfgang... You could always look for a black dressed harmonicaplayer in the german subwaysystem, it just might be him... I wont give a rewiev of Electric Music in Stockholm since Fredrik already has, but it would be nice to hear what you danish guys think. Henrik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 94 17:29:49 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: Sebastien Boisvert Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hey Fredrik, Is it Lothar Manteuffel singing on the album or Karl Bartos?! I always thought it was Bartos. Am I wrong? ... B. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 May 94 01:08:52 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: subratab@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Concerning Manteuffel, has anyone heard anything from his old band "Rheingold" ? I have an old 12" of Fan-fan-fanatic, but nothing more... ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 9 May 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #320 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 9 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 320 Today's Topics: add to digest format Elektric Music concert (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 May 94 17:03:00 CST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: add to digest format To: kraftwerk Really-From: KYONG LEE Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu add to digest format please *************************************************************************** Kyong I. Lee, Class of '95 Chicago-Kent College of Law klee@mail.kentlaw.edu Illinois Institute of Technology *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 94 9:30:53 MET DST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music concert To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lars Nellemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu HI Kraftwerkians I went to the Elektric music concert in Copenhagen - and the set was close to the one posted previously. 1. [new song] 2. [new song] 3. [new song] 4. crosstalk 5. information 6. esperanto 7. [new song] 8. tv 9. overdrive 10. lifestyle + extras: 11. [new song] 12. [new song] I think that song 1 might be called Aerospace that word did flicker along on the huge videoscreen - there was video all along the concert - mainly footage from the Swedish concerts and some clips from their videos. And they didn't play two extras in Copenhagen - only one. I was a bit dissappointed - I thought the sound was horribly - you couldn't hear Lothars singing on the new tracks - but it was perfect on the old - probably because it was on tape!!! - I think most of the Esperanto stuff were taped and the did a mere play-back!! Anyway nobody have mentioned the two support acts - I liked SPOCK a lot - because the had a show - and they had contact to the Audience - EM had absolutely no contact to the audience - they said Thank you once that's all. LFO was sooo boring - most of the audience went away when they played - they've seems to have changed their style to some kind of Orb-ripp off. Not exactly the rigth stuff to warm up to some fgast beating techno-pop. -- ***************************************** * Lars Nellemann * * University of Copenhagen * * Copenhagen, Denmark * * nelleman@biobase.aau.dk * * FAX: +45 3532 6120 * ***************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 10:36:32 +0100 (METDST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music concert To: kraftwerk Really-From: ballerup@diku.dk Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu kraftwerk mailing list writes: > >Really-From: Lars Nellemann >Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > >HI Kraftwerkians > >I went to the Elektric music concert in Copenhagen - and the set was close >to the one posted previously. Hey! - I was there too! [..set..] >I think that song 1 might be called Aerospace that word did flicker along on the >huge videoscreen - there was video all along the concert - mainly footage >from the Swedish concerts and some clips from their videos. And they didn't >play two extras in Copenhagen - only one. Yeah, I think it was because the audience was so tired from that middle act doing slow ambient at 11pm... > >I was a bit dissappointed - I thought the sound was horribly - you couldn't >hear Lothars singing on the new tracks - but it was perfect on the old - >probably because it was on tape!!! - I think most of the Esperanto stuff were >taped and the did a mere play-back!! Actually I was rather convinced that most was really live! - In particular those awsome new songs with *lots* of improvisation... >Anyway nobody have mentioned the two support acts - I liked SPOCK a lot - >because the had a show - and they had contact to the Audience - EM had >absolutely no contact to the audience - they said Thank you once that's all. SPOCK was fun! - They clearly enjoyed themselves while doing their totally unserious act! - One of my friends called a "Cartoon Band", fun but still in 2D... >LFO was sooo boring - most of the audience went away when they played - they've >seems to have changed their style to some kind of Orb-ripp off. Not exactly >the rigth stuff to warm up to some fgast beating techno-pop. Perhaps this was because it WASN'T LFO but a last-minute replacement band named LDC? - LFO cancelled due to illness and these oh-so-boring guys were called in to fill the gap... They did NOT do a very good job, and their perfermance was generally uninspired... Other sort-of famous persons that I met there: - Ralf Dorper with girlfriend (of Die Krupps & Propaganda) - Matrixa with girlfriend (drummer, Sloppy Wrenchbody) - All of Birmingham 6 (danish EBM band) - 1/2 of Cat Rapes Dog (the keyboard guy, swedish EBM band) - Jan Schmidt (head of Pingo Distribution) - Haakon (Owner of Energy Rekords, Lund) ...and perhaps more that I don't remember anymore... Oh well, it was fun nevertheless! - Per. -- | Per Gotterup | "The most merciful thing in the | | Student, DIKU (Dept. of Comp. Sci.) | world, I think, is the inability | | University of Copenhagen, Denmark | of the human mind to correlate all | | Internet: ballerup@diku.dk | its contents." - H.P. Lovecraft - | ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 10 May 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #321 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 10 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 321 Today's Topics: minireview: E. Music live (5 msgs) mute on the net videos? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 May 94 12:11:25 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Sebastien wrote: >Is it Lothar Manteuffel singing on the album or Karl >Bartos?! I always thought it was Bartos. Am I wrong? Uh, considering that Lothar was the only one singing live I would say it is probably he who is singing on the album, yes. Frankly I can't see any other reason for him to be on that album... After what I heard the other day I really wish he would leave the band tho. Fredrik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 94 20:31:24 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: Sebastien Boisvert Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >From: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist >reason for him to be on that album... After what I heard the other day I >really wish he would leave the band tho. Well thanx for the answer. It's weird, I really always thought it was Karl Bartos that was singing, because it sounded so Kraftwerkish. Then again, was Lothar THAT BAD???? *Sigh* B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 20:42:18 -500 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Mon, 9 May 1994, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > Sebastien wrote: > > >Is it Lothar Manteuffel singing on the album or Karl > >Bartos?! I always thought it was Bartos. Am I wrong? > > Uh, considering that Lothar was the only one singing live I would say it is > probably he who is singing on the album, yes. Frankly I can't see any other > reason for him to be on that album... After what I heard the other day I really > wish he would leave the band tho. > > > Fredrik Who was singing the lyrics to the "The Telephone Call"? I always thought it was Ralf, but when I heard the somewhat higher voice (same voice as TTC) on "TV" I began thinking of Karl...Ralf is much deeper and suaver. Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 10:10:38 +0900 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: yokoyama@sowa.is.uec.ac.jp (Tomoo Yokoyama) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 20:42:18 -500 (EDT) > From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) > > Who was singing the lyrics to the "The Telephone Call"? I always > thought it was Ralf, but when I heard the somewhat higher voice (same > voice as TTC) on "TV" I began thinking of Karl...Ralf is much deeper and > suaver. Pascal Bussy says in his book, "KRAFTWERK": The vocalist of "The Telephone Call" is Karl. --- Tomoo Yokoyama (E-mail: yokoyama@sowa.is.uec.ac.jp) Graduate School of Information Systems,The University of Electro-Communications ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 94 21:55:29 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: minireview: E. Music live To: kraftwerk Really-From: Sebastien Boisvert Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Who was singing the lyrics to the "The Telephone Call"? You are right, it sounds the same voice as on the Elektric Music album (T.V. is a very good example). That's why I thought Karl was the one singing in E.M. Maybe he was too busy working o the keyboards to sing LIVE actually... What do you think? B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 94 10:41:12 GMT-0600 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: mute on the net To: kraftwerk Really-From: jpunaro@next-hgo.hgo.itesm.mx ( Jorge Punaro) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >I believe that MUTE is on the net, but I cant find their address, though >I'm sure it's somewhere on my hard disk. >Richard Here are the adress, but both are taking too much time to send answers (and sometimes they don't respond). And since both are from USA offices, I'm pretty sure they will not know about the "Trans-Slovenia-Express", but we don't loose anything if we ask ;-) Mute NovaMute Saludos Jorge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 12:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: videos? To: kraftwerk Really-From: Thomas C Butcher Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu What KW videos are out there? Know where I can pick 'em up? Tom ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Butcher tb303+@cmu.edu Orbitrecords: legal mental stimulation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 11 May 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #322 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 11 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 322 Today's Topics: Elektric Music concert (2 msgs) is the list working? Kraftwerk best of video for sale (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 May 94 11:07:20 METDST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music concert To: kraftwerk Really-From: Niels Olof Bouvin Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: Lars Nellemann > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu [snip] > > 1. [new song] > 2. [new song] > 3. [new song] > 4. crosstalk > 5. information > 6. esperanto > 7. [new song] > 8. tv > 9. overdrive > 10. lifestyle > > + extras: > 11. [new song] > 12. [new song] > > I think that song 1 might be called Aerospace that word did flicker along on the > huge videoscreen - there was video all along the concert - mainly footage > from the Swedish concerts and some clips from their videos. And they didn't > play two extras in Copenhagen - only one. It is quite possible that the second song was called Automotive, as this word appear at the beginning of the song. One nice thing about the video shots was the reoccuring sun theme. Old drawings of the sun mixed with the E.M. logo, pictures of the rotating TV-maxi, and lots of other things. I agree on the S.P.O.C.K. band, they were quite funny (I especially enjoyed 'Never trust a Klingon (you will always regret it)'). SPOCK was a Swedish band, and LCD were a boring one (who obviously had a tape recorder playing quite a part of their music). Alas, there were no possiblity to buy t-shirts etc. I came wearing my Radioactivity t-shirt and had hoped to leave with a E.M. one, but no such luck. Regards Niels Olof --- Niels Olof Bouvin --- bouvin@daimi.aau.dk --- Phone +4586246937 GCS d---(++) p+ c++++@ l u+ e++ m*(++) s++/ !n h-- f+ g+++ w+ t-- r(--) y**(+) Home page: http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~bouvin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 May 94 11:07:20 METDST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music concert To: kraftwerk Really-From: Niels Olof Bouvin Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: Lars Nellemann > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu [snip] > > 1. [new song] > 2. [new song] > 3. [new song] > 4. crosstalk > 5. information > 6. esperanto > 7. [new song] > 8. tv > 9. overdrive > 10. lifestyle > > + extras: > 11. [new song] > 12. [new song] > > I think that song 1 might be called Aerospace that word did flicker along on the > huge videoscreen - there was video all along the concert - mainly footage > from the Swedish concerts and some clips from their videos. And they didn't > play two extras in Copenhagen - only one. It is quite possible that the second song was called Automotive, as this word appear at the beginning of the song. One nice thing about the video shots was the reoccuring sun theme. Old drawings of the sun mixed with the E.M. logo, pictures of the rotating TV-maxi, and lots of other things. I agree on the S.P.O.C.K. band, they were quite funny (I especially enjoyed 'Never trust a Klingon (you will always regret it)'). SPOCK was a Swedish band, and LCD were a boring one (who obviously had a tape recorder playing quite a part of their music). Alas, there were no possiblity to buy t-shirts etc. I came wearing my Radioactivity t-shirt and had hoped to leave with a E.M. one, but no such luck. Regards Niels Olof --- Niels Olof Bouvin --- bouvin@daimi.aau.dk --- Phone +4586246937 GCS d---(++) p+ c++++@ l u+ e++ m*(++) s++/ !n h-- f+ g+++ w+ t-- r(--) y**(+) Home page: http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~bouvin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 10:39:10 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: is the list working? To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello, I'm back to internet and I've sent a couple of subscription requests to the administrator: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu with no luck. As I'm not getting any mail from the list, I don't know if I'm subscribed but no mail is being sent to the list or what. Did anyone attend the Elektric Music concerts in Sweden??? Jose Garcia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 May 94 16:34:57 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk best of video for sale To: kraftwerk Really-From: jmrosen@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >From: Thomas C Butcher >What KW videos are out there? Know where I can pick 'em up? >Tom I have 3 copies of a kraftwerk compilation video for sale. It features the following: Truckstop Gondolero (beat club) The Model Video Pocket Caculator Music Nonstop The Telephone Call French TV profile 1991 E-mail me if you are interested. The price is $20.00 This includes all shipping and postage in the USA, add $3.00 more to ship outside USA. jmrosen@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 16:46:49 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk best of video for sale To: kraftwerk Really-From: Bruce_M._Lloyd@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >I have 3 copies of a kraftwerk compilation video for sale. >It features the following: > >Truckstop Gondolero (beat club) >The Model Video >Pocket Caculator >Music Nonstop >The Telephone Call >French TV profile 1991 > >E-mail me if you are interested. The price is $20.00 This includes all >shipping and postage in the USA, add $3.00 more to ship outside USA. > >jmrosen@aol.com I'll take it - how good is the quality of the video? Good, bad? bruce_lloyd@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com bruce_lloyd@qmgate.corp.apple.com ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 12 May 94 04:00:14 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #323 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 12 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 323 Today's Topics: Elektric Music concerts quotes, requests for subscriptions, etc (3 msgs) Trans-Slovenian Express (2 msgs) trans eslovenian express (2 msgs) videos ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:10:10 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music concerts To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Good to read about the EM concerts. I understand then all the stuff was played by Karl??? and Lothar did only sing??? Jose Garcia "Este es un programa de television espanola" -TV- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:19:27 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: quotes, requests for subscriptions, etc To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu No offence intended with this message. While reading the back issues of the digests, I've noticed * a lot * of messages about: please unsubscribe please send me the discography i want to get the digest ... There *is* an address for all the administrative things: subscription, unsubs, change of mode: KRAFTWERK-REQUEST@CS.UWP.EDU If you want files, you can get them via anonymous ftp from: ftp.uwp.edu At the prompt, type: cd music cd kraftwerk and see what files are there. There are the back issues of the digest, lyrics, discography, a few pics. About QUOTING previous messages: Please save time and space to all of us by just QUOTING short bits, not the whole message: Just enough to remind the topic. Well, just an opinion. Jose Garcia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 94 06:47:51 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: quotes, requests for subscriptions, etc To: kraftwerk Really-From: lmccarth@freya.cs.umass.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > I've noticed * a lot * of messages about: > > please unsubscribe > ... I agree that this phenomenon is rather annoying. Just look at _any_ message sent out on the list -- the software automatically adds the line "Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu" at the bottom of the header. If you read the list, *pay attention* and use the address mentioned ! If you want to tell someone new about the list, all you need to give them is the subscription address, not the list address -- once their subscription is added, they'll figure out the list address pretty quickly by receiving messages on the list ! > About QUOTING previous messages: Another good point -- we've all seen the previous message, so you don't need to re-include the whole thing every time you add something. Just do a little cutting with your editor, and only leave in the really relevant bits if you're directly responding to something somebody said. Thanks :) -Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 94 06:47:51 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: quotes, requests for subscriptions, etc To: kraftwerk Really-From: lmccarth@freya.cs.umass.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > I've noticed * a lot * of messages about: > > please unsubscribe > ... I agree that this phenomenon is rather annoying. Just look at _any_ message sent out on the list -- the software automatically adds the line "Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu" at the bottom of the header. If you read the list, *pay attention* and use the address mentioned ! If you want to tell someone new about the list, all you need to give them is the subscription address, not the list address -- once their subscription is added, they'll figure out the list address pretty quickly by receiving messages on the list ! > About QUOTING previous messages: Another good point -- we've all seen the previous message, so you don't need to re-include the whole thing every time you add something. Just do a little cutting with your editor, and only leave in the really relevant bits if you're directly responding to something somebody said. Thanks :) -Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 11:42:38 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Trans-Slovenian Express To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu OK, I've just been on the phone to someone at Mute about the release of this album. The album has *not* got a release date yet. The person explained to me that the album *will* be released. I asked why it wasn't released yet, and the person said that he wasn't allowed to say. He did stress that it will be released. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 11:42:38 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Trans-Slovenian Express To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu OK, I've just been on the phone to someone at Mute about the release of this album. The album has *not* got a release date yet. The person explained to me that the album *will* be released. I asked why it wasn't released yet, and the person said that he wasn't allowed to say. He did stress that it will be released. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:32:27 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: trans eslovenian express To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: jpunaro@next-hgo.hgo.itesm.mx ( Jorge Punaro) > > Does anybody knows if this tribute to Kraftwerk album is already out? The cd was reviewed by some music mags in UK but as far as I know the cd was never released. There were some legal problems. Maybe KW didn't give permission? The reviews came from promotional copies. Jose Garcia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:32:27 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: trans eslovenian express To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: jpunaro@next-hgo.hgo.itesm.mx ( Jorge Punaro) > > Does anybody knows if this tribute to Kraftwerk album is already out? The cd was reviewed by some music mags in UK but as far as I know the cd was never released. There were some legal problems. Maybe KW didn't give permission? The reviews came from promotional copies. Jose Garcia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:07:32 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: videos To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I've been reading the latests back issues of the digest and someone asked about videos. No official KW videos exist, as far as I know. They only appear on the Stop Sellafield video: avoid, it's crap. You'll be very disappointed if you buy it just because there's KW. You won't see much of them! Jose Garcia - "La musica ideas portara y siempre continuara. Sonido electronico, decibel sintetico" ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 13 May 94 04:00:12 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #324 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 13 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 324 Today's Topics: Jose Garcia's ignorance/ This video is GREAT! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 May 94 18:05:36 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Jose Garcia's ignorance/ This video is GREAT! To: kraftwerk Really-From: JMRosen@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >I've been reading the latests back issues of the digest and someone asked >about videos. >No official KW videos exist, as far as I know. They only appear on the >Stop Sellafield video: avoid, it's crap. You'll be very disappointed if >you buy it just because there's KW. You won't see much of them! >Jose Garcia As the person selling the Kraftwerk video's, I would like to respond Jose Garcia's ignorance There are at least 7 Warner brothers videos that were shot for the Warner Brothers kraftwerk albums. A couple were NEVER released. The others were broadcast in the 1980's on TV. There have also been many other specials on TV from France, Germany, England etc... Although no official pre recorded video exists, or at least one you can buy in a music store. This compilation tape was compiled over the last 12 years from the above mentioned sources. I do not know who the hell, or what the hell "Stop Sellafield video" is! or, for that matter, why you even bring it up! If you read back a few days, you would see that the video I am selling contains the following: ALL KRAFTWERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Truckstop Gondolero (beat club) >The Model Video >Pocket Caculator >Music Nonstop >The Telephone Call >French TV profile 1991 I have received a few replies on the video, and will respond to them tonight or tomorrow. I will answer ALL, please be patient : ) Regards to all on the Kraftwerk list! joel jmrosen@aol.com ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 14 May 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #325 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 14 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 325 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #324 videos ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 07:44:59 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #324 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jonathan Hayes Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu One of my favourite videos of all time is the KW video for Tour de France. Is the video compilation in stereo? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 13:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: videos To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard Karty Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I'm sure by now Jose has clarified that he must have meant 'officially, released, commercially available for purchase by consumers' videos. And a person can define "bootleg" any way they please, but *IMHO* it includes home-made copies for sale at a profit. Which I'm *sure* is illegal and I *suppose* I'd feel hesitant about if I were the maintainer of this list. Especially considering some hacker is currently being sued to h*ll and back for copyright infringement via a newsgroup. Just a thought... R. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 15 May 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #326 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 15 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 326 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #319 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 May 94 17:26:49 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #319 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Andreas Elin Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 17 May 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #327 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 17 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 327 Today's Topics: 10 kw dates in Europe??? subscribe (2 msgs) The Nits (Dutch Band) & KW (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:22:17 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: 10 kw dates in Europe??? To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I've been told about the possibility of kw doing 10 dates in Europe in the coming months. Aparently this info comes from a reliable source. If it's true, does this imply the release of (long awaited) new produkt??? Let's hope so! Jose Garcia pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 15:54:34 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: subscribe To: kraftwerk Really-From: Sebastien.Boisvert@f156.n514.z17.mtlnet.org (Sebastien Boisvert) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subscribe, standard format please (not digest) and unsubscrive e266071@er.uqam.ca because this adress is no longer available (my old university account!). Thanx. B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 19:16:17 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: subscribe To: kraftwerk Really-From: lmccarth@freya.cs.umass.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >From kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Mon May 16 18:39:50 1994 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA19166 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 16 May 1994 17:31:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199405162231.AA19166@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from Lightning.McRCIM.McGill.EDU by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA19035 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 17:29:48 -0500 Received: from Chart.McRCIM.McGill.EDU by Lightning.McRCIM.McGill.EDU (8.6.4) with ESMTP id <199405162229.SAA29690@Lightning.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:29:37 -0400 Received: from mtlnet.UUCP by Chart.McRCIM.McGill.EDU with UUCP (8.6.4//ident-1.0) id SAA06603; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:29:38 -0400 Received: by illusion.mtlnet.org (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Mon, 16 May 94 15:59:20 EDT for kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Received: by mtlnet.org id AA05040; Mon, 16 May 1994 15:52:53 -0500 From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) Sender: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Errors-To: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu X-Old-Reply-To: sebastien.boisvert@uworld.mtlnet.org Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 15:54:34 -0500 Subject: subscribe X-Gateway: Matrix Technology 'Lectronic Network (mtlnet.org) Gateway Status: RO Really-From: Sebastien.Boisvert@f156.n514.z17.mtlnet.org (Sebastien Boisvert) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subscribe, standard format please (not digest) and unsubscrive e266071@er.uqam.ca because this adress is no longer available (my old university account!). Thanx. B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 13:49:13 METDST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: The Nits (Dutch Band) & KW To: kraftwerk Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Just a small fact of life: My roommate went last thursday to a concert of the Dutch band 'The Nits'. About ten years ago they were rather experimental/electronic, now they are more mainstream. But: Their keyboardplayer Robert Jan Stips jammed his WaveFrame synth, and the comment of singer Henk Hofstede was: Well, that sounds like KW ! An improvised version of The Model started. I'm sad I missed that concert now. Anyway, the concert hall was wondering why my friends at row 4 roared with laughter when they heared this... They just thought of my KW crazyness. Sad though, that KW is a historic cult band now, without any new directions... _______________________________________________________________________________ Hillebrand Boorsma=Boorsma@duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl=+31 15782473 +31 15615553 "I'm the antenna,catching vibrations;You're the transmitter,give information" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 94 13:49:13 METDST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: The Nits (Dutch Band) & KW To: kraftwerk Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Just a small fact of life: My roommate went last thursday to a concert of the Dutch band 'The Nits'. About ten years ago they were rather experimental/electronic, now they are more mainstream. But: Their keyboardplayer Robert Jan Stips jammed his WaveFrame synth, and the comment of singer Henk Hofstede was: Well, that sounds like KW ! An improvised version of The Model started. I'm sad I missed that concert now. Anyway, the concert hall was wondering why my friends at row 4 roared with laughter when they heared this... They just thought of my KW crazyness. Sad though, that KW is a historic cult band now, without any new directions... _______________________________________________________________________________ Hillebrand Boorsma=Boorsma@duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl=+31 15782473 +31 15615553 "I'm the antenna,catching vibrations;You're the transmitter,give information" ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 18 May 94 04:00:14 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #328 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 18 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 328 Today's Topics: Bootlegging (3 msgs) KW digest 325 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 18:14:35 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Bootlegging To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu * Not much KW content in this message - please send replies to me personally * > And I can't see considering this 'hacking' or copywrite infringement'. > I can hardly imagine Ralf und Florian getting off their bums to sue someone, > since they put out 1 LP every 10 years!!! > > When I get my stuff out of storage, I'll be offering the same thing, live KW > audio tapes from 1971 and Tone Float by Organisation as well, and I dare an sI > can't consider it bootlegging. If I ask for 10 bucks it covers postage and a > high grade tape. I am not the moderator of the list either, but I do consider the service that you are offering as illegal, and *could* put the list at risk. Copying copyrighted material is still illegal no matter whether it was released yesterday, or thirty years ago. Tone Float was released by RCA, the first three KW were released by Philips, and any subsequent KW material has been released on Kling-Klang through major labels like EMI and Warner. Basically if anyone associated with these (very major) record companies read these lists and discover what you are doing, then you will be sued and put the list in a lot of trouble. I understand that a BBS got into a lot of trouble after someone there in a Depeche Mode-related discussion offered to make copies of DMs SOFAD months before release. Sire and Mute were not very happy when they discovered that one. Yes, the situation is slightly different, but it is the same sort of service you are offering. I don't really know how Ralf & Florian would react, but considering that they keep saying that they will release their earlier material "someday", they won't be very happy with what you are doing. It is worth knowing that Ralf & Florian *do* sue people who sample their work, if it worth their while. As they would probably get more out of you than out of the KLF, they may well take you to court. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 14:28:01 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Bootlegging To: kraftwerk Really-From: SCRAIN@antioc.antioch.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu One note. Copyrights DO EXPIRE after a period of time. I personally don't know how long, but they do expire. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 94 00:22:00 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Bootlegging To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I think that we can safely assume that KW's copyright will last well into the 21st century. Sorry to burst any bubbles. Re bootlegs..perhaps it's sufficient to simply say that anyone who wants to trade in such goods do so in private and not on the board ? Will this end the topic so we can find out more ABOUT THE IMPENDING KW TOUR (hopefully !) :) ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 94 10:41:24 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW digest 325 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu In KW digest 325, from >Richard Karty RK>And a person can define "bootleg" any way they please, but *IMHO* it includes home-made copies for sale at a profit. Which I'm *sure* is illegal and I *suppose* I'd feel hesitant about if I were the maintainer of this list. Especially considering some hacker is currently being sued to h*ll and back for copyright infringement via a newsgroup. Just a thought... ------------ Hey Richard, chill dude. The guy was asking 20 measly bucks for 60- 90 min of video, on a new tape, using his time and 2 vcr's to duplicate. I can't see too much profit being made from this, just an offer to feed our hungry KW appetites. Don't get too anal about 'bootlegging', just because in the u.s.a the record industry gripes every week about 'losing' profits. And I can't see considering this 'hacking' or copywrite infringement'. I can hardly imagine Ralf und Florian getting off their bums to sue someone, since they put out 1 LP every 10 years!!! When I get my stuff out of storage, I'll be offering the same thing, live KW audio tapes from 1971 and Tone Float by Organisation as well, and I dare an sI can't consider it bootlegging. If I ask for 10 bucks it covers postage and a high grade tape. FREEDOM OF INFORMATION FOR ALL. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 19 May 94 08:00:19 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #329 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 19 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 329 Today's Topics: Autobahn album Esparanto (3 msgs) Hey Rich, Whatta ya smokin'? UNSUBSCRIBE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 13:47:25 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Autobahn album To: kraftwerk Really-From: A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl (Aart-Jan van Amerongen) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello Kraftwerkians, I am not very much into the collector's item business, but I came across something potentially special. I obtained a version of Autobahn (Philips 6305 231 D) with as a special feature a Autobahn sticker glued onto it. The sticker shows the international highway symbol with as title Kraftwerk Autobahn and as subtitle the catalogue number. Who could tell me if I have found something special here (or could help me out of my dream? Don't shoot me if I make fuss about a standard feature of this album, since I am not familiar with the LP record version of Autobahn. Thanx Regards, Aart-Jan van Amerongen (A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 13:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esparanto To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jonathan Komar Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu It's comming!!!!! Esparanto is due to be released in America on Atlantic records on June 7!!!! Unfortunately, this is too late for me (about 6 months late to approximate) because I've already gone to the trouble of finding the import album. Hopefully with this American release Atlantic records might release some of the singles domestically as well. Maybe even the Lifestyle CD single that I've had such a hard time trying to find. Who knows, there might even be a U.S. tour? That would make my millenium. Jonathan eapu138@orion.oac.uci.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 15:17:44 -700 (PDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esparanto To: kraftwerk Really-From: Aaron Grier Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Wed, 18 May 1994, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Jonathan Komar > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Who knows, there might even be a U.S. tour? That would make my millenium. This would definitely be big fun for me! (I hope I hope I hope!) The Finn / VLA tfinn@cts.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 94 23:00:12 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esparanto To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Although, having gotten the "Lifestyle" single, it's pretty naff...the "Television" single wasn't much either...sigh... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 May 94 00:01:55 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Hey Rich, Whatta ya smokin'? To: kraftwerk Really-From: JMRosen@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 18:14:35 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Bootlegging To: kraftwerk >* Not much KW content in this message - please send replies to me personally * ( sorry every one should see this Bull-Shit! ) >> And I can't see considering this 'hacking' or copywrite infringement'. >> I can hardly imagine Ralf und Florian getting off their bums to sue >>someone, >> since they put out 1 LP every 10 years!!! >> >> When I get my stuff out of storage, I'll be offering the same thing, live >>KW > >audio tapes from 1971 and Tone Float by Organisation as well, and I dare an sI >> can't consider it bootlegging. If I ask for 10 bucks it covers postage and >>a high grade tape. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk)*Replied* >I am not the moderator of the list either, but I do consider the service >that >you are offering as illegal, and *could* put the list at risk. > >LCopying copyrighted material is still illegal no matter whether it was >released >yesterday, or thirty years ago. Tone Float was released by RCA, the first >three KW were released by Philips, and any subsequent KW material has >been >released on Kling-Klang through major labels like EMI and Warner. >Basically if >anyone associated with these (very major) record companies read these >lists and >discover what you are doing, then you will be sued and put the list in a lot >of >trouble. I understand that a BBS got into a lot of trouble after someone there in a >Depeche Mode-related discussion offered to make copies of DMs SOFAD >months >before release. Sire and Mute were not very happy when they discovered >that >>one. Yes, the situation is slightly different, but it is the same sort of >service you are offering. > >I don't really know how Ralf & Florian would react, but considering that >they >keep saying that they will release their earlier material "someday", they >won't >be very happy with what you are doing. >It is worth knowing that Ralf & Florian *do* sue people who sample their >work, >if it worth their while. As they would probably get more out of you than >out >of the KLF, they may well take you to court. >Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) Richard, That is most rubbish that I have seen in one place in cyberspace in a loooooong looooooong time. Please, whatever it is your smokin', pass it over here! I know HUNDREDS (out of the hundreds of thousands) of people who sell, trade, or exchange rare or live audio and video recordings. There aint a dam thing the record companies want to, or can do about it. Now as far as Depesh Mode, I can see them taking action if it has not even hit the street or if someone is "bootleging" a legitimate CD. At least if it has been in print any time in the last few years. Needless to say Tone Float would NOT fall in this catagory. If there was _ANY_ amount of money to be made from these recordings, you can bet they (the record companies) would have it out there for all to buy. If you sample and use someones music WITHOUT permission, then expect to be sued. DO NOT confuse pirating a legitimate CD, or sampling without permission, with the trading or selling of rare out of print, or live collectable recordings on CD, cassette, vinalor of video. Record companies DO NOT LOOSE A FRIGGIN PENNY on this type of "collectable" audio and video as they can't loose money on what they DON'T have, or don't even sell to begin with! In closing I would suggest you take a "chill-pill" ;- ) jmrosen@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 15:47:29 GMT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: kraftwerk Really-From: RAYMOND.MEDEIROS@ccol.org (RAYMOND MEDEIROS) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu UNSUBSCRIBE ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 20 May 94 04:00:14 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #330 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 20 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 330 Today's Topics: Autobahn album Esperanto being released in the USA KW tour & new release (?) (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 10:55:36 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Autobahn album To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl (Aart-Jan van Amerongen) > I obtained a version of Autobahn (Philips > 6305 231 D) with as a special feature a Autobahn sticker glued onto it. The version you have with the sticker is, I'd say, not very easy to find. The sticker is a nice extra. I also have a copy with the sticker. By the way, if there are any collectors on the list (I am one) we could compile a list of releases that have appeared sometime with a sticker. I have some... Jose Garcia pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 May 94 10:29:55 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esperanto being released in the USA To: kraftwerk Really-From: richard@dgbt.doc.ca (Richard Paiement) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Who knows, there might even be a U.S. tour? That would make my millenium. Sorry to disillusion you all, but Esperanto has been available on CD as a domestic release in Canada since last fall (I bought my copy around October) and they haven't toured Canada. That the CD is finally being released in the USA is more likely due to someone waking up at the record distributor rather than to some USA tour plan. I have to agree though that such a tour would be welcomed, KW last came around here in 1984 (I know they played Montreal), but I only found out about it when reading the concert review the next week. Richard Paiement ac925@freenet.carleton.ca Ottawa/Hull Canada ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 May 94 15:27:18 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW tour & new release (?) To: kraftwerk Really-From: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Ok, so I heard this from a guy in a local recordshop (he's usually quite reliable (but it's KW we're talking about, so don't hope to much)). According to him a new record (with new material) will be released prior to a (European?) tour. The record will be named "Voulez-vous". A few months ago someone (Japanese?) mentioned here on the list that this record would be released in Japan in April (postphoned?) Another source here on this list later told us that KW was going to perform during some kind of happening at Lydd Airport, Lydd, UK on April 30th. Does anyone have more info on this???? /Jorgen Borjesson Music is organized noise Ralf Hutter E-mail: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:44:10 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW tour & new release (?) To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Another source here on this list later told us that KW > was going to perform during some kind of happening at > Lydd Airport, Lydd, UK on April 30th. Does anyone have > more info on this???? The event got postponed as the local council didn't give it a license. It is rumoured that the concert will now happen in London during this summer. Whether Kraftwerk will still be present, has yet to be seen. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 21 May 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #331 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 21 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 331 Today's Topics: bottleging Esparanto Esperanto being released in the USA Esperanto CD KW tour & new release (?) (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 11:44:31 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: bottleging To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: JMRosen@aol.com > I know HUNDREDS (out of the hundreds of thousands) of people who sell, trade, > or exchange rare or live audio and video recordings. There aint a dam thing > the record companies want to, or can do about it. A record dealer in Sweden had to quit making sample tapes of very old German LPs, not available for years. He was putting his business on risk. > Now as far as Depesh Mode, > I can see them taking action if it has not even hit the street or if someone > is "bootleging" a legitimate CD. At least if it has been in print any time in > the last few years. Needless to say Tone Float would NOT fall in this > catagory. > > If there was _ANY_ amount of money to be made from these recordings, > you can bet they (the record companies) would have it out there for all to > buy. Not true in this case. Mute records approached the KW guys for a release of Ralf & Florian, without success. > If you sample and use someones music WITHOUT permission, then > expect to be sued. DO NOT confuse pirating a legitimate CD, or sampling > without permission, with the trading or selling of rare out of print, or live > collectable recordings on CD, cassette, vinalor of video. Tone Float, KW 1, KW 2 and Ralf & Florian are all legitimate releases. > Record companies DO NOT LOOSE A FRIGGIN PENNY on this type of "collectable" > audio and video as they can't loose money on what they DON'T have, or don't > even sell to begin with! They don't sell it because they don't have the rigth to. KW have all the rigths of their albums. If they released these 4 LPs on CD, many people would buy them, I'm sure. Jose Garcia pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 11:33:31 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esparanto To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Jonathan Komar > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Esparanto is due to be released in America on Atlantic records on June 7!!!! > Who knows, there might even be a U.S. tour? That would make my millenium. Elektric Music will still do more shows in Scandinavia. They have no plans for concerts on the rest of Europe even. Jose Garcia pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 11:52:57 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esperanto being released in the USA To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: richard@dgbt.doc.ca (Richard Paiement) > I have to agree though > that such a tour would be welcomed, KW last came around here in 1984 > (I know they played Montreal), but I only found out about it when reading > the concert review the next week. Is it true, Richard??? Please post more info about this concert in 1984. I think nobody knows about any KW concerts between the Computer World tour and the Mix tour!!! Jose Garcia pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 09:16:53 -0500 (CDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esperanto CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: "C. David Holloway" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I have seen this Album mentioned a few times on here; but I still don't know that much about it. Could someone tell me if this is a live album or a regular album (ie Electric Cafe, The Mix, etc). Anyone have a track listing? Also, when this CD would be released here in the US. Thanks. Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ...or you can call him Dave the Rave. ...or you can even call him Technodave. ...but don't call him discodave!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 11:50:02 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW tour & new release (?) To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se > According to him a new record (with new material) > will be released prior to a (European?) tour. The > record will be named "Voulez-vous". This can just be a rumour. The only thing is that there are (reliable) rumours of a 10 dates European tour. > A few months ago someone (Japanese?) mentioned here > on the list that this record would be released in > Japan in April (postphoned?) The album to be released in Japan is yet another compilation album I think. The only hope is it can contain the original version of Dentaku. Jose Garcia pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 19:17:05 +0900 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW tour & new release (?) To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Neuromantic" Manu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) > > > A few months ago someone (Japanese?) mentioned here > > on the list that this record would be released in > > Japan in April (postphoned?) > > The album to be released in Japan is yet another compilation album I think. No, no, no! I have a reservation for Toshiba EMI TOCP-7914 (New album). ^^^^^^^^^ But it was postponed and the release day is not deceided. > The only hope is it can contain the original version of Dentaku. That album's title is "The best of Kraftwerk" (Toshiba EMI TOCP-7913). ^^^^^^^^^ ------ STEREO CAFE No.100010 Hidetaka MASUDA E-mail: masuda@e.dendai.ac.jp Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 13:13:15 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW tour & new release (?) To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: "Neuromantic" Manu > > The album to be released in Japan is yet another compilation album I think. > > No, no, no! I have a reservation for Toshiba EMI TOCP-7914 (New album). > ^^^^^^^^^ > But it was postponed and the release day is not deceided. Well, I meant that TOCP-7914 is going to be yet another compilation. I hope I am wrong. Keep us informed! Jose Garcia "Computer aktivity is in the net for you and me" pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 22 May 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #332 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 22 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 332 Today's Topics: All Kraftwerk releases ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 19:52:26 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: All Kraftwerk releases To: kraftwerk Really-From: jlara@world.std.com (John A Lara) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Is there a list available anywhere of all the Kraftwerk albums, CDs, and singles? I want to figure out if I have *ABSOLUTLY* everything KW has published! Thanks! jl John Lara INTERNET: jlara@world.std.com COMPUSERVE: >INTERNET:jlara@world.std.com ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 23 May 94 04:00:11 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #333 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 23 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 333 Today's Topics: All Kraftwerk releases ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 May 94 22:24:41 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: All Kraftwerk releases To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu The Bussy book has a fairly detailed discography for U.S. and European releases, and I understand that there is a Kraftwerk discography available thru FTP, though I don't know exactly what it's called. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 24 May 94 04:00:12 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #334 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 24 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 334 Today's Topics: All Kraftwerk releases Dorian Grey hmmm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 May 1994 08:47:23 +0000 (U) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: All Kraftwerk releases To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Anyone know where the Kraftwerk Discography's FTP site may be? I would also like to have EVERYTHING that Kraftwerk has done! Lon Freeman freeman@msmail.bms.com _______________________________________________________________________________ To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu From: kraftwerk mailing list on Sun, May 22, 1994 10:47 PM Subject: Re: All Kraftwerk releases RFC Header:Received: by msmail.bms.com with SMTP;22 May 1994 22:47:14 U Received: from cs.uwp.edu by cliff.bms.com (PMDF #2529 ) id <01HCNN3CLCYO004SXU@cliff.bms.com>; Sun, 22 May 1994 22:43:21 EST Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA05324 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sun, 22 May 1994 21:24:47 -0500 Received: from mail02.prod.aol.net by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA05311 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 22 May 1994 21:24:43 -0500 Received: by mail02.prod.aol.net (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA11982; Sun, 22 May 1994 22:24:44 -0400 Date: 22 May 1994 22:24:41 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Re: All Kraftwerk releases Sender: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Errors-to: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Message-id: <199405230224.AA05324@cs.uwp.edu> X-Envelope-to: freeman#m#_lon_c#d#.sis_server@msmail.bms.com Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: America Online Mailer X-Old-Sender: "SubrataB" Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu The Bussy book has a fairly detailed discography for U.S. and European releases, and I understand that there is a Kraftwerk discography available thru FTP, though I don't know exactly what it's called. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 94 10:29:14 METDST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Dorian Grey To: kraftwerk Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi there (especially Jose), Due to lack of KW events, me and 3 friends created our own KW tour last weekend. We took the autobahn to Duesseldorf, then to Frankfurt and watched the TEE at the central station. Then we took a look at the buildings of the Deutsche Bank. At the post museum, we made a telephone call. Finally, we went to the airport to dance at the Dorian Grey. Great techno over there. Heard some familiar samples. And the german Models we spotted there were certainly looking good. Went back home on the autobahn...autobahn...autobahn... _______________________________________________________________________________ Hillebrand Boorsma=Boorsma@duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl=+31 15782473 +31 15615553 "I'm the antenna,catching vibrations;You're the transmitter,give information" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 10:31:23 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: hmmm To: kraftwerk Really-From: Arg0n Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 25 May 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #335 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 25 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 335 Today's Topics: All Kraftwerk releases (3 msgs) Discog Dorian Grey Esperanto CD Kraftwerk Digest V1 #331 KW discography KW discography, lyrics, pics ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 11:11:58 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: All Kraftwerk releases To: kraftwerk Really-From: A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl (Aart-Jan van Amerongen) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." >Anyone know where the Kraftwerk Discography's FTP site may be? I would figure that CS.UWP.EDU is _the_ FTP site for the Kraftwerk Discography. Aart-Jan (A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 12:06:46 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: All Kraftwerk releases To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard Ingram Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl (Aart-Jan van Amerongen) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > >Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." > >Anyone know where the Kraftwerk Discography's FTP site may be? > > I would figure that CS.UWP.EDU is _the_ FTP site for the Kraftwerk Discography. > > Aart-Jan (A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl) Yep it certainly is, some good images as well for backdrops on the X terminal, favourite is numbers ! Log in as anonymous and follow the on screen instructions, I think the kraftwerk stuff is in pub/music/....../..... can't remember the res :-) If you have any probs e-mail me and I can mail you a copy of the discog. Bye, Rich. PS if anyone does e-mail me I will be away for the next week ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 94 13:38:58 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: All Kraftwerk releases To: kraftwerk Really-From: adkoning@hvsag01.att.com (Andre A M De Koning +31 35 87 4927) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu The Discography should be available using anonymous FTP ftp.uwp.edu (look in the /pub/music/discog directory). Without the singles, here's what the 'Short Discography' looks like (sorry, I don't have the most recent version). I have also deleted the bootlegs to be legally safe ;-) 1970 Tonefloat Album 1971 Highrail Album 1972 Var Album 1972 Kraftwerk Collection 1972 Kraftwerk 2 Album 1972 Kraftwerk Double Reissue 1973 Suck it and See Compilation 1973 Ralf & Florian Album 1974 Autobahn Album 1974 Doppelalbum Collection 1974 Exceller 8 Collection 1975 Radio-Activity (English) Album 1975 Radio-activitaet (Deutsch) Album 1975 Radioactividad (Spanish) Album 1977 Trans Europa Express (Deutsch) Album 1977 Trans Europe Express (English) Album 1978 Die Mensch Maschine (Deutsch) Album 1978 The Man Machine (English) Album 1981 Computer World (English) Album 1981 Computerwelt (Deutsch) Album 1981 Electro Kinetic ("Reflections") Album 1986 Electric Cafe (Deutsch) Album 1986 Electric Cafe (English) Album 1986 Electric Cafe (Spanish) Album 1991 Jun The Mix Album 1991 Jun The Mix (Deutsch) Album 1992 The Model Retrospective 1975 - 1978 Compilation 1993 May Elektric Music: Esperanto Album ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 94 13:26 +0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Discog To: kraftwerk Really-From: yook@glas.apc.org (Sergey Ukladov) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Correct me if I'm wrong , but I think that discography is available thru FTP on cs.uwp.edu in /pub/music/artists/k/kraftwerk/discog . No ? Sergey Ukladov ( yook@glas.apc.org ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:03:15 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Dorian Grey To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma > Due to lack of KW events, me and 3 friends created our own KW tour last > weekend... I might consider joining your KW tour ;-) Hopefully, KW will do a European tour, will release a 2LP / 1CD with new stuff, and also a video of their tour ;-) If only it was true... Jose Garcia "Computer activity is in the net for you and me" pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:13:21 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esperanto CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: "C. David Holloway" > I have seen this Album mentioned a few times on here; but I still > don't know that much about it. You haven't read the back issues of the digest, eh? Esperanto is the album that Elektric Music released in May 93, incidentally coinciding with the mini tour of 3 dates that KW did. In case your next question is "what is Elektric Music", I'd add that it's Karl Bartos band that he formed after leaving KW. By the way, I've been told Elektric Music will still do more concerts in Scandinavia. Nothing as yet on a European, or American, tour. Jose Garcia pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 94 08:45:06 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #331 To: kraftwerk Really-From: richard@dgbt.doc.ca (Richard Paiement) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Is it true, Richard??? Please post more info about this concert in 1984. >I think nobody knows about any KW concerts between the Computer World tour >and the Mix tour!!! My mistake. It was for their Computer World tour that they played in Montreal. What year was that? I just wrote 1984 without thinking, cause it seemd right. Richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 94 19:41:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW discography To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu N KML>Is there a list available anywhere of all the Kraftwerk albums, CDs, and >singles? I want to figure out if I have *ABSOLUTLY* everything KW has >published! A friend of mine has compiled a quiet extensive list. It will sure be never compete but it sure contains much more than just the UK-issues which are listed in the Bussy book or the Record Collector special of two years ago. Because his interest in KW has declined he offered me to continue to update the list. I will start updating this list soon and will notify the KW mailing list when copies are available. | /|\ | dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl | /|\ | | / | \ | Dolf Wiemer | / | \ | | --------------- | P.O. Box 62, 6720 AB Bennekom | --------------- | | ' / | \ ` | The Netherlands | ' / | \ ` | | / | \ | +31 (0)8389-13576 or 15564 | / | \ | ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:06:48 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW discography, lyrics, pics To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu FTP.UWP.EDU is the one ftp site. There is a discog, lyrics, a few pics, plus all the back issues of the digest. Jose Garcia pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 26 May 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #336 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 26 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 336 Today's Topics: KW discography Sampler with KW-track (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 94 14:40:40 MESZ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW discography To: kraftwerk Really-From: Arnulf Striepecke Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > N > KML>Is there a list available anywhere of all the Kraftwerk albums, CDs, and > >singles? I want to figure out if I have *ABSOLUTLY* everything KW has > >published! > A friend of mine has compiled a quiet extensive list. It will sure be > never compete but it sure contains much more than just the UK-issues > which are listed in the Bussy book or the Record Collector special of > two years ago. Because his interest in KW has declined he offered me to > continue to update the list. I will start updating this list soon > and will notify the KW mailing list when copies are available. > Try to ask the person with the address datta@cs.uwp.edu . he's keeping the list on cs.uwp.edu . Hope it wasn't posted before. It seems quite long to me, hope it helps. Arnulf `Arnie, where is Arnie, have you seen Arnie???' ---------------------------------------------------------- Arnulf Striepecke Institute for Geodynamics Buschstrasse 4 Nussallee 8 53113 Bonn 53115 Bonn Voice: (49) 228 221573 (49) 228 73-7449 e-mail: Arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de Germany ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 94 22:08:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Sampler with KW-track To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu A new sampler with a KW-track is released in the UK. The title is 'It's Electric, classic hits from an electric era'. It is released by Dino Entertainment with the ordernr. DINCD 73. The track is 'The Model' 3:37. Other titles on this excellent sampler are from: New Order, Soft Cell, Yazoo, Visage, OMD, Japan, Bronski beat, Erasure, Eurythmics, Heaven 17, talk Talk, Tear for Fears, The Teardrop explodes (?), Tubeway Army, Spandau Ballet, A Flock of Seagulls, Gary Numan and Ultravox. To anyone who's interested in KW and music made in the first half of the eighties this CD is a must to have. | /|\ | dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl | /|\ | | / | \ | Dolf Wiemer | / | \ | | --------------- | P.O. Box 62, 6720 AB Bennekom | --------------- | | ' / | \ ` | The Netherlands | ' / | \ ` | | / | \ | +31 (0)8389-13576 or 15564 | / | \ | ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 94 00:10:51 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Sampler with KW-track To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Dolf Wiemer wrote: "A new sampler with a KW-track is released in the UK. The title is 'It's Electric, classic hits from an electric era'. It is released by Dino Entertainment with the ordernr. DINCD 73." This, of course, is assuming that some of us didn't go out and buy all the damned records on LP in the early 80s...gawd, I'm beginning to feel old... ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 27 May 94 04:00:14 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #337 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 27 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 337 Today's Topics: Sampler with KW-track ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 May 94 20:13:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Sampler with KW-track To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu A new sampler with a KW-track is released in the UK. The title is 'It's Electric, classic hits from an electric era'. It is released by Dino Entertainment with the ordernr. DINCD 73. The track is 'The Model' 3:37. Other titles on this excellent sampler are from: New Order, Soft Cell, Yazoo, Visage, OMD, Japan, Bronski beat, Erasure, Eurythmics, Heaven 17, talk Talk, Tear for Fears, The Teardrop explodes (?), Tubeway Army, Spandau Ballet, A Flock of Seagulls, Gary Numan and Ultravox. To anyone who's interested in KW and music made in the first half of the eighties this CD is a must to have. | /|\ | dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl | /|\ | | / | \ | Dolf Wiemer | / | \ | | --------------- | P.O. Box 62, 6720 AB Bennekom | --------------- | | ' / | \ ` | The Netherlands | ' / | \ ` | | / | \ | +31 (0)8389-13576 or 15564 | / | \ | ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 28 May 94 04:00:19 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #338 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 28 May 94 Volume 1 : Issue 338 Today's Topics: KW discography ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 May 94 18:50:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW discography To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >> KML>Is there a list available anywhere of all the Kraftwerk albums, CDs, a >> >singles? I want to figure out if I have *ABSOLUTLY* everything KW has >> >published! >> A friend of mine has compiled a quiet extensive list. It will sure be >> never compete but it sure contains much more than just the UK-issues >> which are listed in the Bussy book or the Record Collector special of >> two years ago. Because his interest in KW has declined he offered me to >> continue to update the list. I will start updating this list soon >> and will notify the KW mailing list when copies are available. >> KML>Try to ask the person with the address datta@cs.uwp.edu . >he's keeping the list on cs.uwp.edu . >Hope it wasn't posted before. >It seems quite long to me, hope it helps. I think our list includes everything which is on the list of cd.uwp.edu (at least a version of a year ago). But I will get an update of the list and check it with our list. greets, Dolf | /|\ | dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl | /|\ | | / | \ | Dolf Wiemer | / | \ | | --------------- | P.O. Box 62, 6720 AB Bennekom | --------------- | | ' / | \ ` | The Netherlands | ' / | \ ` | | / | \ | +31 (0)8389-13576 or 15564 | / | \ | ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ******************************