From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #320 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, 1 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 320 Re: florian schneider collab? Re: florian schneider collab? MTV... KW on Today Show Now i misspell unsubscribe YT4477@aol.com Re: florian schneider collab? Re: Now i misspell NDN: Re: florian schneider collab? NDN: Re: Now i misspell ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:07:25 +0200 Subject: Re: florian schneider collab? Really-From: lels@geo.vu.nl (Sander_Lelieveld) About Florian on sax: He did seem to play a kind of an electrical sax on the Ralph and Florian album. As can be seen on the back-cover of this LP (Pop legends version) By the way: If ever you are lucky enough to find this Trancewerk Express Vol. 1 CD: BUY IT ..... It is a great album. The featured artists are luckily far different in style than the Yugoslavian bands on the Trance Slovenian Express album, and more in a nowadays interpretation of what Kraftwerk would be like. Sounds Great!! Sander Lelieveld ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:07:25 +0200 Subject: Re: florian schneider collab? Really-From: lels@geo.vu.nl (Sander_Lelieveld) About Florian on sax: He did seem to play a kind of an electrical sax on the Ralph and Florian album. As can be seen on the back-cover of this LP (Pop legends version) By the way: If ever you are lucky enough to find this Trancewerk Express Vol. 1 CD: BUY IT ..... It is a great album. The featured artists are luckily far different in style than the Yugoslavian bands on the Trance Slovenian Express album, and more in a nowadays interpretation of what Kraftwerk would be like. Sounds Great!! Sander Lelieveld ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 08:09:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: MTV... Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA Ooooohh, this is rather amusing. Saw a post on the Depeche Mode mailserv "BONG" yesterday where someone complained that "MTV didn't show any dM in their synth-pop special, except for playing 'Just Can't Get Enough' in the background for something." But the person also indicated that MTV was cablecasting another show later this week in which the hopes were raised for some more dM. Ironically, this morning (monday) I find the same message (well, close at least) on the Kraftwerk mailserv. Muuuaahahahahhahhahahahahahaha hah hy HA! ....Die Sonne scheint, mit glitzern Strahlen..... and it's *way* too hot in Tennessee in the summer - -Martin ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 10:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: KW on Today Show Really-From: Ravi Baskaran This morning, the Today show had a short story on a Cyber Cafe, a coffeehouse where you can go online. Guess what the background music was? Home Computer! 'If warped values are the price of a vicarious thrill, so be it!' Ravi Baskaran - baskaran@bb.iu.net \ ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:59:38 EDT Subject: Now i misspell Really-From: Richard.Paiement@crc.doc.ca (Richard V. Paiement) I asked: >> What was it corrected to? "Medecine" is a very common word in both english >> and french, and possibly other languages. and was told: > What is 'medecine' in English then? It's not in my dictionary. I >believe the word would be medicine, unless I am totally off track. It >may be a word in French, but not English. Sorry... Oops! Sorry, you are right, in english it is written medicine. However, the same word is written medecine in french, so who knows if KW made a mistake. They might have intentionally written it in french, and maybe elsewhere on the tour changed it to the english spelling, for unknown reasons. Richard ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:17:04 -0400 Subject: unsubscribe YT4477@aol.com Really-From: YT4477@aol.com unsubscribe YT4477@aol.com ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:50:25 -0400 Subject: Re: florian schneider collab? Really-From: Curryous@aol.com Yes, I'd like to hear more about it as well. I've heard vague rumblings that KW is actually recording a new album from several different sources.It has a "global village concept. I think it's true but I could be wrong. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Now i misspell Really-From: Bb/D A/C On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, Richard wrote: > Oops! Sorry, you are right, in english it is written medicine. However, the > same word is written medecine in french, so who knows if KW made a mistake. That's hard to know because Kraftwerk deals with a few, if not several, languages in their music. Why would we assume that they were using English anyway? :/ My French is poor but I figured that medecine was likely a French spelling -- but then, medizin is the German equivalent. Sorry to make a big issue of it! -- Omega ____ __________________________ __\ __ ____ / omega@io.org __\ __ / http://www.io.org/~omega \ /\ __________________________ ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 31 Jul 1995 23:10:31 GMT Subject: NDN: Re: florian schneider collab? Really-From: Post_Office@tvo.org (Post Office) Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: Mike Lemega (Mailbox or Conference is full.) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 31 Jul 1995 23:26:58 GMT Subject: NDN: Re: Now i misspell Really-From: Post_Office@tvo.org (Post Office) Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: Mike Lemega (Mailbox or Conference is full.) ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #320 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #321 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, 2 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 321 Re: Digests and FAQs Unsubscribe Unsubscribe Re: Digests and FAQs Kraftwerk and languages Re: Kraftwerk and languages RE: Kraftwerk and languages ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 12:53:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Digests and FAQs Really-From: Kevin Busby pamolo@internet-eireann.ie (Paolo G. Cordone) wrote:- > I am in the process of getting the digests to have an idea of what has been > talking about in the past years. > > However, I have terrible problems with them. First of all I don't seem to > be able to ftp the files from ftp.uwp.edu even in the morning here (GMT); > secondly there are zillions of digests in there. Has anybody got a > compressed archive with all or at least most of the digests so that it is > easier for a new member to be initated to the list? Access to ftp.uwp.edu is very limited, but try _very_ early in the morning! One massive archive of past digests *would* be nearly impossible to download! (If you're using unix-style ftp, toggle "prompt" off and use "mget" with wildcards - 'man ftp' has the details [with apologies if you already knew]). > Also, regrettably I found the FAQ to be very vague, referring too often to > those digests. While it's a good idea to have a reference to more detailed > information, why don't we try to produce a nice, comprehensive Kraftwerk > FAQ? Is the FAQ really "vague" or (as I intended) "concise"? As I see it, the point of a FAQ list is to answer Frequently Asked Questions. I did not want the FAQ to become one of those bloated "FAQs" which are rambling collections of anecdotes, trivia and other information which no one with any sort of life has the patience to sift through. Neither do I have the time to write an online book on Kraftwerk! (unless of course someone is offering to pay me outrageously high sums to do so, which I think is unlikely!). What I have tried to do is create a format whereby people can get concise answers to common questions; that way, readers with specific enquiries have (to admittedly varying degrees!) a brief answer with pointers to further information if they want it, and those new to the list can get a good introduction to Kraftwerk and the email list without their patience being tested. > This is not a critic, just an observation :-) Criticism or observation is fine by me! I appreciate the feedback (given that some characters insisting on sending their "unsubscribe" messages to the list address no matter what I write in the FAQ, it's nice to know that _someone_ reads these things!). If there are entries in the FAQ list which people think should be expanded, I welcome suggestions. Just don't expect me to write masses more by myself - so far the only other contributor to the FAQ has been Jose!! And - let's face it - some of the original digest material itself is *very* sketchy material to work on! Regards Kevin - -- That URL: http://sun1.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk_faq.html in genuine HTML... ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 09:50:38 -0400 Subject: Unsubscribe Really-From: Nthings@aol.com PLEASE TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST! ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 13:04:19 -0400 Subject: Unsubscribe Really-From: DANCEROTIC@aol.com Unsubscribe ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:49:08 +0100 Subject: Re: Digests and FAQs Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" >Access to ftp.uwp.edu is very limited, but try _very_ early in the morning! >One massive archive of past digests *would* be nearly impossible to download! >(If you're using unix-style ftp, toggle "prompt" off and use "mget" with >wildcards - 'man ftp' has the details [with apologies if you already knew]). > Thanks, Kevin, I have started downloading ALL past digests using one of the mirrors. Wow, these digests make a very interesting reading! :-) >Is the FAQ really "vague" or (as I intended) "concise"? As I see it, the >point >of a FAQ list is to answer Frequently Asked Questions. I did not want the FAQ >to become one of those bloated "FAQs" which are rambling collections of >anecdotes, trivia and other information which no one with any sort of life >has >the patience to sift through. Neither do I have the time to write an online >book on Kraftwerk! (unless of course someone is offering to pay me >outrageously high sums to do so, which I think is unlikely!). What I have >tried to do is create a format whereby people can get concise answers to >common questions; that way, readers with specific enquiries have (to >admittedly varying degrees!) a brief answer with pointers to further >information if they want it, and those new to the list can get a good >introduction to Kraftwerk and the email list without their patience being >tested. Sorry, I didn't mean to say vague, really. Whenever I'm finished reading the digests (God knows when ;-) I'll be compiling a list of things I think should be added. >Criticism or observation is fine by me! I appreciate the feedback (given that >some characters insisting on sending their "unsubscribe" messages to the list >address no matter what I write in the FAQ, it's nice to know that _someone_ >reads these things!). If there are entries in the FAQ list which people think >should be expanded, I welcome suggestions. Just don't expect me to write >masses more by myself - so far the only other contributor to the FAQ has been >Jose!! And - let's face it - some of the original digest material itself is >*very* sketchy material to work on! I'm sure everybody on this list appreciate the effort you put into it :-) Paolo ========================================================================== Paolo G. Cordone Ailesbury Road. Dublin 4, Ireland Macintosh software pamolo@internet-eireann.ie, pcordone@homer.itp.ie localisation specialist http://intac.com/~gilesrd/paologc.html ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:49:12 +0100 Subject: Kraftwerk and languages Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" At 17:08 31/7/95, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > That's hard to know because Kraftwerk deals with a few, if not > several, languages in their music. Why would we assume that they were using > English anyway? :/ My French is poor but I figured that medecine was > likely a French spelling -- but then, medizin is the German equivalent. On this very subject, I have always been wondering why Krafterk produced their albums in many different languages. I haven't found many bands which do the same. Also, it must cost a bit more, since there needs to be several recording sessions, pressings, marketing efforts, etc. Just wondering what you all think about this...:-) Paolo ========================================================================== Paolo G. Cordone Ailesbury Road. Dublin 4, Ireland Macintosh software pamolo@internet-eireann.ie, pcordone@homer.itp.ie localisation specialist http://intac.com/~gilesrd/paologc.html ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 16:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kraftwerk and languages Really-From: "Aaron J. Grier" On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" > > On this very subject, I have always been wondering why Krafterk produced > their albums in many different languages. > I haven't found many bands which do the same. > Also, it must cost a bit more, since there needs to be several recording > sessions, pressings, marketing efforts, etc. > > Just wondering what you all think about this...:-) I don't think it would be all that tough, as I'm sure Kraftwerk were multi-tracking dudes. It's rather trivial to re-record vocals on a song in a multitrack environment. I think it's really neat... something I wish more bands would do. Of course, they always have that nifty german accent in whatever language they sing. :) - ---- The Finn / VLA | "Feel the love: have a carrot!" -- Groovy Dave Aaron J. Grier | DE CB EE 65 0D EE 3A 0C 1E D7 F5 4D 9E 02 3C C4 agrier@reed.edu | The above line contains a bunch of letters & numbers. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 22:18:13 +0800 (U) Subject: RE: Kraftwerk and languages Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." >On this very subject, I have always been wondering why Krafterk produced >their albums in many different languages. >I haven't found many bands which do the same. >Also, it must cost a bit more, since there needs to be several recording >sessions, pressings, marketing efforts, etc. >Just wondering what you all think about this...:-) >Paolo It sounds to me like the recordings in different languages are all pretty much identical with just the vocals changed. Slight differences can be heard in some cases though. 'Numbers' for instance sounds a bit different in the German version and plays a few seconds longer I think. Laying down the alternate Vocals wouldn't require too much more studio time but I agree that there are probably costly additions to facilitate different pressings and distribution plans to accomodate the different countries. Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #321 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #322 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Thursday, 3 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 322 RE: Kraftwerk and languages Re: Kraftwerk and languages Unsubscribe [none] TO KRAFTWERK AND TELEX FANS Cones ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:39:29 +0200 Subject: RE: Kraftwerk and languages Really-From: lels@geo.vu.nl (Sander_Lelieveld) - ----- Begin Included Message ----- >On this very subject, I have always been wondering why Krafterk produced >their albums in many different languages. >I haven't found many bands which do the same. >Also, it must cost a bit more, since there needs to be several recording >sessions, pressings, marketing efforts, etc. >Just wondering what you all think about this...:-) >Paolo - ----- End Included Message ----- Kraftwerk's music is supposed to be a world-uniting thing: we would all play music on our computer, just as easy as that. Because there are different languages around the world, why not recording your "One-world" songs in different languages? The music still remains the same for all of us..... Sander Lelieveld ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:51:16 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: Kraftwerk and languages Really-From: J|rgen B|rjesson Talking about languages, do the members of KW know all those languages themselves or do they simply have someone translate the texts for them? So far they've used (at least) texts in: German, English, Spanish, Japanese, French and they've used some words in Russian, Italian (in Pocket Calculator from the live album "Hyper Cerebral Machine"). Quite a lot languages to know! /jorgen borjesson "Music is organized noise" Ralf Huetter ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 06:20:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Unsubscribe Really-From: Monica and The Machman Unsubscribe mtolva@eagle.ibc.edu ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:45:39 +0200 Subject: [none] Really-From: vanluyke@innet.be (Van Luyken Consultants Belgium) Hello From Brussels, Belgium I know that some of Kraftwerk's fans are also interested in Telex ( Belgian Electronic Bnad). Stephan Oxenham (UK) and Emmanuel Goedseels (Belgium) are busy to compile a big Telex discography (about 200 records). This discography should be ready by the end of August. We still need information from Japanese collectors in order to finish it. If you are Japanese and can help us, please contact us. For the other fans, feel free to e-mail us your adress. We will send this discography when totally completed. BTW, we will be very pleased to trade/exchange records you may have. Please contact us. Hear from you soon. E. Goedseels (Belgium) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 17:16:13 +0200 Subject: TO KRAFTWERK AND TELEX FANS Really-From: vanluyke@innet.be (Van Luyken Consultants Belgium) Really-From: vanluyke@innet.be (Van Luyken Consultants Belgium) Hello From Brussels, Belgium I know that some of Kraftwerk's fans are also interested in Telex ( Belgian Electronic Bnad). Stephan Oxenham (UK) and Emmanuel Goedseels (Belgium) are busy to compile a big Telex discography (about 200 records). This discography should be ready by the end of August. We still need information from Japanese collectors in order to finish it. If you are Japanese and can help us, please contact us. For the other fans, feel free to e-mail us your adress. We will send this discography when totally completed. BTW, we will be very pleased to trade/exchange records you may have. Please contact us. Hear from you soon. E. Goedseels (Belgium) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 21:14:55 +0100 Subject: Cones Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" I have always wanted to ask you this question to the members of the list. Back when I was living in Italy, my sister and me used to be huge Kraftwerk fans (not that we are not anymore, but you know, starting to work, other interestes, etc, etc) we used to produce a radio program called Musica 2000. That started in 1979 and continued until 1986 when I left for Germany. It goes without saying that Kraftwerk was one of the major features of our program. At that time we started a weird collection: roadworks cones! In total we must have collected at least 20-30, from various countries. Italy (of course), germany, France, we even went to Switzerland to collect some. You would be surprised how different they can be. The German and British ones also have a small "propeller" on top of them, with three luminescent disks, so that they can be seen when it's dark. Unfortunately we never managed to get one of those with powered lights :-( Anyway, I wanted to know if anybody else has ever done the same... Paolo ========================================================================== Paolo G. Cordone Ailesbury Road. Dublin 4, Ireland Macintosh software pamolo@internet-eireann.ie, pcordone@homer.itp.ie localisation specialist http://intac.com/~gilesrd/paologc.html ========================================================================== ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #322 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #323 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Friday, 4 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 323 David Bowie ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 21:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: David Bowie Really-From: Ravi Baskaran I'm a bit of a newbie to Kraftwerk and this list. I was wondering if Kraftwerk had ever done some sort of collaboration with David Bowie. I know someone mentioned that Bowie's 'V-2 Schneider' had some connection, but I was thinking of producing, writing, touring, etc? Thanks in advance. 'If warped values are the price of a vicarious thrill, so be it!' Ravi Baskaran - baskaran@bb.iu.net ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #323 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #324 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 5 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 324 Re: Cones Re: Kraftwerk on MTV!!!??? Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #257 RE: David Bowie Re: Kraftwerk on MTV!!!??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:46:17 +0200 Subject: Re: Cones Really-From: lels@geo.vu.nl (Sander_Lelieveld) To the confession booth. Hi, OOOOPsssss, steeling cones, bad boy! Yes I did the same, butI only collected powered lights! That was real fun, at that time! They were flashing in my room, at night, it was a lovely view from outside, through the window... The most funny thing was the first I ever nicked, because I did not know how to turn them off. So I was cycling through the town, at night, with this light under my jacket, flashing right through it! So it must have been a stupid thing to see someone cycling that way! But anyway, you were not the only one! Forgot to mention this is HOLLAND..... SEE YOU, Sander Lelieveld ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:50:26 +0200 Subject: Re: Kraftwerk on MTV!!!??? Really-From: lels@geo.vu.nl (Sander_Lelieveld) - ----- Begin Included Message ----- Well, I suppose it had to happen, but I a was flipping around on the old tube and I came upon MTV News, which promised a look back at 80's "synth-pop" So I watched it & the piece was about 2.5 min long and they showed Kraftwerk for about 10 seconds of it. They didn't mention who they were but they played 5 seconds of "The Model's" solo. That's not all, tho. They are having a 1hr special on Thur. at 9pm central. About 80's synth pop, so they might show more Kraftwerk. We're safe, for now! Nick - ----- End Included Message ----- THAT IS AMERICAN MTV I PRESUME??? Central time, what is that? But, more important: WAS KRAFTWERK ON?????? Sander Lelieveld ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 09:40:38 +0100 Subject: Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #257 Really-From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk First time I've actually mailed the list so here goes.I put a request on alt.techno (or was it alt.rave??) for a copy of this European release of Tour de France that came out three months ago (I read about it in the digest).All the responses I have had so far are offering me the original 12" or the French 12" both of which I bought years ago. Can anyone sell me a copy on CD please.Also I have a keen interest in a couple of these bootlegs I keep reading about (Remodelled in '92 is one of them). Can anyone sell me one .....PLEASE!! Dave H ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 14:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: David Bowie Really-From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu >Really-From: Ravi Baskaran >I'm a bit of a newbie to Kraftwerk and this list. I was wondering if >Kraftwerk had ever done some sort of collaboration with David Bowie. I >know someone mentioned that Bowie's 'V-2 Schneider' had some connection, >but I was thinking of producing, writing, touring, etc? Thanks in advance. Bowie wanted Kraftwerk as his opening act for his Thin White Duke (Station To Station) tour but the logistics proved impossible. Opening acts have little time for equipment set-up and sound checks and heavy tour schedules take a toll on the equipment. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 17:37:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Kraftwerk on MTV!!!??? Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-04 04:54:03 EDT, you write: > >THAT IS AMERICAN MTV I PRESUME??? >Central time, what is that? >But, more important: WAS KRAFTWERK ON?????? > >Sander Lelieveld sorry not to mention that it was American MTV, Kraftwerk was never mentioned, & in the "It came from the 80's" speical they never talked or showed anything about Kraftwerk, all this weekend, they are going to play 80's music. I doubt they will play any kraftwerk video. I hope they do I have never seen a kraftwerk video! Does anyone have any on tape? Nick ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #324 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #325 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Sunday, 6 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 325 Re: florian schneider collab? Re: Cones Re: Cones Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #324 Re: Re: Cones Re: Re: Cones Re: Cones ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 03:39:02 -0400 Subject: Re: florian schneider collab? Really-From: ZENROXY@aol.com >>Really-From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) > > Really-From: ZENROXY@aol.com > > > i was just curious if the following is the florian schneider form kraftwerk > or someone else, like the FS mentioned in the FAQ who did some soundtrack > work a while back? > - ------------stuff deleted-----------> > i know florian played some sort of reed instrument on "ralf & florian" but > don't recall exactly what it was. > He played flutes on the early LP's. I'm not aware that he played sax but it's possible. > so does anyone know who this is or has even heard of this release? i don't > think i've ever seen this mentioned in a can discography either. > > Sounds like an interesting recording and I would like to learn more about it as well...Saul well, i gave all the info regarding the record in my original posting regarding this. i am surprised that no one else has replied to this w/ any sort of confirmation as to whether it really is thee florian schneider or someone else. does anyone know what these kraftwerk remix boots are all about? i remember seeing one a while back. i think it was "ultra rare trax", but it just sounded like someone did their own remixes in their bedroom or something. are these other ones actually different kraftwerk version, rare remixes, etc... or just someone screwing around w/ a sampler? a list of which ones to avoid would be nice. david *+* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 14:24:56 +0200 Subject: Re: Cones Really-From: majortom@muc.de (mw) Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" >Anyway, I wanted to know if anybody else has ever done the same... Yes! The KW cone... always loved that symbol. Though I only have one, which I "found" in '83. It's a new (German) one with luminescent red colour. The original KW cone was I believe non-luminescent colour (there's a very nice pic of this on the inside of KW1 or 2), but they don't make those anymore... It's interesting to note that the cone already appears on the cover of Tone Float/Organisation where Ralf Huetter is credited with the artwork. (mw) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 08:54:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Cones Really-From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) *#*# *#*#Really-From: majortom@muc.de (mw) *#*# *#*#Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" *#*# *#*#It's interesting to note that the cone already appears on the cover of Tone Float/Organisation where Ralf Huetter is credited with the artwork. I had a copy of Tone Float in 1975 and I don't recall seeing any cones on it. Are you sre the one you have isn't a re-issue. - -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Saul Smaizys^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _ \/ _ _ _ \ / S /=\/\ | |-| e R /-\ P | phone = 312/907/8229 web page http:/pages.ripco.com:8080/~saxmania p r a c t i c i n g s a f e s a x s i n c e 1 9 6 9 ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 10:33:28 -0700 Subject: Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #324 Really-From: lenpacnw@nwlink.com (Len - Pacific NW) >> >>I'm a bit of a newbie to Kraftwerk and this list. I was wondering if >>Kraftwerk had ever done some sort of collaboration with David Bowie. I >>know someone mentioned that Bowie's 'V-2 Schneider' had some connection, >>but I was thinking of producing, writing, touring, etc? Thanks in advance. > >Bowie wanted Kraftwerk as his opening act for his Thin White Duke (Station >To Station) tour but the logistics proved impossible. Opening acts have >little time for equipment set-up and sound checks and heavy tour schedules >take a toll on the equipment. > >John McIntyre >Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept >Michigan State University > > Maybe everyone knows this already, but according to Dave Thompson's liner notes to the 1993 CD release of TEE, "[Bowie] was doubtless as surprised as anybody to find himself and Iggy Pop namechecked on the album's title cut, the epic "Trans-Europe Express" itself, and he promptly returned the favor during the recording of his own next album, 'Heroes.' Not only did he follow Kraftwerk's lead by recording the title track in the same three languages as they rendered "Showroom Dummies" - German, English and French; he also immortalized Florian in the title of one of "Heroes's" best cuts, the driving instrumental 'V-2 Schneider.''" Being new to this list myself - hello. And Mr. (Professor?) McIntyre, I'm intrigued by the name of your department. (I've been listening to a lot of Syd Barrett lately.) Len Lenpacnw@nwlink.com========================== "Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is the best." Frank Zappa ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 05 Aug 1995 21:20:46 GMT Subject: Re: Re: Cones Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) > It's interesting to note that the cone already appears on the cover of Tone > Float/Organisation where Ralf Huetter is credited with the artwork. Even more interesting: Kraftwerk - Recorded & Remixed July-September 1970 Tone Float - Recorded & Remixed After That (1971 or 1972) Ultra-Super-Most Interesting: Take a look at the Ralf & Florian Cover. On the backside's Color Photo where Ralf & Florian sit's in a basement or something.. In the middle, under the ultra-cool Lamp..... The ORIGINAL KRAFTWERK CONE!!! //Martin Picture available at the Inofficial Kraftwerk Homepage - Infobahr (Webcrawler will find it (WWW.Webcrawler.com)) In the 21st century, Cones will rule the world Martin.Rundqvist@sting.dextel.se Martin.Rundqvist@abc.se > It's interesting to note that the cone already appears on the cover of Tone > Float/Organisation where Ralf Huetter is credited with the artwork. Even more interesting: Kraftwerk - Recorded & Remixed July-September 1970 Tone Float - Recorded & Remixed After That (1971 or 1972) Ultra-Super-Most Interesting: Take a look at the Ralf & Florian Cover. On the backside's Color Photo where Ralf & Florian sit's in a basement or something.. In the middle, under the ultra-cool Lamp..... The ORIGINAL KRAFTWERK CONE!!! //Martin Picture available at the Inofficial Kraftwerk Homepage - Infobahr (Webcrawler will find it (WWW.Webcrawler.com)) In the 21st century, Cones will rule the world ********** Sent via the StingNet (Sweden) UUCP Gateway ************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 17:03:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Re: Cones Really-From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) ~ ~Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) ~ ~> It's interesting to note that the cone already appears on the cover of ~Tone ~> Float/Organisation where Ralf Huetter is credited with the artwork. ~ ~Even more interesting: ~ Kraftwerk - Recorded & Remixed July-September 1970 ~ Tone Float - Recorded & Remixed After That (1971 or 1972) than that must be a re-issue cause the one I had was dated 1970 and I was told by the German guy who sent it to me that there were only 250 copies of it pressed ~ ~ - -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Saul Smaizys^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _ \/ _ _ _ \ / S /=\/\ | |-| e R /-\ P | phone = 312/907/8229 web page http:/pages.ripco.com:8080/~saxmania p r a c t i c i n g s a f e s a x s i n c e 1 9 6 9 ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 23:42:05 +0100 Subject: Re: Cones Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" >*#*#Really-From: majortom@muc.de (mw) >*#*# >*#*#Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" >*#*# >*#*#It's interesting to note that the cone already appears on the cover of >Tone Float/Organisation where Ralf Huetter is credited with the artwork. > >I had a copy of Tone Float in 1975 and I don't recall seeing any cones on it. >Are you sre the one you have isn't a re-issue. Just to clear up some confusion with the quotes, I haven't said anything about Tone Float. It was majortom@muc.de (mw) who did. In fact, I don't even own that album (unfortunately :-((( Paolo ========================================================================== Paolo G. Cordone Ailesbury Road. Dublin 4, Ireland Macintosh software pamolo@internet-eireann.ie, pcordone@homer.itp.ie localisation specialist http://intac.com/~gilesrd/paologc.html ========================================================================== ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #325 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #326 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Monday, 7 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 326 Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #325 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 05:20:44 +0200 Subject: Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #325 Really-From: majortom@muc.de (mw) >Really-From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) >I had a copy of Tone Float in 1975 and I don't recall seeing any cones on it. >Are you sre the one you have isn't a re-issue. Yes, I it's the original. There's a little drawn cone on the back left of the credits. The nicest cone pic on a KW record imho is in the middle of the double LP Autobahn compelation from Philips (w/ the blue Autobahn sign on the cover). It's a very atmosperic picture, apparently take at dawn with dominating cold blue colours contrasted by some red spots and the light of the rising sun in the background. I think it's taken w/ a polarisation filter. In the background there is a large industrial building which could be a powerplant. In front of it there is a very old Volkswagen van and workman w/ one of those bright red west's laying out a circular line of red cones which get larger with the perspective as they approach the viewer and finally run out of the right side of the picture. (mw) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #326 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #327 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, 8 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 327 Re: Florian Schneider collaboration ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:43:39 MET+100 Subject: Re: Florian Schneider collaboration Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > i was just curious if the following is the florian schneider form kraftwerk > or someone else, like the FS mentioned in the FAQ who did some soundtrack > work a while back? > > group:jacky horn > track: mr.psychologist > on:various-"off record no.1-stollwerck sampler" > > it features a florian schneider on sax. What is the track's recording date? If it was recorded before 1974, it is probably a different Florian Schneider, because "our" Florian was usually credited with his full name "Florian Schneider-Esleben" on pre-1974 recordings. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #327 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #328 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, 9 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 328 Languages Re: Bowie RE: Languages Re: Florian Schneider collaboration Re: Bowie RE: Languages Re: Bowie The Model unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:45:08 MET+100 Subject: Languages Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > Talking about languages, do the members of KW know all those > languages themselves or do they simply have someone translate > the texts for them? > So far they've used (at least) texts in: German, English, Spanish, > Japanese, French and they've used some words in Russian, Italian > (in Pocket Calculator from the live album "Hyper Cerebral Machine"). I know some Kraftwerk radio interviews, and they prove that Ralf Huetter speaks at least German (unsurprisingly!), English, Spanish and French. He speaks probably neither Japanese nor Italian, because he used English when giving interviews to Japanese or Italian radio stations. In this context I would like to ask if somebody is interested in swapping interview tapes. I've already a large collection, but I'm still looking for the two Spanish interviews from 1986, for any US interviews from 1975 and of course for any other Kraftwerk interviews I may not already have. BTW: An Italian language studio version of "Pocket Calculator" does also exist: "Minicalcolatore". It was used as playback for Italian TV appearances, though it was probably not released on a record. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:46:09 MET+100 Subject: Re: Bowie Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > Bowie wanted Kraftwerk as his opening act for his Thin White Duke (Station > To Station) tour but the logistics proved impossible. Opening acts have > little time for equipment set-up and sound checks and heavy tour schedules > take a toll on the equipment. Are you really sure that logistic problems were the reason? Please excuse my question, but it was always reported that Kraftwerk refused Bowie's offer because of conceptional reasons, not wanting to be someone else's opening act. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 11:11:54 +0800 (U) Subject: RE: Languages Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." >BTW: An Italian language studio version of "Pocket Calculator" does also >exist: "Minicalcolatore". It was used as playback for Italian TV appearances, >though it was probably not released on a record. > Klaus Zaepke Wow! Minicalcolatore! I'd love to hear that! Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:52:54 MET+100 Subject: Re: Florian Schneider collaboration Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > i was just curious if the following is the florian schneider form kraftwerk > or someone else, like the FS mentioned in the FAQ who did some soundtrack > work a while back? > > group:jacky horn > track: mr.psychologist > on:various-"off record no.1-stollwerck sampler" > > it features a florian schneider on sax. I did some research work, and this is what I found out: The "Tilch" encyclopedia of rock musicians lists two people named Florian Schneider, the member of Kraftwerk and a sax player, so it's probably the other one who's credited on your record, though we cannot be absolutely sure because this encyclodedia contains A LOT OF mistakes. The other Florian Schneider is also listed with this release: Les immer essen: "Tally-Ho" (EMI 066-147100-1) (1985) The Florian Schneider from Kraftwerk is also listed with this record: Ikarus: "Mit Wolfgang und Mohammad" (POOL 623792) (1979) It is written that Schneider is playing violin on this record. But, as I said, the encyclopedia contains a lot of mistakes, so I'm also not sure if the Florian Schneider on the "Ikarus" LP is the one from Kraftwerk. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:13:00 GMT-3:00 Subject: Re: Bowie Really-From: Eduardo Marcel Macan > Are you really sure that logistic problems were the reason? Please excuse > my question, but it was always reported that Kraftwerk refused Bowie's offer > because of conceptional reasons, not wanting to be someone else's opening act. > > Klaus Zaepke It sounds strange to me, since I was told they were the "opening act" for U2 during the "Stop Sellafield concert"... Well, maybe the agressions against the environment are more important to them than their own ego... That's very kind of them :) eduardo. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:22:42 +0100 Subject: RE: Languages Really-From: "Paolo G. Cordone" >Wow! Minicalcolatore! I'd love to hear that! I think I might have recorded that when I saw it. Next time I go to Italy I'll try to find the tape. Paolo ========================================================================== Paolo G. Cordone Ailesbury Road. Dublin 4, Ireland Macintosh software pamolo@internet-eireann.ie, pcordone@homer.itp.ie localisation specialist http://intac.com/~gilesrd/paologc.html ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 21:14:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Bowie Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA STOP PAUSE WAIT. The "Stop Sellafield" concert was a multiband concert. KW didn't open for U2, U2 didn't open for B.A.D II... Just wanted to clear that :*) While on the subject: There is a great big book about U2 (8.5 X 11 size) packed with pics of the band (U2) and a little story to go with it. NOW, there is also a nice size pic of KRAFTWERK on stage (black'n white) performing a song. Check it out! There's only one thing weird with this pic: As far as I can remember, KW performed *only* Radio Activity and The Robots. Fine. Now, on the videoscreens behind them you can clearly see a number (I think it was a "2")... My question is: Were there *numbers* featured in the live graphics for The Robots or Radio Activity? I think not - but then again, it was ages since I saw any KW video stuff from The Mix. What I am getting at here is "Were there maybe other songs performed that we don't know about? Such as Numbers for example (which then would explain why there is a big ole flubby digital "2" behind them). Anyway, that's my spiel, - -Martin ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 21:46:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: The Model Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA Guten Abend, Something just hit me: On my Ultra Rare Trax there is a version of "The Model" (can't remember the name of the mix) which begins with a voice (sounds like Ralf's) saying (without any music in the background): GENTLEMEN! ATTENTION! Then the song kicks off. Now, I'm not a french schollar by any means, but the way "attention" is pronounced sounds mighty French to me. In some kind of semi-phonetics it would be "attension" (that's with an "s"). Well, now I wounder "from where does this little voice part originally come from? Is it even a KW member saying it? For some really strange reason, I seem to recall a version of The Model/Das Modell that bigins like I just described. But hey, I'm more than likely off my rockers on that one. Anyway, could someone with divine insight straighten this out, please. - -Martin ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 8 AUG 95 23:57:46 EDT Subject: unsubscribe Really-From: PPilgrim@Teleglobe.CA unsubscribe unsubscribe ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #328 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #329 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Thursday, 10 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 329 Re: Florian Schneider collaboration Sellafield concert Re: The Model Re: Sellafield concert Kraftwerk cover versions Re: Bowie Re: Sellafield concert KW -pics in U2 book. Re: Sellafield concert Re: The Model Trancewerk Express / Trance Europe Express Re: The Model ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 03:35:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Florian Schneider collaboration Really-From: ZENROXY@aol.com >>What is the track's recording date? If it was recorded before >>1974, it is probably a different Florian Schneider, because >>our" Florian was usually credited with his full name >>"Florian Schneider-Esleben" on pre-1974 recordings. no this was released in 1985. so.... what do you think now..... david *+* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 10:59:12 MET+100 Subject: Sellafield concert Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > While on the subject: There is a great big book about U2 (8.5 X 11 size) > packed with pics of the band (U2) and a little story to go with it. NOW, > there is also a nice size pic of KRAFTWERK on stage (black'n white) > performing a song. Check it out! Do you know the title of the book? > There's only one thing weird with this pic: As far as I can > remember, KW performed *only* Radio Activity and The Robots. Fine. They performed also other songs, but only "Radio Activity" and "The Robots" were included on the video tape. BTW: Parts of the "Radio Activity" part of the video were obviously filmed during "Computer World": The soundtrack plays "Radio Activity", but the video screens on stage show the graphics for the "Computer World" song. :-) (Listen closely, it's very short.) > Now, on the videoscreens behind them you can clearly see a number (I think > it was a "2")... My question is: Were there *numbers* featured in the > live graphics for The Robots or Radio Activity? No, it's from the live graphics for "Numbers". > "Were there maybe other songs performed that we don't > know about? Such as Numbers for example (which then would explain why > there is a big ole flubby digital "2" behind them). They performed the following songs: 1) The Robots 2) Numbers 3) Computer World 4) The Model 5) Tour de France 6) Autobahn 7) Radioactivity 8 Trans Europe Express The whole show lasted ca. 40 Minutes. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:09:11 MET+100 Subject: Re: The Model Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > Something just hit me: On my Ultra Rare Trax there is a version of > "The Model" (can't remember the name of the mix) which begins with > a voice (sounds like Ralf's) saying (without any music in the > background): GENTLEMEN! ATTENTION! Then the song kicks off. > Well, now I wounder "from where does this little voice part originally > come from? Is it even a KW member saying it? I'm quite sure that it is neither Ralf nor any other Kraftwerk member. > For some really strange reason, I seem to recall a version of > The Model/Das Modell that bigins like I just described. But hey, I'm > more than likely off my rockers on that one. I don't know such a version. I believe that there are only two studio versions of "The Model": the English and the German LP version. But in concerts the song starts usually with Ralf counting "Eins, zwei, drei, vier" ("One, two, three, four" in German). Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:53:44 MET+100 Subject: Re: Sellafield concert Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > (Listen closely, it's very short.) DAMNED! What I wanted to say is of course: *Look* closely, it's very short. :-) Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 13:11:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Kraftwerk cover versions Really-From: Kevin Busby Just a brief reminder that my cover versions discography at the 'Infobahr' WWW site is the FINAL version, as I found that cover versions were being included in Lazlo Nibble's general Kraftwerk discography (ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/lazlo/discographies/kraftwerk). (I've asked Anders to reinclude this missing announcement from the cover versions discography, but as it's the vacation I assume it may not be easy for him to do so at the moment). For some reason I'm currently being emailed a lot of information on Kraftwerk cover versions, which I'm having to forward to Lazlo. No big problem, but if anyone else wishes to contribute information which is in neither discography, please cut out the middleman and email Lazlo direct. Many thanks Kevin ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:42:34 +0200 Subject: Re: Bowie Really-From: lels@geo.vu.nl (Sander_Lelieveld) > What I am >getting at here is "Were there maybe other songs performed that we don't >know about? Such as Numbers for example (which then would explain why >there is a big ole flubby digital "2" behind them). Maybe at TWO screens, it was U 2 that was shown ????? Not having seen the video, Sander Lelieveld ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 08:13:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Sellafield concert Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA Klaus, you wrote: >They performed the following songs: > 1) The Robots > 2) Numbers > 3) Computer World > 4) The Model > 5) Tour de France > 6) Autobahn > 7) Radioactivity > 8 Trans Europe Express >The whole show lasted ca. 40 Minutes. Now, there wouldn't *just happen* to be a bootleg video of this entire concert would there? If I remember from the "Sellafield" video, there seem to be quite a lot of reporters running around with cameras etc, and knowing U2's fixation for video cameras at the time - it would almost surprice me if there wasn't som kind of boot mad from this event... |========================================| | Martin Olsson af Njurunda | | | | e-mail lmo1654@lynx.apsu.edu | | | | Rendez-vous, am Champs Elyses | | Verlass Paris am Morgen mit dem T.E.E. | |========================================| ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 08:16:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: KW -pics in U2 book. Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier... I wrote about a KW pic in a U2 book yesterday, and if you give me until this weekend, I'll go back to the place and get all the info (ISBN, author, years, addresses, publishers etc). |========================================| | Martin Olsson af Njurunda | | | | e-mail lmo1654@lynx.apsu.edu | | | | Rendez-vous, am Champs Elyses | | Verlass Paris am Morgen mit dem T.E.E. | |========================================| ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:25:28 GMT-3:00 Subject: Re: Sellafield concert Really-From: Eduardo Marcel Macan > They performed the following songs: > 1) The Robots > 2) Numbers > 3) Computer World > 4) The Model > 5) Tour de France > 6) Autobahn > 7) Radioactivity > 8 Trans Europe Express Just curious, they have played the model, TDF and Numbers like the original versions or something more like the "the mix" songs? I think I would hate listening to a version of The Model with a "do-it-yourself-within-five-minutes" dance beat looping in the background, IMHO the music is perfect as it is (or as it was). I know it is an old subject, but I can't help telling you that I think some of the mix versions are "unlistenable" (e.g. the robots)...well..., the "new" autobahn is cool though :) I just wanted to say that I would hate to get to my fav. record shop and find a "MIX II" with versions of the songs they left out of the "MIX I", and it looks like it is exactly what they are going to do, :( or in Huetter words: "Maybe we release another record like this in one year or two" Well, 4 years are gone and nothing, but we are already used to that, anyway. And just in case Ralf or Florian ever read this: Please, release new stuff and bring Bartos and Wolfgang back too... eduardo. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 18:23:19 +0200 Subject: Re: The Model Really-From: vanluyke@innet.be (Van Luyken Consultants Belgium) >Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA > >Guten Abend, > >Something just hit me: On my Ultra Rare Trax there is a version of >"The Model" (can't remember the name of the mix) which begins with >a voice (sounds like Ralf's) saying (without any music in the >background): GENTLEMEN! ATTENTION! Then the song kicks off. > Now, I'm not a french schollar by any means, but the way >"attention" is pronounced sounds mighty French to me. In some kind >of semi-phonetics it would be "attension" (that's with an "s"). > Bonjour, I am a french-speaking "surfer". I know this version of "The Model" and you are abslolutley right, the word "ATTENTION" IS surely pronounced in French. I don't know who's speaking but I know that Ralf Hutter speaks an excellent French. A few years ago, I saw him on an Belgian TV speaking a perfect French. Emmanuel ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:35:44 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Trancewerk Express / Trance Europe Express Really-From: Lars Nellemann Hi I recently obtained the "Trancewerk Express Vol.1" A tribute to Kraftwerk - I don't think the tracks have been posted before - so here they are: 1.41 Intro 8.05 Music Non Stop: Exis 01 4.41 The Robots: Teler's 7.41 Home Computer: Audio Science 9.02 Metropolis: Reverse Pulse Envelope 4.09 Elektric Cafe: Purttiv J. 6.04 Computerworld: Meedom & Wind 8.05 Radioactivity: Ultravision 7.29 Trans Europe Express: Audio Science 7.52 Autobahn: Kirk 3.32 Model: Ikon Have anybody heard of any of these bands before? Or are all the versions, as we suspected with trans slovenian Express, actually done by the same people!! The Liner notes says nothing about the participating bands. BTW Off topic (almost) If you are into trance - check out the splendid compilations "Trance Europe Express" and Trance America Express - TEX 4 is just out, and they mention Kraftwerk as off course inspiration for their name - but also for the music the discs contain. Each is a double CD with a 190 page booklet. Theybare sold rather cheap by mail order - for more info check out their homepage http://www.demon.co.uk/volume, or mail tex@volume.demon. co.uk, Their are btw the makers of the brilliant indie compilations "Volume" - the ones with a fish on the cover. - -- ******************************************************************** * Lars Nellemann * I'm confused - Like a thirsty * * nelleman@biobase.dk * baby in a topless bar ! * * National Hospital of Denmark * ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 13:45:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: The Model Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA thank you Emmanuel, My concerns with a french model is now over - ha ha ha! |========================================| | Martin Olsson af Njurunda | | | | e-mail lmo1654@lynx.apsu.edu | | | | Rendez-vous, am Champs Elyses | | Verlass Paris am Morgen mit dem T.E.E. | |========================================| ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #329 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #330 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Friday, 11 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 330 Re: Sellafield concert Re: Florian Schneider collaboration Re: Sellafield concert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:09:32 MET+100 Subject: Re: Sellafield concert Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA wrote: > Now, there wouldn't *just happen* to be a bootleg video of this entire > concert would there? If I remember from the "Sellafield" video, there > seem to be quite a lot of reporters running around with cameras etc, > and knowing U2's fixation for video cameras at the time - it would almost > surprice me if there wasn't som kind of boot mad from this event... I don't know if there is a bootleg video from the Sellafield concert, but a bootleg audio tape does exist. Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > Just curious, they have played the model, TDF and Numbers like the original > versions or something more like the "the mix" songs? I think I would hate > listening to a version of The Model with a "do-it-yourself-within-five-minutes" > dance beat looping in the background, IMHO the music is perfect as it is (or > as it was). "The Model" was almost identical to the original album version, "Tour de France" was slightly altered, but still close to the original, "Numbers" was heavily remixed. "The Model" and "Tour de France" were the same versions they've played during their 1991 European tour. "Numbers" was also close to the 1991 version, but one or two minutes shorter. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:28:28 MET+100 Subject: Re: Florian Schneider collaboration Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > >>What is the track's recording date? If it was recorded before >>1974, it is > probably a different Florian Schneider, because >>our" Florian was usually > credited with his full name >>"Florian Schneider-Esleben" on pre-1974 > recordings. > > no this was released in 1985. so.... what do you think now..... Hm, it seems that it's the same Florian Schneider as on the "Les immer essen" LP, which was also released in 1985 (see digest no. 238). And, referring to the "Tilch" encyclopedia, this is not the Florian Schneider from Kraftwerk. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 07:51:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Sellafield concert Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA Klaus, Continuing on the topic of Sellafield , you said there was an audio bootleg made. What is the name of this boot? What is the quality of it? How long is the boot? Info about sleeve designs? Can I get all this info (about boots) of the net somewhere? |========================================| | Rendez-vous, auf dem Champs-Elyses | | Verlass Paris am Morgen mit dem T.E.E. | | | | Martin Olsson af Njurunda | | lmo1654@lynx.apsu.edu | |========================================| ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #330 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #331 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 12 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 331 Sellafield bootleg tape Re: Sellafield bootleg tape Re: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 10:19:43 MET+100 Subject: Sellafield bootleg tape Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > Continuing on the topic of Sellafield, you said there was an audio > bootleg made. Well, nothing professional, it's just an "ordinary" live tape, probably recorded by a fan in the audience. I've noticed it in a livetape mailorder list. > What is the name of this boot? No special name, just the concert details. > What is the quality of it? Average, not too bad, but there are certainly better Kraftwerk live recordings available. > How long is the boot? 40 minutes (the complete Kraftwerk part of the concert) > Info about sleeve designs? red colour, amateur design, based on photocopies from the "Electric Cafe" and "The Mix" album sleeves. I wouldn't call it one of the "essential" Kraftwerk live recordings, but the tape is partially interesting because of the strange concert atmosphere (almost no cheers, applause etc. from the audience) and the changes in comparison to the 1991 tour, where they performed the songs in a different running order and in longer versions. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 07:49:47 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Sellafield bootleg tape Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA This was a hard one to get over. Klaus, I've got one final question: Is the Sellafield Concert availible on CD, or some other form of digital aural medium? |========================================| | Rendez-vous, auf dem Champs-Elyses | | Verlass Paris am Morgen mit dem T.E.E. | | | | Martin Olsson af Njurunda | | lmo1654@lynx.apsu.edu | |========================================| ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:40:12 EDT Subject: Re: Really-From: (Chris LaRose) On 20 Jul 1995 16:21:28 GMT you wrote: >Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) > >Yo.. >I found a Kraftwerk LIVE in Solna(Stockholm) 2cd box, (which I offcourse >bought).. It was more than Nice.. >Wondering: Anyone here that was on that one (Solna -91) or any other of their >Live appearances.. >Someone knows if they're gonna do it again??. soon?? > >//Martin > >********** Sent via the StingNet (Sweden) UUCP Gateway ************* > > How's the quality? Where can I get one? ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #331 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #332 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Sunday, 13 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 332 Bootleg Tapes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 10:52:27 -0400 Subject: Bootleg Tapes Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-11 16:49:31 EDT, you write: >How's the quality? Where can I get one? since we are on the subject of bootlegs. Does anyone here want to trade tapes? I have a Kraftwerk boot from Edinbugh Playhouse in 1991, a radio show from 1976 & Schone Neue Welt. thanks, Nick ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #332 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #333 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Monday, 14 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 333 Studio Bootlegs? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:58:52 -0400 Subject: Studio Bootlegs? Really-From: Curryous@aol.com I know this is highly unlikely but does anyone know of any studio bootleg KW material. I know that there is an unreleased albums worth of material recorded by the Schneider / Rother / Dinger version of KW any ideas? ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #333 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #334 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, 15 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 334 Re: Sellafield bootleg tape Re: Bootleg Tapes Re: Bootleg Tapes "The Mix" Makes Sense NC Kraftwerk fans? Galaxina 7000 Kraftwerk singles auction Re: "The Mix" Makes Sense Re: NC Kraftwerk fans? Galaxina 7000 Re: "The Mix" Makes Sense ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:50:15 MET+100 Subject: Re: Sellafield bootleg tape Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > This was a hard one to get over. Klaus, I've got one > final question: Is the Sellafield Concert availible on CD, or some > other form of digital aural medium? I don't think so, though it's impossible to be sure with bootleg material. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:55:32 MET+100 Subject: Re: Bootleg Tapes Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > since we are on the subject of bootlegs. Does anyone here want to trade > tapes? I have a Kraftwerk boot from Edinbugh Playhouse in 1991, a radio show > from 1976 Is this "Here's To Veterans" (excerpts of the "Radioactivity" LP) or a different radio show? ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:58:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Bootleg Tapes Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-14 03:56:31 EDT, you write: >Is this "Here's To Veterans" (excerpts of the "Radioactivity" LP) or >a different radio show? No I don't think so. It has Kommetenmelodie 1 & 2 on it & another song that I can't identify. It is from feb 28 1976 in Paris, France (that was what I was told at least) Nick ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:38:35 EST Subject: "The Mix" Makes Sense Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Fellow Kraftwerkians, I'm a huge Kraftwerk fan and I've been following the posts on this mailing list for some time now. I notice that there are many KW fans who are very discontent with the material from 1991's "The Mix". Why is this? I love the classic KW sound on albums like TEE, Radio-Activity, and Man-Machine just as much as anyone else out here, but I think there is much to be said positively for 'The Mix'. KW's music has always progressed along with science and the times, so I feel that 'The Mix' made a fine next step in their development. The re-made versions of 'Computerlove', 'Radio-Activity', and 'Home Computer' are by no means shabby, and would hold up superbly in any dance club. Would the original 1981 'Computerlove' pound away at the dance floor? This is not to knock the original either. KW's message is still there, but we must accept that the music, like life, is changing. Just look at the radical jump from KW1 and KW2 to the Radio-Activity album! Kraftwerk is just as great as they always were, and we may continue to learn from each successive release. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill P.S. - Similarly, I feel that "Electric Cafe" also did not deserve the horrible response it got out here. "The Telephone Call" remains one of my all-time favoritw KW tracks, and I place it right up there on my "KW Best" list along with songs like 'Kristallo', 'The Robots', 'Radioland', and many others. :) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:36:48 -0400 Subject: NC Kraftwerk fans? Galaxina 7000 Really-From: NewWaveNow@aol.com Hi my name is Barbara and I am new to the list! I just started getting into Kraftwerk about a year ago---They have influenced my music a lot---Any musicians I can collaborate with from NC cause I am moving to Chapel Hill---the 2nd of Sept! Anyone and Everyone interested in chatting please email me! I also love Breakdancing music!!! Barbara (galaxina 7000) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:36:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Kraftwerk singles auction Really-From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) Kraftwerk Singles Auction: all 7 " promo/dj copies Radioactivity mono/stereo Capitol PRO-8305 with p/s M- Pocket Calculator/Dentaku Warner Bro WBS 49723 yellow vinyl w poly. p/s M- Autobahn/Morganspaziergang Vertigo VE-203 white label G- will sell to highest bid by Aug 20 e-mail bids to saxmania@ripco.com also have extra copy of Radioactivity as above but in VG condition and no p/s - -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Saul Smaizys^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _ \/ _ _ _ \ / S /=\/\ | |-| e R /-\ P | phone = 312/907/8229 web page http:/pages.ripco.com:8080/~saxmania p r a c t i c i n g s a f e s a x s i n c e 1 9 6 9 ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: "The Mix" Makes Sense Really-From: Ravi Baskaran I haven't heard The Mix but I agree with you about Electric Cafe. The first side is so-so, but the Telephone Call, Sex Object, and Electric Cafe are first-rate! Especially TC! - -Ravi What's a battle? - Ralph Wiggum - ---- Ravi Baskaran baskaran@bb.iu.net rb4606@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:50:20 +0200 Subject: Re: NC Kraftwerk fans? Galaxina 7000 Really-From: Aart-Jan van Amerongen At 01:36 PM 8/14/95 -0400, you wrote: >Hi my name is Barbara and I am new to the list! Hello Barbara! I.... am Aart-Jan, have been on the list for several years now, and I live in the heart of the Netherlands in the city of Utrecht. Needless to say that I am a great Kraftwerk fan. When I bought my first KW-album (electric cafe) back in '87, the seller was absolutely amazed when I bought the KW CD along with the 9th symphony of Schubert! It was definitely outside his scope. I guess you will get lots of mail after your posting, so I will keep it short for now. See 'ya! Regards, Aart-Jan. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 00:55:03 -0400 Subject: Re: "The Mix" Makes Sense Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-14 15:58:47 EDT, you write: >I haven't heard The Mix but I agree with you about Electric Cafe. The >first side is so-so, but the Telephone Call, Sex Object, and Electric >Cafe are first-rate! Especially TC! same here. The Mix has a special place in my heart. It was the first Kraftwerk album I heard. I got it for $2.00 from my CD club. I had heard that they were a major influence in "industrial" music, so i decided to try it out. Then I heard the original versions of the song. Man, even better! The "newer, digital" album just can't satisfy me, but it still has that special little place in my heart! Now I am working on the german language versions, can anyone help? Nick ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #334 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #335 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, 16 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 335 German versions (was Re: "The Mix" Makes Sense) The First Synth-Bass Usage Techno tribute to KW is overdue Re: Techno tribute to KW is overdue Re: Techno tribute to KW is overdue Re: "The Mix" Makes Sense ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:34:40 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: German versions (was Re: "The Mix" Makes Sense) Really-From: wisse@nlr.nl (E. Wisse) > same here. The Mix has a special place in my heart. It was the first > Kraftwerk album I heard. I got it for $2.00 from my CD club. I had heard that > they were a major influence in "industrial" music, so i decided to try it > out. Then I heard the original versions of the song. Man, even better! The > "newer, digital" album just can't satisfy me, but it still has that special > little place in my heart! Now I am working on the german language versions, > can anyone help? > > Nick Generally I like the German versions better than the English ones. First of all their accents get on my nerves. Secondly the texts seem to mean something different in German! I have both "Computer World" and "Computerwelt". The texts on the German version seem harder, more critical. Compare: Interpol and Deutsche Bank, FBI and Scotland Yard Business, Numbers, Money, People Computerworld With: Interpol und Deutsche Bank, FBI und Scotland Yard Flensburg und das BKA, Haben unsere Daten da Nummern, Zahlen, Handel, Leute There's something sinister about "them" having our data. Also: Computerwelt Denn Zeit ist Geld In fact the whole Computerwelt version actually has a text, the English version is just a sequence of words. On "Man-machine" "The Model" seems much more innocent than "Das Model". Compare: She's posing for consumer products now and then For every camera she gives the best she can With: Sie stellt sich zu Schau fuer das Konsumprodukt Und wird von millionen Augen angeguckt The German text is about exploitation, about selling oneself, the English one is just about a pretty girl. I'm sorry I can't give you any tips about where to get them but do get them. There like different songs. If you want to make more comparisons between the English and German versions you can check: http://www.sara.nl/Rick.Jansen/Kraftwerk/kraftwerk-e.html That's where I got those texts from :-) _________________________________________________________________________ wisse@nlr.nl ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:20:47 EST Subject: The First Synth-Bass Usage Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Fellow Robots, If I am not mistaken, I believe that the song "Kristallo" is the very first Kraftwerk track to feature the use of the moog-like synth-bass sound patch. Those of you who have the "Ralf & Florian" album will recall this track in which the synth-bass sound fades up and then pans back and forth as it fluctuates between bass and treble. Since then, the synth-bass sound has become the main staple of synth-pop, dance, and industrial music worldwide. Since "R&F" was recorded in 1973, I was wondering if anyone knows if "Kristallo" was the first recorded song to ever feature this sound. Thanx. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill P.S. - Kraftwerk themselves had continued to use the synth-bass sound patch on most of their material since "R&F". Catch it on songs like "Autobahn", "The Robots", "Radio-Activity", "Hall Of Mirrors", and, oh hell - practically everything! "We are the robots..." ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:04:30 +0800 (U) Subject: Techno tribute to KW is overdue Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." I recently picked up a cheapo 3 CD box of various international Techno bands. Most of the songs use either a direct KW sample or very similar sounds and rythms. I know that copying KW is in itself a form of acknowlegemnet or tribute but I think it's high time that the Major Techno based bands record a Kraftwerk tribute. The Trance (Trancewerk express) and Industrial/Thrash (for lack of a better term- Trans Slovenia Express) genres have officially recognized KW as an influence with their Tribute compositions but Techno, the musical style most closely related to Kraftwerk hasen't done so. At least I know of no Techno tributes. Anyone else share the same thoughts? Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 12:35:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Techno tribute to KW is overdue Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-15 11:01:13 EDT, you write: >Anyone else share the same thoughts? > practically every techno album is a mini-tribute to Kraftwerk! Anyways I was recently listening to some of my CD's & found 2 kraftwerk samples. One in Ministry's "Dream Song" from "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" It plays the end of "Numbers" on a repeated loop for most of the song! Then another one I found was in Pop Will Eat Itselfs "Menofearthereaper" from "Dos Didos Mis Amigo" it has a sample of "Boing Boom Tschak" for a few minutes. It so weird hearing pieces of their songs while listening to a CD, you just pick it out & it's like the only thing you hear on the cd now! Anyone else get that feeling? Nick ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Techno tribute to KW is overdue Really-From: "Francis X. Connor" Does anyone listen to Greater Than One? They drink from the KW well a number of times, but most notably their cut "Alpha 5" from _G-Force_ which is composed almost entirely of KW samples. (I'm not sure of the songs right away--but I can check if yer interested). Also, "Joy" by Psychic TV opens with that "one,two,three,four" in German--I think that appears in a couple of PTV songs. Meat Beat Manifesto and Front Line Assembly have used them too. It's true--so many bands sample them, and I'd like to see some industrial bands come together and do a KW tribute (I'm sick of only the "trance" bands covering them!!!) Peace, Fran *********************************************************************** Bul al be that he was a philosophre Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre But all that he myghte of his freendes hente, On bookes and on lernynge he it spente... --Geoffery Chaucer, on the life of a grad student. ************************************************************************* Francis X. Connor // English Dept. // George Washington University ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:12:38 -0400 Subject: Re: "The Mix" Makes Sense Really-From: Curryous@aol.com I agree with you to a certain extent, Scott. For me both EC and The Mix were very nice however they were just this side of perfect which had never happened before with "the boys" The world had finally caught up with them!! Russ Curry ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #335 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #336 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Thursday, 17 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 336 Wolfgang Fluer Re: Wolfgang Fluer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:42:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: Wolfgang Fluer Really-From: Kevin Busby I received some email from a friend recently which said:- | I heard a track on the Mark Radcliffe show yesterday which | contained bits by Wolfgang Flur. I think it is a fairly new thing - can you | enlighten me? I wasn't able to enlighten him other than saying that WF was said to be working as part of the band 'Jamo'. Mark Radcliffe's programme is on BBC Radio 1 - maybe other UK readers heard it? Kevin ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 16 Aug 95 12:48:30 EDT Subject: Really-From: Nicolas.Deakin@bbc.co.uk(Nicolas Deakin) unsubscribe kraftwerk-digest ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:14:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Wolfgang Fluer Really-From: ZENROXY@aol.com i think this might have been brought up already, but wolfgang fleur is a featured drummer on the new mouse on mars album. i think he is only on 1 track though, and i don't even think they were real drums. it might have just been drum programming. david *+* ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #336 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #337 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Friday, 18 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 337 Re: unsubscribe Kraftwerk records for sale The Model/Tour De France Re: The Model/Tour De France ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 17 Aug 95 06:42:21 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe Really-From: "J. Miguel de Tomas Fdez." <100022.1472@compuserve.com> unsubscribe ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:01:24 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Kraftwerk records for sale Really-From: dcakl006@nlmodnet1.mod.nl (ir D. Barth) Hello Kraftwerkians, As I am wanting to share Kraftwerk with other Kraftwerk "addicts", I am going to sell some of my Kraftwerk records. Therefore I made a list with the references to these records. There are quite a lot of records, starting with a promo of Kraftwerk (1). If you are interested, send me an e-mail (but please DON'T REPLY TO THE LIST) with your name and email address. Then I can send you this list. To give everyone a fair chance, I will close the list for subscription at september 8 and use the weekend for the raffle. After that, I will e-mail everyone who wanted one or more of the records. In the list, the procedure and also some indications of postage are given. After 8 september it will be still possible to reply but the chance of getting anything will be smaller. Erik Barth barth@dcakl.army.mod.nl ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:10:27 EST Subject: The Model/Tour De France Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Hey Robots, I was reading some old issues of the KW-Digest in the archives, and I noticed that many KW fans really dislike Cleopatra's release of "The Model", KW's 1975-1978 retrospective. Here's my breakdown of it: I don't hear anything horrible about the quality of the tracks, and I certainly don't find that the last 6 tracks sound any different than the first 5. My only criticism: I would have gone all out and made it a REAL retrospective compilation, not only of the Capitol years' material. I would lose "Metal On Metal" and "Les Mannequins", and add tracks like "Ruckzuck", "Kristallo", and "Autobahn". Also, seeing as how my Kraftwerk collection exists entirely on CD, I do not own a copy of "Tour De France". In fact, I haven't even heard the song yet! If there are enterprising KW fans out there who would be willing to dub me a cassette copy of TDF and/or its mixes, please e-mail me. Much appreciated! Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill "The young man steps into the hall of mirrors..." ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The Model/Tour De France Really-From: OMEGA Hi there! Regarding The Model compilation from Cleopatra, I think it's great. Since I already have all the albums on CD, it's a bonus to get the 7" edits of some songs. I wonder what the complaints were. As for getting Tour de France on CD, I can only hope that WEA does a similar retrospective to cover the Eighties material. The best solution would be a box-set release from Rykodisc -- Kraftwerk songs were brought by more than a single record company, so I'm not sure how expensive it would be to purchase the rights -- which could conceivable contain anything spanning KW's entire history. I know they would do it right. -- Omega - -------------- omega@io.org small sig, eh? - -------------- ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #337 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #338 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 19 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 338 The Model You can learn a thing or two. Capitol Reissues RE: Capitol Reissues Re: Capitol Reissues Re: unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 03:48:03 EST Subject: The Model Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Hey Omega, I believe that the main gripe many KW fans and list members had with 'The Model' was the sound quality of this CD. They said that as you listen to the CD, the sound quality gets progressively worse. The first five tracks are supposedly pretty bad, and the remaining 6 are supposedly horrendous. I don't get it. I'm a musician who's been heavily influenced by KW and I can't hear anything terrible about the sound quality of 'The Model'. Then again, all I have to compare it to are the other Cleopatra re-issued Kraftwerk CDs! ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:58:37 EST Subject: You can learn a thing or two. Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Fellow Kraftwerkians! Hey friends - I've always felt that a person can learn a whole lot from listening to the music of Kraftwerk avidly. I think what I admire most is their conceptualism, for they somehow are able to attain deeper, symbolic meanings from even the most minimalist lyrics. Two of my favorites which demonstrate this are "The Hall of Mirrors" and "Europe Endless". The Kraftwerk listener is bound to learn something new or at least develop a more intense appreciation for science and technology. KW has successfully furthered this idea by taking it a step further and establishing a solid reputation for themselves. Think about it: 'Ruckzuck' was the theme music for the TV show 'Newton's Apple', all about science and technology. Also, I once saw a three-minute live segment on Sesame Street which featured the song 'It's More Fun To Compute'. In fact, I'd bet that Kraftwerk's music has appeared on the Public Broadcasting System (PBS) more than any other "rock" band's. In their music, Kraftwerk has sung the praises of automobiles, railroad trains, home computers, pocket calculators, telephones, neon lights, etc... In addition, they have opened our minds and enlightened us by giving life to mannequins, warning us of the dangers of radio-activity, educating us as to the transformations stardom can have on some people, etc... Kraftwerk is truly and always shall remain one of the most revolutionary bands in music history. They are irreplacable, and we must always appreciate their contributions to our world. HAIL KRAFTWERK! Scott M. Barnhill "The young man stepped into the hall of mirrors..." ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Capitol Reissues Really-From: Lazlo Nibble Looks like some stuff has found its way back into Capitol's hands: 26 Sep Kraftwerk: The Man-Machine (Capitol) 26 Sep Kraftwerk: Trans-Europe Express (Capitol) 26 Sep Kraftwerk: Radio-Activity (Capitol) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:25:23 +0800 (U) Subject: RE: Capitol Reissues Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." >Looks like some stuff has found its way back into Capitol's hands: >26 Sep Kraftwerk: The Man-Machine (Capitol) >26 Sep Kraftwerk: Trans-Europe Express (Capitol) >26 Sep Kraftwerk: Radio-Activity (Capitol) - -- >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) Didn't EMI just re-issue a few KW CD's in both the UK and Germany? Capitol has been re-mastering lately (Pink Floyd). I wonder... Also, I heard from a local dealer that KW is working on releasing something new in the Spring of '96. I'll press him for more details but I doubt he knows anything other than yet another UNKNOWN projected release date of SOMETHING by Kraftwerk. Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:02:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Capitol Reissues Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-18 16:19:12 EDT, you write: > >Also, I heard from a local dealer that KW is working on releasing something >new in the Spring of '96. I'll press him for more details but I doubt he >knows anything other than yet another UNKNOWN projected release date of >SOMETHING by Kraftwerk. That should be right, Computer World in 1981, EC in 1986, Mix in 1991, ??? in 1996. I sense a pattern??????? Nick ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:30:34 -0400 Subject: Re: unsubscribe Really-From: TeckNoboi@aol.com unsubscribe ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #338 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #339 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Sunday, 20 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 339 Planet Rock! Re: Planet Rock! Re: Capitol Reissues Kraftwerk '96. Re: Studio Bootlegs? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:41:03 -0400 Subject: Planet Rock! Really-From: MLAFFY@aol.com Hey...I actually saw the video for Afrikaa Baambata's song Planet Rock, which basically rips off Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express, on Yo! MTV Raps. It was pretty funny seeing all those early '80's type people break-dancing to KW. Matt ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:25:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Planet Rock! Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-19 13:00:55 EDT, you write: >Hey...I actually saw the video for Afrikaa Baambata's song Planet Rock, which >basically rips off Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express, on Yo! MTV Raps. It was >pretty funny seeing all those early '80's type people break-dancing to KW. That was the coolest video I have ever seen ;) I was just flipping channels & saw it. I wish I taped it. That is prolly the only time MTV will play it! Nick ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:10:09 -0400 Subject: Re: Capitol Reissues Really-From: Curryous@aol.com I have fairly trustworthy friend who says he spoke with Florian Schneider about two years ago and he said they were working on something new with some kind of global village concep (vaguely described)t. I've also hear that labels are bidding to sign them in Germany. Whether or not any of this is true I don't know but it's exciting to think that it might be! Russ C. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 23:03:27 EST Subject: Kraftwerk '96. Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Fellow robots, There's been lots of speculation going around regarding the possibility of a new Kraftwerk release in the spring of '96. This hype is typical, but let's suppose for a moment that there actually IS a new KW album coming. What will they be writing about this time? You would think that a band who's so ahead of technological times would be writing about cyberspace and virtual reality, but I do not forsee this for KW. They have always intrigued me by celebrating the technologies which were once regarded as "modern" but are now taken for granted. They have written about phones, cars, trains, and calculators in a time when we have far surpassed these items with super-computers and solar-powered vehicles. I can appreciate this because we make constant, daily use of these "old" technologies and very seldom pay them their due respects. Human beings have become so damn lazy! We should have known it would take Kraftwerk to keep life in perspective! :) Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill "By pressing down a special key..." ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 02:07:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Studio Bootlegs? Really-From: ZENROXY@aol.com here is a tracklisting for a bootleg i picked up recently. i'm not sure if it has been mentioned before, but i figured it would be pertinent to recent posts as it has 2 versionsof tour de france on it!!! kraftwerk-toccata electronica 1.computer world-(robotron-mix) 5:40 2. tour de france(orig.1983 kevorkian ext.12"mix)6:48 3.techno pop (1983 version) 4:37 4. metropolis (machine-version) live utrecht 10.12.81 5:35 5. the model (catbonic mix) 5:17 6. neon lights (ton-up mix) 5:23 7. pocket calculator (east-west mix) 5:20 8. zehn kleine negerlein 4:46 9. radioactivity (kevorkian 12"remix) 7:26 10. (demo) die roboter (special german kling-klang-remix)3:45 11. les mannequins(orig.1978 ext.french remix)6:04 12. dentaku(orig. 1981 ext-remix) 5:08 13. tour de france (orig.1983 german kling-klang version)6:45 14.stratovarious (live bremen 21.6.71) 5:38 (taken from a japan-only-cd-release these titles are typed out exactly as they were on the sleeve. i'm not sure what a couple of these are, like some of the remixes. i think they might be some of those "bedroom-studio remixes). the live version sounds nothing like what i remember of the original. overall it is the best(non-concert) kraftwerk boot i have seen, yet i've only seen 4. david *+* ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #339 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #340 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Monday, 21 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 340 Record shops in Duesseldorf KW and break dancing Ralf Hutter's 49th. The Capitol Years ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 16:24:56 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Record shops in Duesseldorf Really-From: Lars Nellemann Hi I'm going to spend a week in Duesseldorf in a short while, I don't think I'll track down the Kling-Klang studios, although my hotel is close to the railway station. I will, however, try to hunt down good record stores - and that's were you can help (or the german part of the listmembers). Does anybody know good places for buying records in Duesseldorf? If you do please mail me with a name or a short description, and please mail me personally. Thanks in advance Lars Nellemann - -- ******************************************************************** * Lars Nellemann * I'm confused - Like a thirsty * * nelleman@biobase.dk * baby in a topless bar ! * * National Hospital of Denmark * ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 12:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: KW and break dancing Really-From: "Eric J. Hansen" > Really-From: MLAFFY@aol.com > > Hey...I actually saw the video for Afrikaa Baambata's song Planet Rock, which > basically rips off Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express, on Yo! MTV Raps. It was > pretty funny seeing all those early '80's type people break-dancing to KW. I just got home from a rave in Boston, MA. They played alot of house with samples that were recongizable KW, Yellow and AON. As *luck* would have it, though, they played Tour De France - in its entirety. It sounded like a remix since there were some additional beats on top (anyone have any ideas?) Anyways, there was *alot* of breakdancing going on and people went bananas when TDF came on! (well, I did anyways...) I don't know of any clubs or bars where you can go and see breakdancing, but it sure is alive and kickin' in the underground music scene. BTW - any [net/V]ravers out there? - -Eric - -- || Eric J. Hansen ................ http://www.worldmachine.com/users/hansen || SW Developer / Worldmachine Technologies ......... eric@worldmachine.com ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 23:59:45 EST Subject: Ralf Hutter's 49th. Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Hey folks, By the time you all receive this post, it will lose most of its flavor, for I was just informed that today, August 20th, is the 49th birthday of Ralf Hutter! I'm not sure if this is accurate info, although I cannot imagine why anyone would be misleading regarding this subject matter. I was just surprised because if it is his birthday, I would expect someone out here to have posted this already! Take care people, and if the 'rumor' is true, Happy Birthday Ralf! Even if it's not true, happy birthday anyway. :) Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill "Interpol and Deutsche Bank - F.B.I. and Scotland Yard..." ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:13:03 EST Subject: The Capitol Years Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Robots, While at Tower Records today here in N.Y.C., I finally found the Kraftwerk 3-CD boxed set comprising 'The Capitol Years' which has been distributed by Cleopatra. The going price was $45. Even putting the price aside, I could not bring myself to find any valid reason for purchasing this other than for a collector's item. It seems to me that anyone who already owns the Cleopatra re-issues of Radio-Activity, TEE, and Man-Machine would be much better off avoiding this one because you'll be getting an exact duplicate of what you already have. I've heard that the real incentive to buy this boxed set comes from the booklet included with the package which supposedly contains lots of juice KW info fans can appreciate. I'm not trying to knock the concept behind the boxed set, but they're still not selling me on this one. I would appreciate it if someone who owns this item would inform me as to whether or not this complementary booklet contains any info which has not been made accessible already. Thanx. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill "From station to station, back to Dusseldorf city..." ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #340 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #341 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, 22 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 341 Re: The Capitol Years The Captol Years Re: Kraftwerk '96. Re: The Capitol Years RE: Capitol Reissues Re: The Capitol Years RE: Capitol Reissues 3cd box set and Razormaid bootleg RE: Capitol Reissues ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:08:31 -0400 Subject: Re: The Capitol Years Really-From: Curryous@aol.com Hi Scott: Yes, a friend sent me the boxed set. There is really no true reason to purchase it if you have the CDs. The only slight benefits are a sticker inside and a well-written essay but the layout and design are not exeptional by any means. I hope some day for digitally edited versions of the original recordings with a nice layout, perhaps period photos, and (god forbid) extra tracks. Russ Curry "one-two" ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:33:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: The Captol Years Really-From: "W. Keenan" i bought the 3 cd box of this for around $24 at my local record shop since it was cheaper than paying $12.99 x 3 for the individual discs... the booklet is interesting and quite long with a (from comparing to the ones i've seen on the net) accurate discography... if you've read the FAQ (and i know you all have), you're not missing too much... oh yeah, the box also comes with a 2.5 x 2.5 inch sticker that is a reprint of the 'radioactivity' cover with 'kraftwerk' replacing the word 'radio...' and a lackluster poster that is basically an advertisement for the cleopatra reissues... btw - the box is marked limited to 5,000 copies and i've seen at least ten copies in the iowa city (pop. 50,000 when school is up) area and at least one copy in almost every record shop i've been to in the past few years... i do not think this is a very limited set... ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 21 Aug 1995 16:43:19 GMT Subject: Re: Kraftwerk '96. Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) Well.. In an interview in a Swedish magazine called RELEASE (-92) they said that they've got material for a new release, but not interests from the other members, but they said MAYBE.. I think they're about to release another MIX (2-3 CD) with new versions of all years, and then a something, with the theme: Space or Information.. //Martin ********** Sent via the StingNet (Sweden) UUCP Gateway ************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 21 Aug 1995 16:34:18 GMT Subject: Re: The Capitol Years Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) I dont own it by myself, but I've checked it out at the Mega Store in Stockholm, and it's just crap!!!!! All info is available at the Unofficial Infobahr (Kraftwerk WWW Page), but there's one thing of value in the package: a Radio-Activity Sticker... hheheheheh.. Send me $50 and I'll buy you Kraftwerk Non Stop (Live from Solnahallen, Stockholm, Sweden (2cd) Including traxx: CD 1 Intro Numbers Computer World Home Computer Computerlove The Model Tour de France Autobahn CD 2 Radioactivity Trans Europe Express Abzug Metal on Metal The Robots Pocket Calculator Music non stop //Martin Very cool and long versions of Autobahn, ********** Sent via the StingNet (Sweden) UUCP Gateway ************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 12:47:59 +0800 (U) Subject: RE: Capitol Reissues Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." >Really-From: Lazlo Nibble >Looks like some stuff has found its way back into Capitol's hands: >26 Sep Kraftwerk: The Man-Machine (Capitol) >26 Sep Kraftwerk: Trans-Europe Express (Capitol) >26 Sep Kraftwerk: Radio-Activity (Capitol) - -- >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) Lazlo, What was your source on this? Do you know if it will be just re-issues or re-masters? I'm DYING for someone to do a serious remaster of the original tapes of KW recordings. The sound on the original tapes (whoever has them, KW or the record companies) must be incredible! Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 20:12:41 MET+100 Subject: Re: The Capitol Years Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > I would appreciate it if someone who owns this item > would inform me as to whether or not this complementary booklet > contains any info which has not been made accessible already. Thanx. The booklet is really unimportant. All the information is already available through the "Man, Machine and Music" book by Pascal Bussy. It's definitely not worth to buy the box only because of the booklet. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 12:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Subject: RE: Capitol Reissues Really-From: Lazlo Nibble >>26 Sep Kraftwerk: The Man-Machine (Capitol) >>26 Sep Kraftwerk: Trans-Europe Express (Capitol) >>26 Sep Kraftwerk: Radio-Activity (Capitol) > > What was your source on this? Do you know if it will be just re-issues or > re-masters? The info is from ICE (International CD Exchange, my favorite CD newsletter; they get their info direct from the labels). I don't know if any remastering will be done. I'm just happy to finally see them out of Cleopatra's hands again. It's also nice to see that Capitol thinks these are worth keeping in print. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 15:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 3cd box set and Razormaid bootleg Really-From: John Richey The 3CD box set is not worth it, however it does have a cool booklet with discog, nothing more than the Bussy book though. A worthless poster, and a cool Radioactivity sticker. A friend of mine found this bootleg, with all the Razormaid mixes: (any comments) You may be able to call Magic Mountain Music in Ketchum and talk to Craig. They have a bootleg or as they call it "IMPORT" distributor. (208)726-8383. The album is KRAFTWERK: "The Remix"(Werking On It), from On It Music, CD 049, 1993. It's all DDD of course, good sound quality. John ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 16:52:35 +0800 (U) Subject: RE: Capitol Reissues Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." >>>26 Sep Kraftwerk: The Man-Machine (Capitol) >>>26 Sep Kraftwerk: Trans-Europe Express (Capitol) >>>26 Sep Kraftwerk: Radio-Activity (Capitol) >> >> What was your source on this? Do you know if it will be just re-issues or >> re-masters? >I don't know if any remastering will be done. I'm just happy to finally >see them out of Cleopatra's hands again. It's also nice to see that Capitol >thinks these are worth keeping in print. But isn't Cleopatra a division of Capitol? And yes, it's nice to see them re-issued but a re-mastering would be a more deserved treatment of the recordings. (IMHO) Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #341 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #342 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Thursday, 24 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 342 X-Mailer: FIMail V0.9d Trancewerk Express Re: Trancewerk Express ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 12:10:02 GMT Subject: X-Mailer: FIMail V0.9d Really-From: Paul unsubscribe kraftwerk-digest ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:29:52 EDT Subject: Trancewerk Express that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: "YEDID,GABRIEL,MR" I saw this thing in one of the techno record bins at one of the downtown music stores here in Montreal. Is it decent stuff (i.e. can one still recognize the original tunes in there and is it all tastefully done) or should I not bother considering it next time I see it? (I thin k it was volume one, is there another yet?) Gabe ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:43:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Trancewerk Express that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-23 23:43:23 EDT, you write: >I saw this thing in one of the techno record bins at one of the >downtown music stores here in Montreal. Is it decent stuff (i.e. can >one still recognize the original tunes in there and is it all tastefully >done) or should I not bother considering it next time I see it? (I thin >k it was volume one, is there another yet?) yeah, it's pretty good if you like trance/ambient music, I do so I definatly picked it up! I like it better than trans-slovian. Nick ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #342 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #343 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Friday, 25 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 343 Trans Slovenia and TranceWerk Re: Trancewerk Express Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" Trancewerk Xpress Metropolis. Giorgio Moroder/Einzelganger Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" Transwerk Cat. # Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" Re: Giorgio Moroder/Einzelganger Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Trans Slovenia and TranceWerk that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: kzim@math.ucr.edu (christopher zimmerman) I've seen several messages on this list recently singing the praises of Trancewerk Express Vol. I - A Tribute to Kraftwerk. Of course, being interested in All Things Kraftwerk, I went ahead and bought a copy. Maybe there's just something wrong with me, but I think all the raves (no pun intended) for this disc are unwarranted. This disc just isn't that big a deal. Only two tracks even come close to making me think of Kraftwerk (The Model and Computer World) - as opposed to nearly all the tracks of Trans-Solvenia Express. IMHO, TSE is miles ahead of TWE...is this just my failure to transcend the boundaries between the genres that each (supposedly) represents, or do others share my opinion? Christopher Robin Zimmerman ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:07:44 MET+100 Subject: Re: Trancewerk Express that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > Is it decent stuff (i.e. can one still recognize the original tunes > in there hardly > and is it all tastefully done) that's subjective, but I wouldn't say so. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:34:32 +0100 Subject: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: Erik Knain Recently, I heard a Donna Summer song called "I feel love" that was really astonishing. It sounded so kraftwerkisch! The song was recorded in 1977 and made by Giorgio Moroder (who BTW also created the Bowie-song "Cat poeple", and "Flashdance"). The drum sound and beat are very similar to "Metropolis" on "Die Mensch-Machine". The mechanical synth sound of "Metropolis" is also present. And all this a year before "Die Mench-Manchine! In short, I find it hard to belive that these similarities are just accidental, "Die Mench Machine" is usually regarded as very much ahead of its time. Therefore, does anyone know if there were any meetings or collaboration between KW and Moroder around 1977? (Pascal Bussy does not mention Moroder in his book.) - - Erik Knain ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 15:10:54 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: Lars Nellemann Speaking of Goirgio Moroder - He has recently done some remixes for the German Industrial Group KMFDM - he remixed the track Jezebel from their latest CD "Nihil" - -- ******************************************************************** * Lars Nellemann * I'm confused - Like a thirsty * * nelleman@biobase.dk * baby in a topless bar ! * * National Hospital of Denmark * ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:17:29 EDT Subject: Trancewerk Xpress that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: "Richard V. Paiement" >Subject: Trancewerk Express Could someone please post the catalogue number of this item, so I can order it. Thanks, ************************************************************** Richard V. Paiement Internet: Hull Quebec CANADA ac925@freenet.carleton.ca ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:03:25 EST Subject: Metropolis. that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Fellow Kraftwerkians, I'm sure that just about each and every one of you is familiar with inspiration which spawned KW's 'Metropolis' from their 1978 "Man-Machine" album. I am of course referring to German director Fritz Lang's 1926 film of the same name. Released only a year after the immortal Rupert Julian silent classic, "The Phantom of the Opera", "Metropolis" far surpassed any and all silent movies of the day. This is what makes it easy to understand KW's interest, not to mention its German national background. For those of you who haven't seen it, I would strongly recommend you find a copy. The film depicts a futuristic society in which man both symbolically and literally becomes a slave to the machines. Man's function in life is ironically to keep the machines alive! This may be the first motion picture to feature a robot, in this case the female robot named Hel. Every so often people re-release this film with a new soundtrack. There was even a version backed entirely by Pat Benetar songs! I wouldn't mind seeing Kraftwerk score this one, including the 'Metropolis' title track of course. Coincidentally, those of you who have copies of Cleopatra's "The Model" CD with the original cover picture of the female mannequin, she bears a close resemblence to Hel. Maybe she's related. :) Robotically Yours, Scott "She's a model and she's looking good..." ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:15:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Giorgio Moroder/Einzelganger that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) " "Recently, I heard a Donna Summer song called "I feel love" that was really "astonishing. "It sounded so kraftwerkisch! The song was recorded in 1977 and made by "Giorgio Moroder (who BTW also created the Bowie-song "Cat poeple", and ""Flashdance"). " The Giorgio Moroder album I really like is Einzelganger. It came out at the same time as Donna Summer's first LP in 1975. It's all electronic and excellent. In a review I wrote about the album, I described it as Kraftwerk played sideways. I'm sure this album is long out of print. Is there anybody else on the list who is fortunate to own a copy of this LP? It's Oasis OCLP 5001. ______________________________________________________________________________ /~(_)~\ /~(_)~\ II====== l =-} saul smaizys saxmania@ripco.com {-= l ======II \_(~)_/ web page=http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~saxmania \_(~)_/ vox 312/907/8229 data:fax 312/907/8521 ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:22:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-08-24 09:21:38 EDT, you write: >Speaking of Goirgio Moroder - He has recently done some remixes for >the German Industrial Group KMFDM - he remixed the track Jezebel from their >latest CD "Nihil" those are some cool remixes, coincidentally one of the remixes is called metropolis! Nick ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:34:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: Curryous@aol.com I've always loved that song. From what I understand Moroder's sound at least paralleled KW's development into electronic pop if it didn't come before. I read an interview with David Bowie in which he said that during the recording of Low Brian Eno came running into the studio one day with a copy of "I Feel Love" in his hand and said, "This is the future of music!"! ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:26:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: Transwerk Cat. # that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA Guten heute, alle leute! Someone asked about the catalogue number for TRANCEWERK, well here it is and more: Catalogue number: CLEO 9605-2 "Trancewerk Express Vol.1" A tribute to Kraftwerk 1.41 Intro 8.05 Music Non Stop: Exis 01 4.41 The Robots: Teler's 7.41 Home Computer: Audio Science 9.02 Metropolis: Reverse Pulse Envelope 4.09 Elektric Cafe: Purttiv J. 6.04 Computerworld: Meedom & Wind 8.05 Radioactivity: Ultravision 7.29 Trans Europe Express: Audio Science 7.52 Autobahn: Kirk 3.32 Model: Ikon The Liner notes says nothing about the participating bands. It's put out by Hypnotic - a division of Cleopatra. I have to give some credit to Lars Nellemann for providing me with this beautiful list. Sincerely, Meeee-trooooo-poliiiiiiiis (dubbee-doo-dum-dum...) |========================================| | Rendez-vous, auf dem Champs-Elyses | | Verlass Paris am Morgen mit dem T.E.E. | | | | Martin Olsson af Njurunda | | lmo1654@lynx.apsu.edu | |========================================| ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:30:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:39:24 CDT Subject: that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: "ext tt" I haven't been on this digest for a few months so I haven't been able to keep u p with anyone who is looking to sell KW albums, especially live projects like N ippon Nummers. Thanx!! - -JL ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 15:14:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Giorgio Moroder/Einzelganger that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: prabhu@cs.umass.edu (Rajesh Prabhu) Hmm, I would really be interested to get my hands on "Einzelganger" -- I like the older Giorgio stuff, but the newer dance stuff is too boring (but I haven't heard all of it). So do K'werkphiles like Giorgio too ? I believe his music is generally considered "good disco", as opposed to the generic 70's stuff ... Also, I remember reading in a Depeche Mode book, that Daniel Miller (the guy who set up Mute ?) was as influenced by Giorgio as by Kraftwerk & Tangerine Dream, if not more ... ObKraftwerk : My first exposure to Kraftwerk was this pirated cassette that had "Man-Machine" on one side, and Giorgio's "From Here To Eternity" on the other side. This was about 1980 back in India, back then western pop music in India was limited to Abba, Boney M, Beatles & a few other groups ... And both of these albums remain favourites to this day ! (One odd feature of this cassette was that it didn't have "Man-Machine" the song on it because they ran out of space on the cassette, so when I got the LP here in the US, it was like a bonus track for me !) - -- Rajesh ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 13:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: Lazlo Nibble > I've always loved that song. From what I understand Moroder's sound at least > paralleled KW's development into electronic pop if it didn't come before. Moroder was getting into synths in the early 1970s -- '73 or '74 at the latest. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 21:54:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: Curryous@aol.com I wonder if anyones knows Moroder's other work from that period. Is it as good and unique as "I Feel Love"? Is any of it on CD? ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #343 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #344 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 26 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 344 Re: Metropolis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 25 Aug 1995 13:49:17 GMT Subject: Re: Metropolis. that says: unsubscribe kraftwerk in the body of the message. Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) Ever since I heard of the film Metropolis from the first time, I've wanted to see it.. Just think about a moment in the Queens video to 'Radio Gaga.',.. It's fantastic.. On Stockholm water festival this year, they show Metropolis at Kulturscenen (The Culture Stage) at Sergelstorg, and I were there.. as background music a swedish Industrial band (don't remember the name.. , just that they called it O.R.O) That played music related to happenings in the movie.. Sometimes i thought i heard tones from KW's Metropolis, but not quite right, but for sure inspirated... So for you dudes who were there: Wasn't it great???.. (Too much smoke from the smoke machines, but... It was not the machines fault.. I SWEAR!!!) ///Robotiqueally Yourzh, Martin Ithz Maor phun tao Qoomphutie Det ar roligare att hacka ********** Sent via the StingNet (Sweden) UUCP Gateway ************* ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #344 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #345 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Sunday, 27 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 345 Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #344 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 16:27:47 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #344 Really-From: Anders Wahlbom On Sat, 26 Aug 1995 kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu wrote: > Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) > > Ever since I heard of the film Metropolis from the first time, I've wanted to > see it.. > Just think about a moment in the Queens video to 'Radio Gaga.',.. It's > fantastic.. > On Stockholm water festival this year, they show Metropolis at Kulturscenen > (The Culture Stage) at Sergelstorg, and I were there.. as background music a > swedish Industrial band (don't remember the name.. > , just that they called it O.R.O) Stands for Organic Revolution Orchestra. They're from Gothenburg... > That played music related to happenings in > the movie.. Sometimes i thought i > heard tones from KW's Metropolis, but not quite right, but for sure > inspirated... So for you dudes who were > there: Wasn't it great???.. (Too much smoke from the smoke machines, but... > It was not the machines fault.. I SWEAR!!!) Well... I think the singer could've been more restrained. For example, when Joh Fredersen [not "John" - he's called "Joh" in the book, and if you look closely at the invitation to the party where Rotwang displays the robot, you'll see it's to "Joh Fredersen". So there.] asks Freder why he went down to the workers' city, he spoils the atmosphere created by the rest of the band by shouting "Why did you go down there?" Not once, but several times! Other songs worked fine with his vocals, like "Stay With The Machine", "Rothwangs Theme" and "The Mediator", I must say. (FYI, Martin, there's a CD single out with four tracks... You might also appreciate their album "Ragamedon.. 2048"; it's rather good, but unlike "Metropolis" it's in Swedish. You can find the lyrics as a binary file on cs.uwp.edu; I uploaded them a couple of days ago...) But Kraftwerk inspired? I don't know... /Anders W. - ----- THIS ADDRESS EXPIRES ON 31 AUGUST! | old address: engh9401@stratus.hgs.se DENNA ADRESS GAR UT 31 AUGUSTI! | (expired since June - don't use) http://www.hgs.se/~hsf95001/ I won't be beat, not in a thousand years ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 15:33:18 CDT Subject: Really-From: "ext tt" I haven't been keeping up with this digest for a few months so could anyone tel l me if there are people looking to sell LIVE KW albums like Nippon Nummers '91 ? Thanx. - -JL ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #345 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #346 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Monday, 28 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 346 Metroplolis and Moroder ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 19:21:47 -0400 Subject: Metroplolis and Moroder Really-From: NDKent@aol.com Since this list has been discussing Moroder, Metrolpolis and Kraftwerk's influence the last couple of days, I thought I'd add some factoids of my own. I feel that Moroder acted as a kind of bridge moving the sounds of German synth music (though not the bands themselves) into the disco-oriented mainstream of the day. An important work not mentioned is his Oscar winning score to MIDNIGHT EXPRESS. This was the first time a synth scored picture won the Oscar. In an issue of AMERICAN FILM from several years later (I think it was right after Vangelis' CHARIOTS OF FIRE won the Oscar, sorry I don't have the date), a couple of soundtrack composers who used synths were interviewed including Moroder. When asked about his influences, he mentioned Kraftwerk and a several other German bands including even Popol Vuh! (A favorite band of mine, but real far from Moroder or Kraftwerk even when they used Moogs). Some quick comments on the dubious Moroder version of Metropolis: In a few years people are going to be playing this version for laughs because of the dated sounding (even when it came out) rock soundtrack. It would have been a thousand times better to get the synchroniation rights to KWs METROPOLIS, get tracking rights Edgar Froese's METROPOLIS from the infamous AGES LP and then track the rest of the film with Klaus Schulze. Most people thought Queen's RADIO GAGA (which I thought was neat) was a tie in to Moroder's release. I do not believe it was. Though I saw no connection to Metropolis the film, I and all my friends liked the song and video. The color was real nice. Holywood silent films were usually tinted, I heard somewhere that German films were not, though I am not certain. I did not mind the subtitles in place of intertitles. The image quality was great execpt for that botched attempt to "restore" the athletic stadium matte shot and the dubious animatic sequences using stills. Now here is what really annoys me. The film METROPOLIS is in the public domain. It seems that Moroder's restoraton priority was to put a lame series of songs he produced into a rock sound track album tie-in and the rumored hidden adgenda of the copyright issue. Again this is rumor, somebody may have better info than I do. There seems to have been some kind of a deal with the East German government, (Ufa studios being in the former East Germany) to assert their ownership to the film. Which after all still has commercial "legs". They seem to have supplied a good condition, but shortened print and the still materials for those dubious semi-animated bits. This is fine for film history purposes, but I question the accuracy of those semi-animated bits in contrast with there supposedly being tons of far more crucial sequences cut from the original release in the 20s that probably still exist. A big irony is that several years before Moroder's Metropolis "restoration", UCLA played a supposedly much more complete print (I hear like 150 minutes long) right in Los Angeles! So much for the motivation of "restoration". By the way Lang's next film, SPIES (1928) premiered in it's original length version in New York last week. I thought I'd introduce myself, I compose soundtracks part time for the last 10 years and have been doing commercial computer graphics for about 8 years full time. Back when COMPUTERWORLD came out, one of my friends would spout "It's more fun to compute" and "Fahrn fahrn auf der Autobahn" when lacking anything else to say. He later became a minister. I think I fully appreciated the humor by 1983 and bought Comuterworld, Autobahn all the Capitol LPs within a couple months. My personal favorite Kraftwerk impersonation is Hajime Tachibana's song BREAK on the YEN MEMORIAL ALBUM - -Nicholas D. Kent (ndkent@aol.com) ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #346 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #347 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, 29 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 347 Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" Kraftwerk Press Articles Mouse on Mars / Wolfgang Fluer Kraftwerk items Kraftwerk Promo Photos German discs New KW Album. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:14:07 +0100 (METDST) Subject: Re: Giorgio Moroder "I feel love" Really-From: Per Goetterup kraftwerk mailing list writes: >Really-From: Curryous@aol.com > >I wonder if anyones knows Moroder's other work from that period. Is it as >good and unique as "I Feel Love"? Is any of it on CD? You can get the 1978 Giorgio Moroder soundtrack to "Midnight Express" that features the song "The Chase" in its original version, a remixed one being on the "From Here To Eternity" compilation. Both of these are available on CD from Casablanca. You can get the Donna Summer album that features "I Feel Love" on CD, but I'm also looking for a CD-version of the ultra-extended (20+ mins!) version of this song! - I have it (12 mins or so of it) on tape from a radio station ca. 1983 but would like it in its entirety without comments from the announcer. - - Per. - -- | Per Gotterup | "The most merciful thing in the | | Student, DIKU (Dept. of Comp. Sci.) | world, I think, is the inability | | University of Copenhagen, Denmark | of the human mind to correlate all | | Internet: ballerup@diku.dk | its contents." - H.P. Lovecraft - | ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:40:43 MET+100 Subject: Kraftwerk Press Articles Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" I'm a serious collector of any Kraftwerk press articles and reviews, so I would like to ask if somebody is interested in a swap of photocopies or originals. I have a large collection of press releases dealing with Kraftwerk (mainly from Germany, the UK, Italy, France, Spain, the Netherlands, Scandinavia and the USA). If you're interested in a swap, I can e-mail my detailed list to you (filesize: ca. 50 kilobytes). If you're not interested in swapping, I will also pay cash for articles I don't have. Everything is of interest. Bibliographic data would also be helpful. Thank you, Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:48:24 MET+100 Subject: Mouse on Mars / Wolfgang Fluer Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > i think this might have been brought up already, but wolfgang > fluer is a featured drummer on the new mouse on mars album. A magazine reports that Mouse on Mars are supported by a guest drummer during their concerts. It is written that this is the same drummer who has a guest appearance on their latest album. Is it possible that this person is Wolfgang Fluer? Or is it the other guest drummer, a certain Dodo Nkishi? Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:52:49 MET+100 Subject: Kraftwerk items Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" I've looked through my Kraftwerk collection and sorted some items out: 3 video tapes with live recordings from 1990/1991, 7 audio tapes with more or less interesting recordings (live, remixes etc.) and ca. 200 photocopies with press articles etc. (several languages). The quality of some of the items is not so good (especially the videos, being high generation copies). I would like to sell these items together for ca. DM 50,00 + postage. Is anyone interested? Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:42:27 MET+100 Subject: Kraftwerk Promo Photos Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" Due to a misunderstanding I've received three original Kraftwerk promo photographs (size: A 4) I'm not interested in: 1) "Man-Machine" era, Kraftwerk on stairs 2) "Electric Cafe" era, computer graphic of band 3) "The Mix" era, robots on stairs All three photos are in mint condition. I don't want to write a nasty complaint to the sender, so I would like to ask if someone else is interested in these photos. The price would be DM 23,00 each plus postage. (Yes, I know that this is quite expensive, if the photos were cheaper, I would keep them to myself...) Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:47:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: German discs Really-From: "W. Keenan" does anyone know of any resource(s) where i can order German language Kraftwerk CD's?? this information would be greatly appreciated!! ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:05:47 EST Subject: New KW Album. Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Fellow Kraftwerkians, I'm glad to see all the discussions I've launched out here regarding Moroder and Metropolis, but this post regards the long-awaited "new" Kraftwerk album. Just last night, I received information from a rather reliable source pertaining to KW's next release. It seems that they have scheduled a release date in November for their next album, but the catch is that the material will not be new. Many of you have speculated on the issue of KW releasing a "Mix Part 2" or something in that vain. I'm not sure if that will be the case, but as for right now I've been informed that their November release will be a compilation of some sort, most likely an official retrospective album, which would imply that the songs will not be remixed. I believe that Billboard magazine has already confirmed this information, so check into in. Maybe one of you will have more luck than I did in getting the full story and details. Take care. Robotically Yours, Scott "I'm the antenna, catching vibrations..." ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #347 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #348 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, 30 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 348 Re: German discs Re: New KW Album. Re: Mouse on Mars / Wolfgang Fluer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:31:17 -0400 Subject: Re: German discs Really-From: Curryous@aol.com Hey Keeny: Talk to Craig Kessler at Real Records downtown. Tell him Russ Curry sent you. Many moons ago he was able to get stuff for me in the past. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:27:16 -0400 Subject: Re: New KW Album. Really-From: Curryous@aol.com Hi Scott: Your information was both exciting and depressing as I had heard through a fairly reliable grapevine that there was actually new, real material coming. I hope you are half right! ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:52:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Mouse on Mars / Wolfgang Fluer Really-From: ZENROXY@aol.com i would gather that the guest drummer on the tour would be the non-kraftwerk guy. i think they would be making a bigger deal out of it if it was wolfgang drumming on the tour. david *+* ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #348 *******************************