From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Historic Movies Date: 01 Nov 1996 10:42:14 +0000 While we're discussing the "Das Stahltier" movie: Has anyone any details about the other original films which were used by Kraftwerk for their concert and promo videos for "Das Model", "Tour de France", "Autobahn", "Trans Europa Express" and "Der Telefon Anruf"? I know that some of the "Autobahn" scenes are from a German film titled "Strassen machen Freude", but I don't have any more details. Anyone else? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nl2057@cnsvax.albany.edu Subject: (kw) Ace Of Base Stink Date: 01 Nov 1996 09:42:51 -0500 (EST) Well I don't think the world is ready for commercialized Swedish Raggae! Too bad they didn't let KW sense of originality influence their music. Nate El Great B-Boy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweckert@ernie.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Thomas Weckert) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:42:41 +0100 Subject: Re: (kw) Elektric equipment >question might already been answered: Is there any cool remixes made by Kar= l >Bartos on these Electronic tracks? (I followed the discussion briefly, and >I got the intention that nobody had heard the remixes.) > On the Electronic album "Raise the..." (I don=B4t know the title anymore) ar= e some songs that Bartos played in Sweden two years ago, but I don=B4t know whether they were ever initially intended as Elektric or Electronic songs. Maybe Bartos timetravelled in 1994 in the DeLorean on the Autobahn into the future to read in the music almanach what songs Electronic is going to play in 1996. It also came to my ears that Bartos has co-written some songs for the new OMD releases, but due to the fact that I am not into OMD, I don=B4t know what=B4s going on there. Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARKZIN_ZG@ZAMIR-ZG.ZTN.APC.ORG (ARKzin Zagreb) Subject: (kw) New Album!? Date: 01 Nov 1996 13:55:00 +0100 Zagreb, 01.11.96 Dear kraftwerk-owner I have not been following discussions last few weeks so I dont know if there were some news about Kraftwerk new album - our favourite subject. So, talking to Jani Novak from LAIBACH on their promotion of new album Jesus Christ Suiperstars he told me that KRAFTWERK will definitely release new album in next four months! As far as we know, on EMI again. He also told me that Florian Schneider was wery reluctant about all the media activities because because he is now father! So, I didnt know, ad I assume that the most of us also dont know that Schneider is a married and now a father of a daughter! Also Jani gave me a hint about LAibach song - Apology of Laibach - on Trans Slovenia Express album - usually considered only not to be cover of some Kraftwerk song! Story goes that it is an unconscious cover - cause the text, written by the late Laibach singer Tomaz Hostnik can easily be singed on the melody and rhythm on "even the greates stars, descover themselves in the looking glass..." . Also original slovenian text mentiones "breaking the looking glass of the world¨ or something like that. So, perhaps in next four months... Dejan Krsic Arkzin megazine for the politics and culture of the civil society via Radio TTT ------------------ Arkzin on the Net: URL: http://pubwww.srce.hr/arkzin Email: arkzin_zg@zamir-zg.ztn.apc.org ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) NEW ALBUM????????????? Date: 01 Nov 1996 14:00:10 EST >>> ...he told me that KRAFTWERK will definitely release a new album in the next four months! As far as we know, on EMI again. <<< What about the US? Elektra again? And, can anyone else corroborate this? Yes, I'm very skeptical. BTW, I saw both Newcleus albums, on vinyl, sealed, for $1 each at Rhino Records in Hyde Park, NY. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) Florian's Married?! *AGH-H*!! Date: 01 Nov 1996 11:19:35 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- Florian's almost 50- what'd he do, marry some Groupie half his age?? -(LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY GAL!!!! ENVY! ENVY! ENVY!)- Actually, I figured they were ALL 'settled' with grown kids by now. It's never 'too late' to start a Family, I guess.... 'anybody got any Crazy Glue? I gotta try to put my broken heart back together- *WAH-H-H*!! Maybe I'll feel better IF/WHEN they Finally do a NEW Album. @%&#-%#@&!! While I'm at it, I'm Still MAD at 2 Live Crew!! They were on some Talk Show a coupla years ago, and they did 2 "songs", appropriately "BLEEPED", and I distinctly heard a repeating Loop of 4-8 bars of M.M behind one of their raps on "Nasty as We Wanna Be". I don't care about the stupid "lyrics", they had a Warning Label and all that, but, how DARE they PROFANE & SACRILEGE KW's MUSIK?!?! I wonder if R&F sued 'em for it? Does anybody know? I know there was a bit of a "tiff" with 'BAM' copying TEE for Planet Rock, but, they settled it and 'BAM' gave due credit and did a LOT to promote KW throughout all the Hip-Hop Houses, etc. That's a very Positive thing. But, 2 Live Crew is all Negative. Oh- "Raise the Pressure" by Electronic- I've heard it's EXCELLENT!! I gotta Get it! Go, Karl! YEAH! Now I can end on a Happy Note. TschuS! ROBOT http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nl2057@cnsvax.albany.edu Subject: Re: (kw) NEW ALBUM????????????? Date: 01 Nov 1996 15:58:02 -0500 (EST) Oh yeah! Where in Hyde Park. I live in Albany. Nate El Great B-Boy On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Adam Schefflan wrote: > >>> ...he told me that KRAFTWERK will definitely release a > new album in the next four months! As far as we know, on EMI again. <<< > > What about the US? Elektra again? And, can anyone else corroborate this? > Yes, I'm very skeptical. BTW, I saw both Newcleus albums, on vinyl, > sealed, for $1 each at Rhino Records in Hyde Park, NY. Peace. > > > > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. > # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Planet Rock Date: 02 Nov 1996 01:16:06 EST >>> I know there was a bit of a "tiff" with 'BAM' copying TEE for Planet Rock, but, they settled it and 'BAM' gave due credit and did a LOT to promote KW throughout all the Hip-Hop Houses, etc. That's a very Positive thing. <<< Actually, Ralf & Florian & Schult share writer's credit and publishing rights with Bam, Arthur Baker, and John Robie. >>> Oh yeah! Where in Hyde Park. I live in Albany. <<< It's on Route 9 across from Video Treats in a strange-looking strip of stores. A small patio is in front and a Woodstock Chicken restaurant is next door. You can't miss it. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ManMachn2@aol.com Subject: (kw) DecTalk Date: 02 Nov 1996 09:52:40 -0500 Can anyone confirm Kraftwerk's use of a DecTalk box for voices on albums such as Electric Cafe, Computer World etc...? The DecTalk box is a box designed to help blind and hearing impared people and can be programmed with 9 voices, utilizing pronunciation, speed, pause, and other features. It responds to typical ASCII code, too. I went to a DecTalk website and heard a little bit of the voice - and I suppose it could have been easy to put it through a vocoder, after programming it's pronunciation features - seeing that I did the same thing with a program called Monologue 8-Bit. Too bad I can't sequence it (still working on that, though). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Stagg <101706.1667@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Re: New KW album "early next year" Date: 03 Nov 1996 20:39:57 EST Here's three bits of information I've picked up or had reconfirmed in the last few days. All are *definitely* bona fide from the people concerned. I fully accept, howver, that whether KW stick to this or not is another matter entirely... Ralf spoke to EMI/Parlophone Business Affairs in the UK sometime during last week - initially regarding the Japanese 'Computerworld' CD reissue. He told them that KW have an album of *completely new material* which EMI UK now have on their schedule for "very early in 1997". Scumek Sabottka of MCT - who is the nearest thing KW have to a Manager - told some colleagues of mine that there will be a new KW album and live dates early next year. Finally, as I've mentioned before: as of this moment KW are still booked to appear at next year's 'Tribal Gathering' event in the UK - presumably late May. I don't blame anyone for having doubts - but personally I really do believe there's something happening this time. STAGGMAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Doepfer MS-404 Date: 04 Nov 1996 09:12:40 +0000 Raveline 11/1996 reports that Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider were somehow involved with the development of the Doepfer MS-404 Midi Analogue Synthesizer. But the wording is quite nebulous, and the article doesn't make clear what their actual input was. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer MS-404 Date: 04 Nov 1996 9:40:18 MET > > > Raveline 11/1996 reports that Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider were > somehow involved with the development of the Doepfer MS-404 Midi > Analogue Synthesizer. But the wording is quite nebulous, and the > article doesn't make clear what their actual input was. > > Klaus Zaepke > Strange, because the 404 haven't had that much sucess in reviews. It seems strange that R & F have been involved in the construction of something that is regarded as not that good. I mean they have also been involved in the construction of the Doepfer A-100 modular system, which is regarded as a real killer. /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) DecTalk Date: 04 Nov 1996 10:21:43 MET > > Can anyone confirm Kraftwerk's use of a DecTalk box for voices on albums such > as Electric Cafe, Computer World etc...? The DecTalk box is a box designed > to help blind and hearing impared people and can be programmed with 9 voices, > utilizing pronunciation, speed, pause, and other features. It responds to > typical ASCII code, too. I went to a DecTalk website and heard a little bit > of the voice - and I suppose it could have been easy to put it through a > vocoder, after programming it's pronunciation features - seeing that I did > the same thing with a program called Monologue 8-Bit. Too bad I can't > sequence it (still working on that, though). > This could be, but I always thought that Kraftwerk only used Eventide vocoders to create their robotic voices. But on the CW album they seem to have used several kinds of 'non-music' equipment, like Casio pocket calculators and so on, so this use of Dec Talk could be true. In an interview with Karl Bartos when asked who did the singing on Esperanto he answers 'Me, Lothar and the little boy from Silicon Valley'. Could somebody explain what type of equipment he refers to by '... little boy from Silicon Valley'? I assume that this 'boy' is singing both on Kraftwerks 'The robots' (1991) and Elektric Musics 'Crosstalk'. /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer MS-404 Date: 04 Nov 1996 13:20:03 +0000 > > Raveline 11/1996 reports that Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider were > > somehow involved with the development of the Doepfer MS-404 Midi > > Analogue Synthesizer. But the wording is quite nebulous, and the > > article doesn't make clear what their actual input was. > > Strange, because the 404 haven't had that much sucess in reviews. It seems > strange that R & F have been involved in the construction of > something As I mentioned, the formulation is not very clear. It was written that the MS-404 was one of the results from theoretical debates between Dieter Doepfer, Ralf Huetter, Florian Schneider and also some other people. So I would guess that their contribution (*if* they actually contributed...) was not essential. > that is regarded as not that good. At least the Raveline review was very favourable. > I mean they have also been involved in the > construction of the Doepfer A-100 modular system I thought that they've only contributed to the development of the vocoder module? Were they also involved with the A-100 system itself? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer MS-404 Date: 04 Nov 1996 14:08:00 MET # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer MS-404 Date: 04 Nov 1996 15:17:34 MET # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subrata Bhattacharjee Subject: (kw) German CD pressing - Man Machine Date: 04 Nov 1996 09:34:37 -0500 I;m not sure if this was intentional, or whether it's some joke played on consumers by twisted mastering engineers, but on my German CD pressing of Man Machine, in the middle of Das Modell, it seems that Florian Schneider snarls the word "correct" (or it's German analogue). As this doesn't appear to happen on my American pressing, am I the victim of some cruel joke ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: (kw) Matten & Wiechers Date: 04 Nov 1996 17:25:11 MET On some Kraftwerk albums there is credits to a certain comapny called Matten & Wiechers. Could somebody give further infomation about this company? /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carlos@eaesp.fgvsp.br (Carlos Jose Quinteiro) Subject: RE: (kw) German CD pressing - Man Machin Date: 04 Nov 1996 14:14:33 -0200 Dear Subrata; >I;m not sure if this was intentional, or whether it's some joke played on >consumers by twisted mastering engineers, but on my German CD >pressing of Man Machine, in the middle of Das Modell, it seems that >Florian Schneider snarls the word "correct" (or it's German analogue). >As this doesn't appear to happen on my American pressing, am I the >victim of some cruel joke ? My German copy also contains this word, in the first time that I heard the song I go afraid!! In Das Modell the vocals are more good-humoured than in the English version The Model, so... Bye!! =8-) Carlos Jose Quinteiro (-8= carlos@eaesp.fgvsp.br EAESP/FGV Brasil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: New KW album "early next year" Date: 04 Nov 1996 12:34:52 -0500 (EST) >Ralf spoke to EMI/Parlophone Business Affairs in the UK sometime during last >week - initially regarding the Japanese 'Computerworld' CD reissue. He told them >that KW have an album of *completely new material* which EMI UK now have on >their schedule for "very early in 1997". Well, while can never confirm these sorts of things, especially with KW, I have a good feeling about it. I've made that known here before, that I definitely feel optimistic about expecting a new KW album sometimes late in '96 or early in '97. >Scumek Sabottka of MCT - who is the nearest thing KW have to a Manager - told >some colleagues of mine that there will be a new KW album and live dates early >next year. I wouldn't write this one off either. It's certainly possible, and with the liklihood of a new album on the way, probable. However, I would not extend that optimism to a very wide ranging scope of venues. For instance and *very* much to my dismay, I don't honestly believe that KW will book any venues in the U.S.A. again. As for the rest, time will tell. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "We start to move...and we break the glass..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ManMachn2@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) DecTalk Date: 04 Nov 1996 14:08:22 -0500 He is probably talking about the DecTalk. KW referred to it as the DLS - Digital Lead Singer - it is a fact that Florian has a box that words can be printed into and spoken out - just like a DecTalk. Someone on the Analogue Heaven mailing list informed me of this box. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spotnik@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) German CD pressing - Man Machine Date: 04 Nov 1996 14:14:22 -0500 That snarled "correct" on "Das Modell" is there, loud and clear, on the German Pressing of Die Mensch Maschine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) YAMO News Date: 04 Nov 1996 20:55:30 +0000 The Information on YAMO at http://www.netville.de/emi/n/spin/spin.html has been updated. The release of the single "Guiding Ray" was apparently cancelled. Release date for a single called "Stereomatic" is January 1st, 1997. The album follows at the end of January. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: (kw) Re: DecTalk Date: 04 Nov 1996 22:02:12 +0100 > [Bartos] is probably talking about the DecTalk. KW referred to it as > the DLS - Digital Lead Singer - it is a fact that Florian has a box > that words can be printed into and spoken out - just like a DecTalk. > Someone on the Analogue Heaven mailing list informed me of this box. OTOH, in an interview Bartos explicitly refers having constructed the vocals from phonemes, assembling them to form intelligible words with the aid of samplers. This contradicts the above reference to "words (...) spoken out." How he made the phonemes, is another matter, not clearly explained in the interview; according to the description he was careful in recording his own voice producing a vast number of phonemes (accounting for the use of five samplers with a total of 60 Megs of RAM) but he doesn't describe how he electronically altered the sounds (i.e. by using a vocoder or any other devices). The mag is Music & Technology, an issue released by the time of 'Esperanto,' of which I don't recall the number. Best! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk & Doepfer Date: 05 Nov 1996 9:21:21 MET > > that is regarded as not that good. > > At least the Raveline review was very favourable. > > > > I mean they have also been involved in the > > construction of the Doepfer A-100 modular system > > I thought that they've only contributed to the development of the > vocoder module? Were they also involved with the A-100 system > itself? 1) I've read some reviews. These were of the opinion that the 404 was too simple. 2) Damn it, I was wrong. R & F was involved in the construction of a analogue (?) sequencer which is supposed to be very good. It is some kind live sequencer where it is very easy to mute and unmute certain tracks. Besides, it contains many useful features. If R & F was involved in the A-100 I really don't know. Sorry ... /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Doepfer Date: 05 Nov 1996 12:08:07 +0000 > 2) Damn it, I was wrong. R & F was involved in the construction of a analogue > (?) sequencer which is supposed to be very good. It is some kind live sequencer > where it is very easy to mute and unmute certain tracks. This appears to be the Doepfer MAQ 16/3 Midi Analogue Sequencer. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: (kw) Ralf Hutter says ... Date: 05 Nov 1996 14:12:15 MET The following statements are from Ralf Hutter. They come from an inteview in the swedish magazine New Life 12/13-91 Ralf Hutter ... - haven't listen to the first Kraftwerk albums for several years. - have seen Front 242 live and liked it, but he thought it was a bit to agressive. - prefer except techno also ethnic music. - always wear black clothes because he is of the opinion that black is a beutiful color that matches everything. - have read Isaac Asimovs books about robots, but he don't remember that much. - prefer to watch black/white movies instead of Hollywood productions. - believe in the future of the human race. - believe that the human beeing will mutate, but never disappear. - don't belive that we have to colonize other planets. - don't believe in God. - has never made a song that doesn't appear on a record. - thinks the world are turning to one big museum. /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf Hutter says ... Date: 05 Nov 1996 08:42:21 -0500 Andreas Elin wrote: > The following statements are from Ralf Hutter. They come from an inteview in > the swedish magazine New Life 12/13-91 > Ralf Hutter ... > - have seen Front 242 live and liked it, but he thought it was a bit to > agressive. > - believe in the future of the human race. "We believe in the future of the human race." - Front 242, "Rhythm Of Time" I just thought that was a funny coincidence. -- Adam J Weitzman --- Individual, Inc. --- weitzman@individual.com VISIT US AT: http://www.individual.com "Every morning I take a poll, and it's 1-0, and I'm winning." - Bob Dole # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf Hutter says ... Date: 05 Nov 1996 15:46:36 +0100 On 05-Nov-96 A.D., Andreas Elin carved the following runes about "(kw) Ra= lf Hutter says ...": >The following statements are from Ralf Hutter. They come from an intevie= w in >the swedish magazine New Life 12/13-91 >Ralf Hutter ... [snip] >- don't believe in God. [snippety-snip] Actually he said that he isn't *religious*, a statement which opens up fo= r = even more (or less?) speculation... A few more of H=FCtter's "disclosures" from the same issue: *Favourite method of transportation: His racer bike (apart from the VW) *Favourite instrument: The human voice *Favourite architecture: Einst=FCrzende Neubauten! I guess it's all in Bussy's book anyway, I can't remember... Gerade aus! -- = ______________________________________________= __ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals ar= e | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Fa= rm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside= " | http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" = | |________________________/boing\_______________/bumm\________________/tsc= hak= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joacim Melin Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf Hutter says ... -Svar Date: 05 Nov 1996 16:25:39 +0100 This article is really old news. It's funny to read it all again, but still, it was made years ago. Doesn't anyone have anything new ? /jcm >>> Emanuel Mair 1996-11-05 15.46 >>> On 05-Nov-96 A.D., Andreas Elin carved the following runes about "(kw) Ra= lf Hutter says ...": >The following statements are from Ralf Hutter. They come from an intevie= w in >the swedish magazine New Life 12/13-91 >Ralf Hutter ... [snip] >- don't believe in God. [snippety-snip] Actually he said that he isn't *religious*, a statement which opens up fo= r = even more (or less?) speculation... A few more of H=FCtter's "disclosures" from the same issue: *Favourite method of transportation: His racer bike (apart from the VW) *Favourite instrument: The human voice *Favourite architecture: Einst=FCrzende Neubauten! I guess it's all in Bussy's book anyway, I can't remember... Gerade aus! -- = ______________________________________________= __ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals ar= e | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Fa= rm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside= " | http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" = | |________________________/boing\_______________/bumm\________________/tsc= hak= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf Hutter says ... -Svar Date: 05 Nov 1996 16:47:57 MET > > This article is really old news. It's funny to read it all again, but still, it was > made years ago. > > Doesn't anyone have anything new ? > > /jcm Old? Sure it is! But that doesn't mean it is boring. /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: (kw) Re: new album Date: 05 Nov 1996 16:11:28 +0100 (MET) Let's all hope that there will be _no_ new album in close future. It would take us all hope for new material for the next five years or so!! A human being can live without new Kraftwerk material, but it can't live without *hope*. ;-) Greetings, Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & Doepfer Date: 05 Nov 1996 17:49:24 MET If you check out http://www.doepferusa.com:80/html/maq.html you will see that Kraftwerk is explicitly credited for contributions to the MAQ 16/3-sequencer. /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf Hutter says ... Date: 05 Nov 1996 19:13:58 +0100 > > Ralf Hutter ... > > - believe in the future of the human race. > > - don't belive that we have to colonize other planets. > > "We believe in the future of the human race." - Front 242, > "Rhythm Of Time" "What's above? New planets to conquer." - F242, same as above -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Stagg <101706.1667@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: (kw) Re: DecTalk Date: 05 Nov 1996 22:33:45 EST > [Bartos] is probably talking about the DecTalk. KW referred to it as > the DLS - Digital Lead Singer - it is a fact that Florian has a box > that words can be printed into and spoken out - just like a DecTalk. > OTOH, in an interview Bartos explicitly refers having constructed the > vocals from phonemes, assembling them to form intelligible words with > the aid of samplers. That reference to the "Digital Lead Singer" was Karl Bartos' little joke I think! :-) Meanwhile, what Florian definitely DOES have in his Kling Klang rack is at least one module - maybe two - which have the name "Robovox" on them. I have a photo from 1992 in front of me right now which shows one quite clearly. This is not so strange by today's standards; even here as part of my basic Mac o/s I have the 'Speech Manager' extension which allows documents to be "spoken" by the computer in a variety of voices. Florians's boxes obviously have more complex programming, but it's essentially the same process, with better articulation, emphasis, etc. There have been several references to KW's "singing typewriter" in the past - this is obviously it. As an example of this same technique being put to good use in the real world, think about those systems available to people with speech problems. Check out top-boffin-physicist Dr Stephen Hawkings's speech generator as one of the most well-kwown examples (triggered, I believe, directly from his larynx)... not so far removed from the stuff on 'The Mix' don't you reckon?! (BTW, anyone know any more about how this works? Actually, maybe that's a bit off-topic...) On 'Esperanto' though, there is a combination of "real" vocals, sampled phonemes, and these same computer-generated "DLS" vox. The track 'Crosstalk, for example, contains all three. I can't hear any actual "vocoding" as such on the album, but I could be wrong. Anyone? And please excuse my ignorance, but what is 'DecTalk' - a computer program? or a "stand-alone" thing? STAGGMAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: (kw) Re: DecTalk Date: 06 Nov 1996 12:55:19 +0100 > On 'Esperanto' though, there is a combination of "real" vocals, > sampled phonemes, and these same computer-generated "DLS" vox. The > track 'Crosstalk, for example, contains all three. Just to eradicate eventual misunderstandings: When Bartos referred the constructed phonemes, he was talking about that robot voice you hear singing 'cut the superstition' or 'underground, overdrive' which may not be well understood from your statement above--since there are a lot of phoneme bursts in 'normal' voice much like that six-phoneme 'melody' which opens 'Musique Non Stop' derived from the female voice singing 'Technopop' (the first five notes being clearly a section from the 'pop' and the last from the 'tech' syllables). I don't have the mag at hand right now, so I may be wrong in what I'm saying; it is just the idea I got from reading it. Best! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: (kw) New Komputer single Date: 06 Nov 1996 14:32:24 MET The day before yesterday I heard the new Komputer single 'Looking down on London' on a swedish radio show. The music was not as claimed a rip off from Trans Europe Express. The refrain was more or less talking as in 'Komputer Krash' while the refrain was in a 'Telephone Call'-fashion. I cannot judge the song after just one hearing, but I think it was good though not fantastic. The song is very influenced by different Kraftwerk-styles but the feeling was kind of 'Europe Endless'. I hope this says something about their new single. /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gabe Yedid Subject: (kw) re: new album Date: 06 Nov 1996 12:02:38 -0500 (EST) I personally will never believe in any new KW album until the box is in my hand and the CD is spinning in the player. Gabe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) re: new album Date: 06 Nov 1996 13:40:04 -0500 (EST) >I personally will never believe in any new KW album until the box is in >my hand and the CD is spinning in the player. Now *there's* optimism for you... ;o) I don't suppose you're a religious man either? Using that logic, you'd *have* to be an atheist (like Ralf Huetter?)! hehe.. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Drehen wir am Radiophon..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: (kw) Esperanto dictionary Date: 07 Nov 1996 9:28:59 MET There is a esperanto-english dictionary on the net: http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/HTML/Dictionaries.html Just to let you know ... /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Esperanto dictionary Date: 07 Nov 1996 13:30:14 +0100 On 07-Nov-96 A.D., Andreas Elin carved the following runes about "(kw) Es= peranto dictionary": >There is a esperanto-english dictionary on the net: >http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/HTML/Dictionaries.html >Just to let you know ... Another source of wisdom: http://www.notam.uio.no/~hcholm/altlang/stat.html The Alternative Dictionary - swearwords and insults in e.g. Esperanto. Gerade aus! -- ______________________________________________= __ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals ar= e | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Fa= rm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside= " | http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" = | |________________________/boing\_______________/bumm\________________/tsc= hak= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Hope this is the real thing Date: 08 Nov 1996 03:21:36 EST I really hope that this time they aren't bluffing. Are Flur, Bartos, and Schult appearing on the new album as well? I think that it would be really weird if KW covered the songs they've influenced! Just imagine.... Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) Hope this is the real thing Date: 08 Nov 1996 15:48:35 +0100 Adam Schefflan wrote: > > Are Flur, Bartos, and Schult appearing on the new album as well? Highly improbable, since Schult does not appear for quite a while and The Mix didn't have Flur or Bartos, nor did they expressed any intention of continuing in the band--quite the contrary, AAMOF. Best! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) Hope this is the real thing Date: 08 Nov 1996 16:08:55 +0100 Adam Schefflan wrote: > > Are Flur, Bartos, and Schult appearing on the new album as well? Highly improbable, since Schult does not appear for quite a while and The Mix didn't have Flur or Bartos, nor did they express any intention of continuing in the band--quite the contrary, AAMOF. Best! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) Catching UP.... Date: 09 Nov 1996 02:52:30 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- -Hi, Everybody- The computer was down ALL WEEK!*AGH*! As soon as the system is Totally ON-LINE again, I can Scan those KW articles I -(finally)- dug up at Mom's house- 'coupla RARE fotos- YAY! Meanwhile, I've got 93 Email messages to answer, and lotsa FanChat to catch up on!*JOY*! :] So, are they REEEEALLY REEEEEEALLY doing a *NEW* album? Or am I getting all HYPED-UP for Nothin'?? -(Who said "humans can live without new KW tunes"?? NOT ME!!)- I'll believe it when I SEE/HEAR it....*sigh*.... "o ye of little faith".... NOTE: someone was talking about the "snarled" vocal "Kor-Rekt" on Das Model. Your ears are not deceiving you. 'Just a bit of cutesy humor, ahr-ahr. Like, "RI-I-IGHT." Say WHAT?! Ralf doesn't believe in God?? No WAY! Not "religious", perhaps, but, total Atheist? I don't think so. He/they mention taking their Musik to a "spiritual level"- it's in one of my articles. How can someone believe in having a spirit/soul if they don't believe in God?? -(or some kind of Universal Collective Intelligence/Creative LifeForce, which Mortal Man struggles to "define".)- Hm-m-m, do ROBOTS have Souls?? I think they do, if they're Sentient, like DATA- way in the Future. As for simple late 20th-Century "Showroom Dummies", probably not. sorry Ralf. Oh, I ordered *The BOOK* from "VERGE" in Ontario about 2 weeks ago, and I just got a message from the proprieter saying he sent all of their in-stock copies back to the supplier -(?)-, and by the time he received my Money order for $24.45 the suppliers SOLD all of the copies, so, he couldn't retrieve any, and he doesn't expect any more until January. I also heard that the Publisher -(UK)- ran out of copies and will do a 3rd printing in spring '97. Am I the only one having such Rotten Luck trying to get _M.M + Music_?? Am I getting Ripped-Off or what?? The guy DID offer to return my Money Order, but, I can't cash it because it's made out in his name. I guess I'll just have to trust him and wait til January.*groan*. Why ME, Lord? Why am I so UNlucky?? -(And Florian's wife is the LUCKIEST ----- in the UNIVERSE!!!!*ARGH*!!!! It wouldn't hurt so bad if I had a husband that treated me right.... damn, I GOTTA build those Dream-'Droids. I'm going way PAST "insane"! I need a love life.... nevermind....)- Sorry. I've been "out of the loop" too long. Aw, jeez- MORE Email INcoming?! Check it out.... TchuS! ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Manno Toshikazu Subject: (kw) Self Introduction Date: 11 Nov 1996 13:02:14 +900 (JST) Hi, All KraftWerk fans. I'm very gald to join you. My name is Manno Toshikazu from Japan. I'm old KraftWerk fan for more than 20 years. I have all thier albums till 'Electric Cafe'. I've only seen thier concert in 1981 or 1982. That's very good but sometimes funny. And also 'Neu' and 'La Desseldorf' are my favorites. I would like to talk all of you. See you again! Manno Toshikazu manno@kenwood.co.jp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Musique Non Stop Date: 11 Nov 1996 14:01:22 +0000 (GMT) =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_?= Schrattenecker wrote:- > From rschratt@mma.fh-sbg.ac.at Fri Nov 8 16:08 GMT 1996 > Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961108162531.0067fc64@mail.dir.fh-sbg.ac.at> > X-Sender: rschratt@mail.dir.fh-sbg.ac.at (Unverified) > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 17:25:31 +0100 > To: K.G.Busby@bham.ac.uk > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_?= Schrattenecker > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Length: 695 > > greetings from Austria/Salzburg! > > Please help me urgently! > > First i want to thank you for your angagement concerning to everything about > kraftwerk! i visit your homepage frequently because of the ultimate information. > but now i have a great problem: as i study multimediaart in salzburg i have > to do a presentation for informatics: so i choosed to speak about the making > of the video musique non stop and was sure to find informatinon in the net, > but i cannot find anything. so if you can help me i would be very thankfull. > is there any webside dealing with this task? > > im looking forward to hearing from you soon, > > RUDO of Salzburg (Robot unit design offensive) > > >>@@@666999@@@<< > > > -- Kevin Busby, Studio Technical Manager, Department of Music, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham, B15 2TT, England. Tel: +44-(0)121-414 5785. Fax: +44-(0)121 414 5781. WWW: http://sun1.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) [Fwd: Possible KW write-up in _FI_ magazine- by MOI?!] Date: 11 Nov 1996 18:39:50 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2EEA381A35B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #@%$ing TYPOS! try again.... I'm TOO eXIted! Bear with me.... --------------2EEA381A35B9 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <3287E238.3D49@razorlogic.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -(I, ROBOT)- *HI-HI-HI*!!! Pinch me! I Must be Dreaming! I've been asked to submit a KW article for _FI_ magazine!*SCREAM*! I Can't beLIEVe it! I wrote a letter to "The Audio Shrink", Dr. Michael Ginti, -(he has an advice column)-, telling about the Hypnotik Effekt of KW's VIBES, blah-blah-blah, and he Liked my Candid Passionate writing style- so, he asked me to do a Review of the *NEW* Album when it comes out, and a Historical write-up & Discography, etc. He can't Guarantee it will be published, but, he said he'd push it for me and get my foot in the door. If it IS published, he said I'd be Well-Paid for it. Ofcourse, I'd do it for FREE, but, am I gonna say NO?! I'm being handed a FanTAStiK OpporTunity on a Silver Platter! *WOW*! Maybe those Journalism Classes will Pay Off after all! So, I'm gonna be a Writer/Illustrator when I grow up. They might need my Art & Drafting skills, too- you know those KooL "cut-away" drawings of Speakers and Amplifiers and all that High-End TWEAK Stuff? YEAH! Right up my Alley!*DROOL*! AudioPhile Alert! *whooOOP-whooOOP*! -(Nov. 22! Prepare to be Assimilated! The BORG are coming! The BORG are coming!)- I think my life just took a turn for the Better....*sigh*.... ME?! Writing a KW Article for a Major High-End Audio Mag?! If they actually Print it, I'll FAINT! I'd like to write about all Kinds of other things, too- But, eSPECially KW! Gee, there's Equipment reviews, & various Artists' new releases, und so weiter.... I'll never know if'n I don't TRY. Wish me Luck- I'll NEED it! If I'M successful, we're ALL successful. I certainly wouldn't take any credit for news gathered from older articles & various sources. -(Naturally I'll need to ask permission and all that Legal Stuff.)- Proper Honors will be Given & Shared by ALL. Man, I'm PSYCHED! This Just Might WERK into a Regular Gig, you Dig? _^.".^_ *PURR-RR* >ROBOKITTY< ExSTATically Yours, ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT --------------2EEA381A35B9-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Congrats, Robot! Date: 12 Nov 1996 00:51:41 EST >>> I've been asked to submit a KW article for _FI_ magazine!*SCREAM*! I Can't beLIEVe it! I wrote a letter to "The Audio Shrink," Dr. Michael Ginti, -(he has an advice column)-, telling about the Hypnotik Effekt of KW's VIBES, blah-blah-blah, and he Liked my Candid Passionate writing style- so, he asked me to do a Review of the *NEW* Album when it comes out, and a Historical write-up & Discography, etc. He can't Guarantee it will be published, but, he said he'd push it for me and get my foot in the door. <<< That's great! But what is FI Magazine???? I'm looking forward to reading the article! Your style is similar to Bonz Malone's writing. Does anyone know a US date for the album (we know UK) as well as a label? Will we have to wait 1 1/2 years like we did for EM's "Esperanto"? >>>(Nov. 22! Prepare to be Assimilated! The BORG are coming! The BORG are coming!)<<< Yeah, hope that movie's da bomb, but I've grown sick of ST's lack of Afrocentric concepts and ideas. And, worst of all, no electronic music, especially Kraftwerk! I still think it would be REALLY weird if KW covered the artists they've influenced! Just imagine, for example, "Al-Naafiysh (The Soul)" as covered by you-know-who. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) New Rumour... Date: 12 Nov 1996 11:56:35 +0100 (NFT) The following is taken from http://www-public.rz-uni-duesseldorf.de/~hauptn/kraft.html. > Mitte '96 tauchten mal wieder neue Geruechte um Kraftwerk's neue > Auftritte auf der KOMM auf. > > Angeblich gibt es '97 eine LP und eine Tour mit den Beastie Boys, more > news folgen... At this year's KOMM festival in Duesseldorf it was rumoured that Kraftwerk may release a new album next year and go on tour with the Beastie Boys. (Smells like a permutation of this year's Tribal Gathering rumour, IMHO...) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: (kw) Noise in Radioactivity, The Mix version Date: 12 Nov 1996 11:25:14 +0100 Did anyone ever notice that the track Radioactivity in The Mix has noise (a sort of crackling, grained noise) from ca 4:08 to 4:22, along the voice singing 'Chernobyl, Harrisburg, etc.'? Looks like our perfectionist idols are only humans ;-) and not machines, and that the ultimate Kling Klang equipment is not foolproof. One more for the file of anomalies and curiosities on KW recordings... -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nl2057@cnsvax.albany.edu Subject: Re: (kw) Musique Non Stop Date: 12 Nov 1996 08:32:40 -0500 (EST) Well as far as I know, the New York Institute of Technology designed the cover for the album "Electric Cafe". I think that they may have had a role in designing the video since it is all compu-animation. Nate El Great B-Boy On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Kevin Busby wrote: > =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_?= Schrattenecker wrote:- > > From rschratt@mma.fh-sbg.ac.at Fri Nov 8 16:08 GMT 1996 > > Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961108162531.0067fc64@mail.dir.fh-sbg.ac.at> > > X-Sender: rschratt@mail.dir.fh-sbg.ac.at (Unverified) > > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 17:25:31 +0100 > > To: K.G.Busby@bham.ac.uk > > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_?= Schrattenecker > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Content-Length: 695 > > > > greetings from Austria/Salzburg! > > > > Please help me urgently! > > > > First i want to thank you for your angagement concerning to everything about > > kraftwerk! i visit your homepage frequently because of the ultimate information. > > but now i have a great problem: as i study multimediaart in salzburg i have > > to do a presentation for informatics: so i choosed to speak about the making > > of the video musique non stop and was sure to find informatinon in the net, > > but i cannot find anything. so if you can help me i would be very thankfull. > > is there any webside dealing with this task? > > > > im looking forward to hearing from you soon, > > > > RUDO of Salzburg (Robot unit design offensive) > > > > >>@@@666999@@@<< > > > > > > > > > -- > Kevin Busby, Studio Technical Manager, Department of Music, > University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham, B15 2TT, England. > Tel: +44-(0)121-414 5785. Fax: +44-(0)121 414 5781. > WWW: http://sun1.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/ > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. > # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BLANKS Subject: (kw) How do you do,everyone. Date: 12 Nov 1996 16:02:11 +0000 How do you do,everyone. I,m new commer from Tokyo Japan. My handle name is SAKURA. Plese come to my KFAFTWERK (my love) WWW PAGE that my collection of Bootleg CD. http://super.win.or.jp/~blanks/house.html This is My first Greeting. Thank you. Bye(^^) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gustav Holmberg" Subject: Re: (kw) Noise in Radioactivity, The Mix version Date: 12 Nov 1996 16:11:58 +0000 There is some noice on Computer World (the cd reissue). Perhaps not an anomaly, considering the level of recording technology back in '81. (On the other hand, it seems that CW has more noice than on some other records of the same period, or am I just hallucinating? Compare, for example, CW, to ELO:s Out of the Blue. Perhaps Kling Klang just wasn't comparable in recording quality to major studios?) /Gustav > Did anyone ever notice that the track Radioactivity in The Mix has noise > (a sort of crackling, grained noise) from ca 4:08 to 4:22, along the > voice singing 'Chernobyl, Harrisburg, etc.'? > > Looks like our perfectionist idols are only humans ;-) and not machines, > and that the ultimate Kling Klang equipment is not foolproof. > > One more for the file of anomalies and curiosities on KW recordings... > -- > __|__ > ___\_/___ > ___ Paulo Mouat, > |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt > |___| > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. > # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) Sorry, but... Date: 12 Nov 1996 19:39:04 MET Sorry, I've been off the list for a while but I want to know what does all these rumours about a new album by KW mean. Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spotnik@aol.com Subject: (kw) Fi Magazine Date: 12 Nov 1996 13:53:08 -0500 This is in response to a recent query asking about Dr. Michael Gindi, Fi Magazine and Gindi's column, "Ask The Audio Shrink." Fi is a magazine started earlier this year as a music and high end audio review magazine. Its staff consists of a number of audio industry veterans and music reviewers as well as some newcomers. (I know most of them, having worked with many of Fi's staff during my tenure as an editor at The Absolute Sound magazine when they were writing for TAS, but will refrain from editorializing here.) The magazine contains a number of equipment reviews, vinyl and CD reviews, think pieces, editorials and so on, and is of quite a high standard. Gindi's column is one of my favorites, as he (often tongue-in-cheek) answers questions from readers regarding their audiophile obsessions. To quote from the magazine: "'Ask The Audio Shrink'...answers questions about the psychological side of the hobby...anything from psychoacoustics to 'how can I persuads my spouse to let me put those new high-tech looking nine foot high speakers in the middle of our newly redecorated Early American living room?'" I've known Gindi for many years, and he is one of the most passionate proponents of high end audio in the service of the enjoyment of music. Years ago, Gindi invited me to hear his mega-ultra high end system (we're talking $25,000 amplifiers, $15,000 turntables, etc.) Of course, I had to hear some Kraftwerk, and brought along the 12-inch remix of "The Telephone Call." Well, you can imagine--or maybe not--how unbelievable it sounded on Gindi's system! I've said it before and I'll say it again...you MUST hear Kraftwerk on a truly high end audio system if you haven't already! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Komputer Krash Date: 12 Nov 1996 19:35:08 +0000 (GMT) Andreas Elin :- > Subject: (kw) New Komputer single > > The day before yesterday I heard the new Komputer single 'Looking down on > London' on a swedish radio show. The music was not as claimed a rip off from > Trans Europe Express. The refrain was more or less talking as in 'Komputer > Krash' while the refrain was in a 'Telephone Call'-fashion. I cannot judge the > song after just one hearing, but I think it was good though not fantastic. The > song is very influenced by different Kraftwerk-styles but the feeling was kind > of 'Europe Endless'. I finally found a copy of this EP the other day. I've only had the chance to listen to it once so far, but my first impression is that whilst Komputer have cleverly copied elements of the Kraftwerk sound, the music itself is so unimaginative and derivative as to be absolutely pointless. Surely they could have emulated Kraftwerk without aping riffs and sounds so slavishly? BTW, the vocals reminded me of I Start Counting... anyone agree? > From: Kevin Busby > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:01:22 +0000 (GMT) > Subject: (kw) Musique Non Stop > > =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_?= Schrattenecker wrote:- > > From rschratt@mma.fh-sbg.ac.at Fri Nov 8 16:08 GMT 1996 Sorry, it seems that my posting about this didn't meet with my editor's approval. Anywhow, without the preamble which I added (and which the editor seems to have removed!) thanks to those who have attempted to answer this chap's forwarded query. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) Komputer Krash Date: 12 Nov 1996 12:55:21 -0700 (MST) > BTW, the vocals reminded me of I Start Counting... anyone agree? Hmmm, now why would that be . . . :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Musique Non Stop Date: 12 Nov 1996 17:35:25 -0500 (EST) >Well as far as I know, the New York Institute of Technology designed the >cover for the album "Electric Cafe". I think that they may have had a >role in designing the video since it is all compu-animation. Yep, correct. The cover of 'Electric Cafe' was designed by the New York Institute of Technology here in my hometown, as was the video for the track of the same name, designed by Rebecca Allen of the Institute in correspondence with Kraftwerk. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Boing Boom Tschak!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) FI Magazine/KW&Sci-Fi Date: 12 Nov 1996 17:26:53 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- hoo boy, I really opened up a can'o'worms this time! Serious business First. Fun Stuphph Later.... -Dear Spotnik & Muziknut & ALL Fellow KW Fans- Thank you for posting the info about FI magazine! I just found out about it myself, so, I couldn't offer any details. About 2 weeks ago, I was given a stack of Stereo/Music magazines- several back issues of FI, Stereo Review, High-Fi World, Option, and Stereophile -$67.5K for a pair of Wilson Grand SLAMM'S?!*whimper*!! -(Where can I get Absolute Sound? 'Gotta Find it!)- No way I can afford all that Sexy Sophisticated Stereo Stuff, but, it's such Sweet Ecstasy/Agony to Read about it and DREAM.... Yes, Dr. Ginti "The Audio Shrink" has a very entertaining column- I just HAD to write to him and ask if I'm INSANE or not, -("Auditory Orgasms", oKaY? Don't ask. It only happens with KW. No other musik Does It to me like THAT!*blush*!)- and, apparently, he's atleast somewhat of a KW fan! I'm touched and amazed that he asked me to submit a KW article/review, and he assured me he would edit it himself and make sure the Editors give it serious consideration for publication. That's realistic enough. If the Album is supposed be out in "Early '97", that gives me plenty of time to sift through my K-Philes and compile a nice, tidy "Chronology" & Discography. I don't want to get into any Legal hassles by "plagerizing" a bunch of old articles & interviews- but, aside from this Mail List, that's the only Info I have as far as quoting R&F's Ideas & Philosophies, etc. What else can I do but gather Info & put it in my own words? "In the Beginning, Ralf & Florian met at Such & Such Conservatory in 1968...." whatever. This is truly a Labor of Love! NOW for some REAL Fun! Hey, Adam/Muziknut -and All Other KRAFT TREK Afficianados! It would be MaJor RADiKal if KW did the SOUND TREK for the New Movie- or ANY Sci-Fi Flick! R&F talking about STAR WARS: "....19th Century strings? THAT Music for THAT Film?!" I agree. John Williams does nice Classical music, yes, but, KW -(and/or JMJarre, even)- would've been Much more suited for Outer Space Adventure! After all, KRAFTWERK _IS_ The FORCE!! Gee, they should do a complete remake of Metropolis with current actors & spec fx, with a PURE KW sound track! Otherwise, leave the Original Silent Movie Ay-LOne! It had "Dubbed-In" orchestral music originally, but, it served well for 1926. -(I didn't care for the modern rock sound track version- although I like Queen, and I like their Radio Ga Ga video with Metropolis footage- KooL!)- KW's into Film. They oughtta do their own Feature-Length SPACEMOVIE! Tickets, anyone? I'm First in Line!! Re: Afrocentric Concepts on STAR TREK- worthy topic. A lot of KW Fans are also into ST/SF, so, this is relevant. Captain Sisko on DS9 is an Excellent Character. Period. So is Uhura on the Original series, and Guinan on Next Gen is Very Ineresting! STAR TREK has always showed various races -Humans AND 'Aliens'- as Equals with out race being an Issue Per Se. -(Several episodes have addressed the subject of Prejudice.)- How does this subject relate to KW? Their Musik is Totally Universal! Just think, xmissions of their Tunes are being picked up by some Happy Space Travellers even Now! :] Yeah, they should've included a song or 2 on that Voyager Probe with the Gold-Pressed record of various Earth Music. I can't believe Ralf would not want us to colonize other Planets. -(well, he says, "we don't HAVE to....")- I guess he figures we should clean up our Own Back Yard before we muck up someplace Else, eh? 'Might have a point there. Just drop me off on Harry Mudd's Planet -("I, Mudd" episode)- with all of those Androids. Harry can Keep the "Female", and I'll be happy with R&F&K&W, and Whoever their Percussionists of the Moment might be. Yeah, KW and SCI-FI definitely go together! If you want to get into some really off the wall discussions, Email me! Now, where did I stash my K-Philes?? I've got WERK to do! :] ROBOSMILEY -(Wow! Bones Malone? I'm not Worthy! But, thanx 4 the Kompliment!)- InSANEly Yours, ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fiveman (j.g. Wong)" Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk Digest V3 #18 - DecTalk Date: 13 Nov 1996 00:18:47 -0500 DecTalk is a speech synthesizer used mainly by the visually impaired on voice output computer systems usually as an internal board also as a small external There are many types of speech devices but the DecTalk is considered to be the best and is in fact the most widely used. DecTalk comes configured in many ways but at the time that Kraftwerk would have used them it would have come housed as a standalone box roughly 12" x 9" , had an internal speaker, 1/8 " stereo out, RJ 45 and RS 232 in and out, very programmable, nine software controlled voices (including children and British accent) and is exceptionally well constructed (it could tour). Cost then $5000 (us), used now $500-800. Current version $1200 Leave it to Krafwerk to adapt an adaptive device so brilliantly. Another thing to note is that Kraftwerk's interest in this device probably helped advance disabled access to speech devices because it lifted DecTalk out of it's niche market into a wider one. gw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Yet another rumour Date: 13 Nov 1996 11:12:46 +0000 Taken from alt.music.synthpop: > Subject: Kraftwerk > > A new CD will be out in February 97 > There are some concerts book for the same month in USA > Does anyone know the dates ??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) KW Mail List Archives Date: 13 Nov 1996 02:45:47 -0800 -(really from ROBOT aka: Melanie Jean Mayfield)- Greetings all "Newcomers" and "Catcher-Uppers"! Hi! I'm sure Lazlo Nibble could explain this WAY better than I can, but, it took ME a while to find the Archives, so, I just wanted to pass along some "Hints". It took ME a while to figure it out, so, maybe I can save some of you a lot of Time & Bother. Shoot me if I'm wrong, but, it Should WERK.... To catch up on the Latest FanChat, click on the highlighted "ftp" address below, and it SHOULD pop up on your screen. You'll see a list of dates. Click on Nov. 1st and scroll to almost the end of the "Digest", and you'll see a letter from "ARKzin" about the upcoming album- I can't WAIT to HEAR it!*sigh*! Nov. 3, 6, & 11 have some more interesting news, as well as the last 2 weeks of Oct. Well, it's ALL interesting & fun to read! I joined the Mail List on Oct. 11th -"My 1st Post Ever"- and then things Really got CRAZY! HA! :] ROBOSMILEY Strikes Again! Anyway you can access ALL the recent & not-so-recent SubSpace Chatter about the Greatest Mekanikal Musikmeisters in the Universe! ENJOY! Jeez, I'm having TOO Much FUN! 0230?! Sleep? Who the hell can Sleep?! They're Finally doing a *NEW* Album for Chrissakes!! YEAH!! Guten Nacht! KRAFTWERK Mail List Archives: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive TschuS! ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(check my foto & "profile" page....)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) KW Mail List Archives Date: 13 Nov 1996 09:58:27 -0700 (MST) > KRAFTWERK Mail List Archives: > ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive Just FYI, http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk works better. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: [Fwd: Re: (kw) KW Mail List Archives] Date: 13 Nov 1996 11:18:03 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------762629434300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oops!! --------------762629434300 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <328A1E5A.316B@razorlogic.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) CC: kraftwerk@xmission.com References: <199611131658.JAA29311@slug.swcp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > > KRAFTWERK Mail List Archives: > > ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive > > Just FYI, http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk works better. > > -- > ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) -(it's me, the Computer-Illiterate ROBOT)- -Dear Lazlo & Company- Okay, I'm an Idiot, but, when I click the "http" the Dates don't show up. <"unknown">. With "ftp" the Dates show up as "FRI Nov 1 '96", nice and easy to read. Do I have an 'Error in the System' or what? -(yeah, that's a Peter Schilling tune. He's quite KWish!)- Duh-h, so how does this Archives deal WERK?? BTW: What is that nice bit of Music on your "Postcard"? It sounds kinda like an Electronic Spanish Guitar- Very Pretty! :] I've browsed your website several times, and I've always wondered- what's that tune? Curiously Yours, ROBOT --------------762629434300-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parker Subject: (kw) Tour De France Date: 13 Nov 1996 20:48:46 +0000 I know this isn't available on CD as far as I am aware but on another mailing list I get we are at present constructing a list of favourite songs and unavailable material to be put on to CD. One of the members of the List has a access to a CD Writer and is willing to use it to make these CD's for us, he is only charging for the cost of a blank CD (about 6 UK Pounds) and consequently doesn't believe he is infringing copyright. The CD is not being made available to the general public, just die hard fans on the list. As I would give my right arm and a lot more to get a copy of Tour De France on CD what do people think about the idea and would anyone with access to the right equipment be prepared to do it? Let me know what you think Thanks -- Richard Parker richard@co35pn.demon.co.uk "Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Re: Rumours Date: 13 Nov 1996 16:45:35 -0500 (EST) Fellow Kraftwerkians, Well, I just finished speaking to the individual that originally posted the info on the alt.music.synthpop newsgroup that Klaus told us about this morning. I had asked him where he got his info from that KW would have a new album and U.S. tour dates in February '97, and here was his reply: >i spoke with someone from EMI-Electrola >Emi ist the german record company of kraftwerk > >there was an releaseparty in england. > >in a few hours i will go to new york and visit some clubs This doesn't say too much for confirmation. If there was a release party in England, wouldn't we have heard about this by now? Not to discredit this source or anything, but does anyone have anything more solid to go on? Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour De France Date: 13 Nov 1996 16:45:37 -0500 (EST) >these CD's for us, he is only charging for the cost of a blank CD (about >6 UK Pounds) and consequently doesn't believe he is infringing >copyright. The CD is not being made available to the general public, >just die hard fans on the list. >As I would give my right arm and a lot more to get a copy of Tour De >France on CD what do people think about the idea and would anyone with >access to the right equipment be prepared to do it? > >Let me know what you think Wouldn't it just make more sense to purchase the Japanese 'Computer World' re-issue containing "Tour de France" when it is released? Sure it would cost more, but at least that would be official. -Scott- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) Tour De France Date: 13 Nov 1996 22:14:32 +0100 Richard Parker wrote: > As I would give my right arm and a lot more to get a copy of Tour De > France on CD what do people think about the idea and would anyone with > access to the right equipment be prepared to do it? You can always wait for the much delayed japanese reissue of Computerwelt... The release was scheduled for late August this year, maybe it'll come out soon. Not only it has TdF, but also the B-side of the single (I believe) and Dentaku. Best! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jplanet@generation.net (Jef Planet) Subject: (kw) kw gt Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:43:19 -0500 Hi boys and girls this is Jef Planet speaking from montreal... Tell me, since we've been hearing rumours about a new (pfffffff!) kw album and possibly a tour following it, would'nt it be a kool idea that we, the list members, get together to see the rhur brothers in concert somewhere... Since there is high probabillity that we're not gonna be able to see them in north america (praise the lord not), i suggest a meeting somewhere in europe (I bougt my tickets for the last tour in Montreal being sure that they would show up, or at least send the robots!!! and as the fellows in north america i went home with a deception... as if i knew it earlier i would have bougt a plane ticket to anywhere in Europe as long as there was a kw show) But this time i want to make sure i see them, and i know i'm probably not the same in this situation. I know it's a bit early to plan all this but since we are not all millionnaires it is good to plan these things in advance. Just hope that this time it's not just a rumour. Oh!!! by the way if any of you would like a sample of my soon to come album in real audio just e-mail me privately and it woud be my pleasure to send you a song or two. Since then, this is Jef Planet sayin good nigt... and drive home safely # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Flat broke Date: 14 Nov 1996 00:49:17 EST >>> Since there is a high probability that we're not gonna be able to see them in north america (praise the lord not), i suggest a meeting somewhere in europe (I bought my tickets for the last tour in Montreal being sure that they would show up, or at least send the robots!!! and as the fellows in north america i went home with a deception... as if i knew it earlier i would have bought a plane ticket to anywhere in Europe as long as there was a kw show) But this time i want to make sure i see them, and i know i'm probably not the same in this situation. <<< >>> I know it's a bit early to plan all this but since we are not all millionaires it is good to plan these things in advance. <<< It would be nice, especially since my bank account's total is ZERO. Maybe I'll win the lottery. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Komputer Krash Date: 14 Nov 1996 11:29:25 +0000 (GMT) "Lazlo Nibble" :- > > BTW, the vocals reminded me of I Start Counting... anyone agree? > > Hmmm, now why would that be . . . :-) Don't be a tease! What's the answer? :-D (They're not both Mute Records boss Daniel Miller are they?!). BTW, listening to the CD again I think I was a touch harsh in my judgement of it. 'Valentina Tereshkova' is a good Kraftwerk tribute, although its similarities to 'The Model' and 'Radioactivity' stop it being anything more than that. My biggest criticism of the EP is that 'Oh Synthesizer' sounds so much like a cheesey karaoke cover version of 'Neon Lights'... damn, harsh again! :-D Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Fischer Subject: (kw) Talking about noise Date: 14 Nov 1996 15:09:35 +0100 Hi there! I=B4ve read about the noise in the "We are the Robots", Mix-version. Haven= =B4t ckecked it out yet, since I have this CD in my car, and my CD-player there doesn=B4t display the time... Or I=B4m in traffic... But I remember that on the CD "Computerworld", the last seconds of "Computerliebe", it sounds as if the music was pitched up. On a Cassette, on which I recorded the original vinyl version in =B482 there=B4s nothing to= hear about this effect... Someone knows anything about...? Peter SBK Software und Systeme GmbH | =20 Hollaendische Strasse 141 | E-mail: pfi@sbk-ks.de D-34127 Kassel | phone : 0049-(0)561-9899-701 Germany | Fax : 0049-(0)561-85161 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Troy Morehouse Subject: Re: (kw) Talking about noise Date: 14 Nov 1996 10:27:52 -0400 Peter Fischer wrote: > I´ve read about the noise in the "We are the Robots", Mix-version. Haven´t > ckecked it out yet, since I have this CD in my car, and my CD-player there > doesn´t display the time... Or I´m in traffic... I think the reason for this noise is a simple explanation: some parts of the song are "saqmples" of the original song, of of their multitrack tapes... the newer parts of the song (on the mix) were recorded from more modern equipment onto more modern recording decks. The older parts (the samples from the original) have a noise floor that is higher (because of the age of the tapes and the technology back in the late 70's). If you listen to the original (on vynil, not CD as they have been remastered) you will hear that similar noise throughout the entire song... not as noticable since you hear it all the way through and not in just parts. That's my thoughts anyway's. -Troy Troy Morehouse, Dir. Tech. Operations Ingenia Communications Corporation - Atlantic Canada http://east.ingenia.com mailto:tmorehou@ingenia.com http://iron.ingenia.com/~tmorehou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: [Fwd: Re: (kw) KW Mail List Archives] Date: 14 Nov 1996 10:37:55 -0700 (MST) > Okay, I'm an Idiot, but, when I click the "http" the Dates don't > show up. <"unknown">. The file types are "unknown", not the dates. > BTW: What is that nice bit of Music on your "Postcard"? It sounds > kinda like an Electronic Spanish Guitar- Very Pretty! :] I've browsed > your website several times, and I've always wondered- what's that tune? It's called "algarve" and is part of the Green Dinosaur Collection of MIDI files sold by Thomas Dolby's company Headspace (www.headspace.com). -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (kw) Komputer Krash Date: 14 Nov 1996 10:40:08 -0700 (MST) >>> BTW, the vocals reminded me of I Start Counting... anyone agree? >> >> Hmmm, now why would that be . . . :-) > > Don't be a tease! What's the answer? :-D (They're not both Mute Records > boss Daniel Miller are they?!). Komputer is made up (at least in part) of members of Fortran 5. Fortran 5 used to be I Start Counting. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: More anomalies [Was Re: (kw) Talking about noise] Date: 14 Nov 1996 19:40:13 +0100 Peter Fischer wrote: > But I remember that on the CD "Computerworld", the last seconds of > "Computerliebe", it sounds as if the music was pitched up. On a=20 > Cassette, on which I recorded the original vinyl version in =B482=20 > there=B4s nothing to hear about this effect... > Someone knows anything about...? It is really on the CD "Computerwelt" i.e. the german edition of "Computerworld" that this anomaly is present. Indeed the last few moments have a strange pitch effect, and it pitches down, AAMOF. The american edition (Elektra) does not show this. Since we're at that CD, have any of you noticed that "Taschenrechner" (the german version for "Pocket Calculator") ends in a rather curious manner? It is as if when they finished playing the recorder was still=20 running; the percussion stops, but there are still some stray=20 electronic tones being issued. Once again, the Elektra edition does not show this (the track is 7 seconds shorter than the german one). Also on the Elektra edition, "Homecomputer" has a few more sounds than its german counterpart: Around 0:40 and subsequent similar phrases, there are a few faint high-pitched tones (some four of them) right on=20 the start of the repetitions of the track's beggining theme. At that=20 moment, we can also hear a very faint voice, saying or singing something=20 unintelligible--it sounds like a "ghost" of the track's chorus, as if the original multitrack had a voice singing on that section but it was=20 eliminated in the final mixing process. Troy Morehouse wrote: > [noise in "The Robots", The Mix] > The older parts (the samples from the original) have a noise floor=20 > that is higher (because of the age of the tapes and the technology=20 > back in the late 70's). Except that I was referring to "Radioactivity" (from "The Mix"), and=20 the intervening sounds at that particular part are not old, they are quite new AAMOF. Also, I'm not speaking of noise-floor, hiss, or=20 whatever; it is clearly some interference-like kind of noise, a=20 sequence of transient pulses, much like the latter moments of "Geiger Counter." --=20 __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Troy Morehouse Subject: Re: More anomalies [Was Re: (kw) Talking about noise] Date: 14 Nov 1996 16:00:29 -0400 Paulo Mouat wrote: > Troy Morehouse wrote: > > [noise in "The Robots", The Mix] > > The older parts (the samples from the original) have a noise floor > > that is higher (because of the age of the tapes and the technology > > back in the late 70's). > > Except that I was referring to "Radioactivity" (from "The Mix"), and > the intervening sounds at that particular part are not old, they are > quite new AAMOF. Also, I'm not speaking of noise-floor, hiss, or > whatever; it is clearly some interference-like kind of noise, a > sequence of transient pulses, much like the latter moments of "Geiger > Counter." I think I know what you are refering too... this reminds me of a time hen I had my cordless phone near my computer.... then whenever I was on the phone and had my hand on the mouse I would hear "computer" electroni sounds (sounds created by the data pulses and clocks on the computer bus, filtered by the conductance of my hand/arm). I've heard this on other recodings too. My old Comodore 64 used to make these sounds when the graphics were being pushed to the limits (the monitor speaker would out put these sounds). The sounds on the CD are probably from poorly isolated/sheilded equipment or cables. -Troy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) re: "kw gt" Date: 14 Nov 1996 12:29:24 -0800 -(really ROBOT)- Jef Planet wrote: <....high probability we're not gonna be able to see them in north Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk Digest V3 #18 Date: 14 Nov 1996 13:32:51 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com wrote: > > > From: "Scott M. Barnhill" > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 13:40:04 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Re: (kw) re: new album > > >I personally will never believe in any new KW album until the box is in > >my hand and the CD is spinning in the player. > > Now *there's* optimism for you... ;o) I don't suppose you're a > religious man either? Using that logic, you'd *have* to be an atheist (like > Ralf Huetter?)! hehe.. Good God, Scott (pardon that expression), however could you tell?? ;) and I'd say I'm in pretty good company, if what you say about Ralf is true! ;) > Robotically Yours, > Scott M. Barnhill > mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu > "Drehen wir am Radiophon..." Gabe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) re: "kw gt" Date: 14 Nov 1996 16:13:05 -0500 (EST) >Native Language! I hope they DO come to the States, praise the Lord YES! Now I'll second that motion! >I could make it to Los Angeles quite easily. That's only 700mi south. >'No chance they'll do San Fransisco, is there? That's only 278mi/444km >south of The Big E-Town, EUREKA!! I mean, if they play NY, everyone on >that corner of the continent can ConVerge and see the Konzert together. >Likewise for L.A in the West. Yeah! Let's have us a KRAFTWERK KONVOY!! I'm holding out for the New York City show, myself. :o) Seeing as how we all never got together to do that 'Kraftwerk Cafe' thing here in New York, maybe we can all go to the concert together. (Don't ya just love all this premature optimism and anticipation? hehe...it's what keeps the blood in circulation!) >Good God, Scott (pardon that expression), however could you tell?? ;) >and I'd say I'm in pretty good company, if what you say about Ralf is >true! ;) Good God? Now *there's* irony for ya... hehe, anyway, being an atheist, I suppose I'd find myself in the same company of Ralf and yourself. :O) Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Eins Zwei Drei Vier..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parker Subject: Re: (kw) Tour De France Date: 14 Nov 1996 23:03:22 +0000 In message <199611132145.QAA04175@broadway.gc.cuny.edu>, "Scott M. Barnhill" writes > > > Wouldn't it just make more sense to purchase the Japanese 'Computer >World' re-issue containing "Tour de France" when it is released? Have you got any information on release dates? cost? track listings? availability etc. -- Richard Parker richard@co35pn.demon.co.uk "Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Tour De France Date: 15 Nov 1996 19:28:12 +0900 Guten Tag, Kraftwerkers, Paulo Mouat wrote: >You can always wait for the much delayed japanese reissue of >Computerwelt... The release was scheduled for late August this year, >maybe it'll come out soon. Not only it has TdF, but also the B-side of >the single (I believe) and Dentaku. Richard Parker wrote: >Have you got any information on release dates? cost? track listings? >availability etc. The manufacturer "Toshiba EMI" (located Tokyo Japan) once announced that it would have been out on August 28, this year. But it was postponed, and they still haven't provided any update info. :-((( I've posted a query email to Toshiba EMI a couple of weeks before, only to make sure that they are too shy to respond. This item was (is?) once listed in www.cdeurope.com and cdnow.com. Track list - Seven tracks appeared in original album, plus the three tracks including TdF, both in original and instrumental version. I'm not sure about another extra track. When you're seriously interested, you might want to contact www.toshiba-emi.co.jp. You'd also have to watch out - most pages are only provided in Japanese doublebyte characters! (Aaugh.) Good luck, Hiroshi. p.s. I remember someone once posted that KW had an interview regarding this Japanese reissue. Does somebody have their own words for this CD? ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Electric Dreams" Date: 15 Nov 1996 21:53:54 +0000 The CD sampler "Electric Dreams" is said to contain a Kraftwerk track. Does anyone know the title of the track / length of the edit? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:53:54 +0000 Subject: (kw) "If you've got to love" The Indietective mail order catalogue lists the track "If you've got to love" by Electronic as "unreleased Elektric Music track". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Klaus Schulze Interview Date: 15 Nov 1996 21:53:53 +0000 I have been told that the current issue of the German "New Life" magazine contains an interview with Klaus Schulze, in which he mentions that he talked to Florian Schneider in March, and Schneider told him then that the new Kraftwerk album would be released this year. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be (Emmanuel Goedseels) Subject: (kw) kraftwerk records for sale Date: 16 Nov 1996 01:13:22 +0100 Hello, I realized I have too many records I never listen because I have them in several editions. I would like to sale them to other collectors. Listed below are the records I have for sale. I am running this sale like an auction. The prices listed next to the record is the minimum bid I will accept. Prices and bids are in US $. Shipping is not included. If you are interested, please e-mail personnaly. Thanks Emmanuel goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be RECORDS FOR SALE : LP KRAFTWERK Autobahn (Original Edition - Germany) 20.00 LP KRAFTWERK Computer World (Germany) 15.00 LP KRAFTWERK Die Mensch-Maschine (German Version - Germany) 20.0= 0 LP KRAFTWERK Electric Caf=E9 (German Version - Germany) 15= .00 LP KRAFTWERK First Album (Original Red Cone/Gatefold - Germany) 40.00 LP KRAFTWERK Trans Europa Express (German Version+ Poster - Germany) 30.00 CD KRAFTWERK Heute Abend (Double CD - Live 90-91 - Bootleg) 30.0= 0 CD KRAFTWERK Hyper Cerebral Machine (Live Italy '81 - Bootleg) 25.00 CD KRAFTWERK Tanz Musik (Live Switzerland '91 - Bootleg) 20.0= 0 CD KRAFTWERK Ultra Rare Trax (Bootleg) 25.00 7" KRAFTWERK Radio Activity/Antena (original '76 - France) 10.0= 0 7" KRAFTWERK Trans Europe Express (Belgium) 10.00 goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danyel Ramelow Subject: (kw) Addresses of Music Producers/Engineers????? Date: 16 Nov 1996 19:45:29 -0800 Hi everyone! If anyone out there knows some addresses of excellent producers and/or engineers, etc. , please e-mail me privately. Examples are: Brian Eno Flood Stephen Hague Pet Shop Boys and others that are your favorites Also, what is everyone's favorites?? Danyel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Yet another rumour Date: 17 Nov 1996 10:45:25 +0100 At 11:12 13/11/96 +0000, you wrote: > >Taken from alt.music.synthpop: > >> Subject: Kraftwerk >> >> A new CD will be out in February 97 I'm afraid that this message from the newsgroup could have begun (sp?) with "Rumors from the KW mailing list: a new album in 97? etc." as we say in Italy, who is born before, the egg or the chicken? :-) personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) re: Rumors, Rumors, & MORE Rumors.... Date: 17 Nov 1996 13:17:57 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- "In the beginning KRAFTWERK created the musik and the vibe. And the ambience was without harmonics, or rhythm; and silence was upon the face of the aether. And the Voice of Energy moved upon the face of the airwaves. And KRAFTWERK said, Let there be sound: and there was sound. And KRAFTWERK heard the sound, that it was good: and KRAFTWERK divided the sound from the silence." *snicker* How's THAT for a Lead for my article? I totally could not resist.... hee-hee-hee.... Rumors, rumors & still More rumors: KW touring with The Beastie Boys?! I don't Think so. A new Album I can atleast HOPE to Believe. I might even believe a tour of Europe, but, with The Beastie Boys??!! HA! Not EVEN. If KW would turn down Bowie in the '70's, they're not gonna say yes to The Beastie Boys- 'WAY different genre. Lightyears apart. Meanwhile, I'm STILL waiting for my Non-Fan of an Earther hubby of mine to show me how to scan these few KW articles I found. This Aptiva -(133 Pentium)- keeps Crashing, so, I'm afraid to Touch anything! ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Articles and producers Date: 17 Nov 1996 18:40:34 EST >>> "In the beginning KRAFTWERK created the musik and the vibe. And the ambience was without harmonics, or rhythm; and silence was upon the face of the aether. And the Voice of Energy moved upon the face of the airwaves. And KRAFTWERK said, Let there be sound: and there was sound. And KRAFTWERK heard the sound, that it was good: and KRAFTWERK divided the sound from the silence." <<< Fucking brilliant, Melanie! >>> Also, what are everyone's favorite [producers]?? <<< (Hip-Hop) The RZA DJ Premier Diamond D. Prince Paul Devastating DJ Muggs Sir Jinx QD III DJ Pooh PF Cuttin' The Ummah Marley Marl Erick Sermon The Bomb Squad Pete Rock Biz Markie DJ Mark the 45 King Jermaine Dupri (House and other types of dance music) Masters at Work Todd Terry MK Tommy Musto Frankie Knuckles Andy "Panda" Tripoli Marshall Jefferson Kevin Saunderson Steve "Silk" Hurley Mantronik (R&B) Teddy Riley (reggae) Steely & Cleevie Hope this helps you. How 'bout that KW release party, y'all? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Troy Morehouse Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Albums available Date: 18 Nov 1996 16:55:52 -0400 I have a stack of KW vinyl that I am looking to offload (Don't worry, I'm still a huge KW fan... I have these albums on DAT & CD). Not sure if this is permitted on this list, but here's what I got: Autobahn - original version 4 artist cover (LP) Autobahn - reprint version (LP) Computer World (LP) Exceller 8 - RARE (LP) Man Machine - German cover (LP) Musique Non Stop (12" EP) Numbers/ComputerWorld/ComputerLove - RARE PROMO Japanese/English sleve, english lyrics (12" EP) Radio Activity (LP) Ralf and Florian - Excellent Shape (LP) The Telephone Call (12" EP) Tour De France (12" EP) E-Mail me directly at: tmorehou@ingenia.com Troy Morehouse # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hom, Allen" Subject: (kw) RE: Addresses of Music Producers/Engineers????? Date: 18 Nov 1996 09:25:52 -0500 "The Tracking Angle" is a really good music magazine if you are into this topic. They had interviews with Jack Pfeiiffer (legendary classical engineer), Dave Parker, etc. It's an audiophiley type mag that focuses on music, and mostly non-classical. They've had articles on the Stones, Hendrix, Prince, and the include lots of indie labels. Disclaimer : I am not connected in any way to TA, just another satisfied subscriber.. ================================================================== Allen Hom Goldman, Sachs & Co. (212)902-9741 homal@aron01.jany.gs.com >---------- >From: " Danyel >Ramelow[SMTP:ramelow@acc.mcneese.edu] >Sent: Sunday, November 17, 1996 1:00 AM >To: ramelow@acc.mcneese.edu >Cc: kraftwerk@xmission.com; ebtg@vmg.co.uk; bong@commline.com >Subject: Addresses of Music Producers/Engineers????? > >Hi everyone! > > If anyone out there knows some addresses of excellent producers >and/or engineers, etc. , please e-mail me privately. Examples are: > >Brian Eno >Flood >Stephen Hague >Pet Shop Boys >and others that are your favorites > >Also, what is everyone's favorites?? > >Danyel > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spotnik@aol.com Subject: Fwd: (kw) RE: Addresses of Music Producers/Engineers????? Date: 19 Nov 1996 09:31:02 -0500 I enjoy The tracking Angle too. In fact, I just started writing for them. Frank Doris (spotnik@aol.com) --------------------- Forwarded message: Sender: owner-kraftwerk@xmission.com CC: kraftwerk@xmission.com ('kraftwerk@xmission.com'), ebtg@vmg.co.uk ('ebtg@vmg.co.uk'), bong@commline.com ('bong@commline.com') "The Tracking Angle" is a really good music magazine if you are into this topic. They had interviews with Jack Pfeiiffer (legendary classical engineer), Dave Parker, etc. It's an audiophiley type mag that focuses on music, and mostly non-classical. They've had articles on the Stones, Hendrix, Prince, and the include lots of indie labels. Disclaimer : I am not connected in any way to TA, just another satisfied subscriber.. ================================================================== Allen Hom Goldman, Sachs & Co. (212)902-9741 homal@aron01.jany.gs.com >---------- >From: " Danyel >Ramelow[SMTP:ramelow@acc.mcneese.edu] >Sent: Sunday, November 17, 1996 1:00 AM >To: ramelow@acc.mcneese.edu >Cc: kraftwerk@xmission.com; ebtg@vmg.co.uk; bong@commline.com >Subject: Addresses of Music Producers/Engineers????? > >Hi everyone! > > If anyone out there knows some addresses of excellent producers >and/or engineers, etc. , please e-mail me privately. Examples are: > >Brian Eno >Flood >Stephen Hague >Pet Shop Boys >and others that are your favorites > >Also, what is everyone's favorites?? > >Danyel > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam L Read Subject: (kw) Fwd: KW Rumour spreads! Date: 20 Nov 1996 08:42:36 +-1100 From the severed heads list. >Guys, I really hate to be the one who spreads rumours on this list, = but... This is of the kind that could make one's day. >Last night old Swedish Synthhero Mats Wigerdahl (Ubangi, Oven&Stove = both great bands in the wacky Devo-stylee) greeted my house with his = appearance. We were just drinking coffee and jamming on the theremin, when he = started ranting about Kraftwerk. Of course I'm not late to rant along with him = and soon we skipped the theremin in favour for flourescent maxi-singles, RalfundFlorians, KW livetapes etc etc. >OK here comes the "my brother's-friend-old-fiance's-niece"-part: Mats' friend from the Stockholmian synthband Mobile Homes (really bad = band BTW) has recently been recording and mixing with Karl Bartos in = D=FCsseldorf. During one drunk night at Karl's pad, ze electronic drummer starts = showing never released footage from KW videos and raving: "uhh.. we were really = ze best band, but Ralf and Florian didn't want to release records so I had = to do it myself... That's why I left. They are recording a new album right now... new stuff. It will probably be released in a year or so, but they are very nervous that they're not "with it" anymore. That they can't be first with everything any longer..." >Karl Bartos was wearing tasteless snowwashed jeans and had a loose grip when they shook hands first time... > ***Tommie J=F6nsson*** >"Tom Jones - calling from a phone booth" >email: >fascist.redneck@dwight-yoakam.com >web: >http://www.spray.se/~tommie/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melzer" Subject: (kw) MTV Robots Date: 20 Nov 1996 20:23:45 +0100 Oh no. They are palying "THE ROBOTS" video on MTV Europe. I get thru sattelite and have no decoder so I just got the sound. Que lastima! Michael Melzer e-mail: h8551159@asterix.wu-wien.ac.at ¿ Hay una discoteca por aquí ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) *ANALOG ALERT*! Date: 21 Nov 1996 22:50:45 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- Guten Tag! Konnichiwa! Buenos Dias! Bon Jour! Ya-Ta-Hey! I'm going to be away from the Computer for 2-3 days, staying at Mom's house in town, so, I wanted to tell this little story before I go off-line.... *sniff* There's a band called Attila & Dave Project from San Fransisco -(retro-'70's ProgRock, sort of)- who played here in May at College of the Redwoods; -1 lead guitar, 1 full drumset, & 1 guy on bass guitar with a coupla Old SYNTHS- Hey! That MINI MOOG looks Very Familiar! Sure enough, the AKTIVITAT #4 cover shows a still shot from the Autobahn "Sound Check" Video, and Ralf is playing the same MOOG! -(same exact type of model, I mean)- I spotted that puppy right off!*YEAH*! Gyro/Johnny took LOTS of pictures. -(Outdoor concert, lovely day. They're on a FlatBed semi, Redwoods in the background.)- We sent prints to Attila & Dave, and they called last week to let us know they're coming up again and invited us to their gig. -(Wed. Nov 20.)- I hitch-hiked in the Rain, wearing the band T-Shirt they'd given me last time, and I took along some enlargements -(of the previous fotos)- and my small batch of KW articles- "See? 'Same MINI MOOG! 'Sacred SYNTH!" I explained all about KW, and they thought it was pretty cool. -'Just goes to show they have the same Good Taste in Early Analog SYNTHS! It's all about Good Vibes! -(Good thing the Gig was INdoors this time- lousy November weather in Humboldt County!)- They gave me another T-Shirt, to thank me for my "Dedication". Gee, thanx! 'Nice guys-and they ARE talented- I like various music- but, I save the REAL Dedication & Worship for you-know-who! :] Okay, I'm off to see the TREK Flick tomorrow, and I'll be attending a REAL Tribal Gathering over the WeekEnd! It's PowWow time! NorthWest Inter-Tribal. |+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+<>+| -^-May Your Path be Smooth and Your Song be in Harmony-^- ROBOT "Sister of Puma" -(no wonder I love Cats; Puma is my Spirit Guide!)- http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT http://www.scifi.com/members/lounge/profiles/R/ROBOT -(same foto, different text....)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) SATOSHI and MELZER pls read Date: 22 Nov 1996 13:08:14 +0100 dear fellow listies, excuse this off topic but I had an hardware crash and I had no other way to contact this other two listies. SATOSHI: after your mex I went to L. Morandi's house to ask for the situation. I finally found the packet he still had to send you. I will personally send it to you next saturday, nov. 23. I don't know why he did not send it, maybe he just forget to even if I keep him reminded when your mexs came. I can't send it before because I am on a long-hour job now (as well as Morandi, after all) and post office are closed when I can get out. MELZER: another situation, but same as above... :-) just a bit of patience... end of this, I'll never post personal mexs again, excuse me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) New CD? Date: 25 Nov 1996 22:44:57 +0900 Guten Tag, Kraftwerkers, Some of you might already notice it, that several Net CD shops are going to introduce the latest brand-new work of Kraftwerk. Try CD Europe , and you'll find a 'new 5-inch single' to be out on 29/Jan/1997. Catalog number is already provided. Is it true this time? I know that most fans are tired of dumb rumors, and that we only need a *truth*. Thanks a lot in advance, to those who can *prove* it. (No more virus-spreading rumors!) Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK (/2) credits Date: 25 Nov 1996 19:29:28 +0100 (MET) Hello all! I recently noticed that on the 'KRAFTWERK' bootleg CD (Germanofon) the credits are given in English whilst they are given in German on 'KRAFTWERK 2'. Strange thing. Now, does anyone know why this is the case? First guess would be that the people at Germanofon used a German vinyl copy for KW2 and a non-German for KW. But there is no non-German release listed in the (i.e. Lazlo's) discography. To owners of original LPs: Which language are the credits on them? Just curious Thomas P.S.: Lazlo, why don't you start a Sigue Sigue Sputnik mailing list? I would, but I don't have the facility :( Please think about it!!! -desperate fan- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) re: *NEW* CD Single??!! Date: 25 Nov 1996 11:29:43 -0800 -(Ich bin ein ROBOT)- -Dear Fellow 'WerKers- I'm BA-A-a-ack! What a Week-End! The New TREK Movie was Excellent, the PowWow was Excellent- and now Hiroshi-San brings us News of the Most Excellent *NEW* KW CD Single, 29-Jan-'97, mark your Calenders! I hope this means a complete Album will be released very soon after that. Jeez- cdeurope's Prices are OutRAGEously High. ouch. Like, they want $64.95 plus Shipping & Handling for CLEO's The Capitol Years?! -(For InFerior Sound Quality, even)- No WAY! I only paid $27 for mine. + Tax made it an even $30 at The Disc Jockey. It's a chain-store, I think. I got the Esperanto CD for $16. Average price for Domestics. Anyway, now we know what to LooK for in the Stores! Domo, Hiroshi-San! -(Incoming Email Alert!)- 'Tag, Thomas Bieler! Sique Sique Sputnik? Gee, I ain't heard them in Years! KooL! Hm-m-m, Deutsche/Englisches credits on KW I&II? I have the double album with the Pretty Oscilloscope Trace- English text, except for Song Titles.*shrug*. UK re-issue, I guess. I wonder- do the Original German versions, separate Albums, have the same Cute Fotos inside?? 'just curious. C U in CYBERSPACE! Resistance is Futile. You will be Assimilated. ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT http://www.scifi.com/members/lounge/profiles/R/ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) re: *NEW* CD Single??!! Date: 25 Nov 1996 11:29:43 -0800 -(Ich bin ein ROBOT)- -Dear Fellow 'WerKers- I'm BA-A-a-ack! What a Week-End! The New TREK Movie was Excellent, the PowWow was Excellent- and now Hiroshi-San brings us News of the Most Excellent *NEW* KW CD Single, 29-Jan-'97, mark your Calenders! I hope this means a complete Album will be released very soon after that. Jeez- cdeurope's Prices are OutRAGEously High. ouch. Like, they want $64.95 plus Shipping & Handling for CLEO's The Capitol Years?! -(For InFerior Sound Quality, even)- No WAY! I only paid $27 for mine. + Tax made it an even $30 at The Disc Jockey. It's a chain-store, I think. I got the Esperanto CD for $16. Average price for Domestics. Anyway, now we know what to LooK for in the Stores! Domo, Hiroshi-San! -(Incoming Email Alert!)- 'Tag, Thomas Bieler! Sique Sique Sputnik? Gee, I ain't heard them in Years! KooL! Hm-m-m, Deutsche/Englisches credits on KW I&II? I have the double album with the Pretty Oscilloscope Trace- English text, except for Song Titles.*shrug*. UK re-issue, I guess. I wonder- do the Original German versions, separate Albums, have the same Cute Fotos inside?? 'just curious. C U in CYBERSPACE! Resistance is Futile. You will be Assimilated. ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT http://www.scifi.com/members/lounge/profiles/R/ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) New CD? Date: 25 Nov 1996 21:16:51 +0100 (NFT) > Try CD Europe , and you'll find a 'new 5-inch > single' to be out on 29/Jan/1997. Catalog number is already provided. Also, from the Esprit Mailorder pages (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/esprit/U2211-04.txt) : > KRAFTWERK T.B.A (BRAND NEW Japanese CD single, due Feb '97) > UK 11.99 / $ 19.00 > KRAFTWERK T.B.A (BRAND NEW Japanese CD Album, due Feb '97) > UK 21.99 / $ 34.00 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) New CD? Date: 25 Nov 1996 15:39:51 -0500 (EST) >> KRAFTWERK T.B.A (BRAND NEW Japanese CD single, due Feb '97) >> UK 11.99 / $ 19.00 >> KRAFTWERK T.B.A (BRAND NEW Japanese CD Album, due Feb '97) >> UK 21.99 / $ 34.00 Why Japanese? Is it possible that this album they speak of is simply the 'Computer World' +3 Japanese re-issue we've heard so much about finally being released? Likewise, perhaps the single is just a selection taken from the re-issue of CW as well. I for one would LOVE to think that it's actually *new* KW material, but I guess time will tell for certain. If it *is* a new KW single and album, I'll start sleeping outside the record store tonight. :O) Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) New CD? Date: 25 Nov 1996 22:03:44 +0100 (NFT) > >> KRAFTWERK T.B.A (BRAND NEW Japanese CD Album, due Feb '97) > >> UK 21.99 / $ 34.00 > > Why Japanese? Is it possible that this album they speak of is > simply the 'Computer World' +3 Japanese re-issue we've heard so much about > finally being released? No, the "Computer World" reissue got an extra entry in the Esprit Mailorder catalogue, so this must be something different. By the way: CDEurope lists also a new Japanese Kraftwerk "Best Of" compilation (TOCP-50115), to be released on December 4th... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) That hypothetical new album Date: 25 Nov 1996 21:17:46 EST Hi. Does anyone here know Sylvia Rhone's (Elektra's President) e-address so we can ask whether these new album rumors will foment into a real, tangible object that we can purchase what we've been waiting for 10 years for? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) RIF! SIBA! Date: 25 Nov 1996 21:01:40 -0800 Hey! The Robots ain't no Dummies! OK??? email to:gyrgrls@razorlogic.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) re: "RIF! SIBA!" -(??!!)- Date: 25 Nov 1996 23:26:53 -0800 -(yes, it's really ROBOT this time)- Good Grief! Not again! I'm sorry. Gyro Gearloose/Johnny knows how mad I get when he messes with MY Email! I assume RIF = Resisistance is Futile, but, SIBA?? -(TYPO)- You Will Be Assimilated, I guess. It's bad enough that he'd play a Joke on my Fellow KW Fans, but, it's even worse that he screwed it up- 'DorkWad! But, he IS right in saying, "The ROBOTs ain't no Dummies." -(sic)- After all, they ARE Geniuses!! So, for That brilliant Observation, he deserves forgiveness- Just this Once. Anyway- nevermind Gyro. I'm trying to surf the Net to see if I can find an Email address for Sylvia Rhone @ Elektra so maybe we can find out what's going on with this Greatly AnTicip....Pated *NEW* Album- And IS this "New Single", due 29-Jan-'97, a NEW Song or another Re-WERK?? We shall soon see.... ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK (/2) credits Date: 26 Nov 1996 21:32:11 +1100 (EST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Thomas Bieler wrote: > Hello all! > > I recently noticed that on the 'KRAFTWERK' bootleg CD (Germanofon) the > credits are given in English whilst they are given in German on > 'KRAFTWERK 2'. Strange thing. I have the original PHILLIPS pressings and this is how the credits appear on them. K1 in English K2 in German _---_ Philip Jackson ()_() ? V. .V Melbourne |. .| ! \ / Australia \ / o pdj@mpx.com.au o # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MIRIAN MOSS" <9659319@mull.sms.ed.ac.uk> Subject: (kw) new and maybe optimistic Date: 26 Nov 1996 14:13:58 +0000 new material - does anyone believe in alternate universes? lonely kraftwerk, trekker etc who enjoys strange words whether in english or german romance isn't dead: it has just passed onto the other side. m.l.moss@ed.ac.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pawel Kalinowski Subject: (kw) I am back Date: 26 Nov 1996 17:05:29 +0100 Dear friends, I am back in this list, so you can expect some more krftwrk info from Polen coming from time to time. Greetz to Klaus and Scott. Pawel Kalinowski ...for beauty we will pay... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) New CD? Date: 26 Nov 1996 19:45:56 +0900 Guten Tag, Kraftwerkers, >By the way: CDEurope lists also a new Japanese Kraftwerk "Best Of" >compilation (TOCP-50115), to be released on December 4th... I'm sorry we'd better forget it. It has nothing new. mentions the track list. (with some dumb Japanese doublebyte characters) 1. Geiger Counter 2. Radioactivity 3. Antenna 4. Europe Endless 5. Showroom Dummies 6. Trans-Europe Express 7. The Robots 8. The Model 9. The Man Machine The cat no. TOCP implies it's from "Toshiba EMI", Tokyo Japan. CDEurope lists "Computerworld+3" also, which hasn't appeared yet. :-( BTW does anybody checked German "New Life" magazine, in which Klaus Schulze quoted Florian Schneider? Is anything mentioned about Kraftwerk? Or, if possible, can *I* obtain the article? I'd like to try read it. Auf wiedersehen! Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) TOCP-50115 Date: 26 Nov 1996 18:53:44 +0100 (NFT) > >By the way: CDEurope lists also a new Japanese Kraftwerk "Best Of" > >compilation (TOCP-50115), to be released on December 4th... > > I'm sorry we'd better forget it. It has nothing new. At least it has a new cover in comparison to TOCP-7913, of which it appears to be a re-release. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: (kw) really to ROBOT! Date: 26 Nov 1996 19:21:08 +0100 (MET) Hy ROBOT! > -(Incoming Email Alert!)- 'Tag, Thomas Bieler! Sique Sique Sputnik? > Gee, I ain't heard them in Years! KooL! You *SHOULD* do it again soon!!! Or sell you SSS stuff to me ;-) > Hm-m-m, Deutsche/Englisches > credits on KW I&II? I have the double album with the Pretty Oscilloscope > Trace- English text, except for Song Titles.*shrug*. UK re-issue, I > guess. I wonder- do the Original German versions, separate Albums, have > the same Cute Fotos inside?? 'just curious. C U in CYBERSPACE! Btw, where did you learn all this German? Did you spend some time here? Greetings, Thomas | _ S _ The Sputnik Corp. - Don't ask me, I've been there! S/ \S # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) New CD? Date: 26 Nov 1996 17:07:29 +0000 (GMT) hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA):- > Try CD Europe , and you'll find a 'new 5-inch > single' to be out on 29/Jan/1997. Catalog number is already provided. I've just been emailed by someone who says the single is called 'Rendezvous', with an "unofficial title" of 'The Inspector'. Weren't these titles mentioned in other rumours some time ago (perhaps in 'Aktivitaet?)? Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) re; Japanese 'Best Of Kraftwerk' release Date: 26 Nov 1996 14:37:47 EST > From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:45:56 +0900 > Subject: Re: (kw) New CD? > > Guten Tag, Kraftwerkers, > >>By the way: CDEurope lists also a new Japanese Kraftwerk "Best Of" >>compilation (TOCP-50115), to be released on December 4th... > > I'm sorry we'd better forget it. It has nothing new. > > mentions the track list. (with some dumb Japanese doublebyte characters) > 1. Geiger Counter > 2. Radioactivity > 3. Antenna > 4. Europe Endless > 5. Showroom Dummies > 6. Trans-Europe Express > 7. The Robots > 8. The Model > 9. The Man Machine > > The cat no. TOCP implies it's from "Toshiba EMI", Tokyo Japan. The above tracklisting is exactly the same as the 1993 'The Best of Kraftwerk' release, the catalogue number of which is TOCP-7913 and it is indeed a Toshiba-EMI release.Therefore, it seems that this new issue (TOCP-50115) will be but a re-issue, either as part of a budget price series or with new artwork maybe? Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK (/2) credits Date: 26 Nov 1996 20:47:44 +0900 Guten Tag, Kraftwerkers, >I recently noticed that on the 'KRAFTWERK' bootleg CD (Germanofon) the >credits are given in English whilst they are given in German on >'KRAFTWERK 2'. Strange thing. >Now, does anyone know why this is the case? Hmm... I also have both, plus Ralf & Florian. All three are written in German. No release data is provided anywhere. (???) All I can say is, that I got all of them in a shop in Tokyo, and that the shop said they're imported from Germany. How about assuming that there're two or more bootleg releases? mit Computerliebe, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BLANKS Subject: (kw) re; Japanese 'Best Of Kraftwerk' release Date: 27 Nov 1996 06:06:21 +1015 Ian Calder wrote: > The above tracklisting is exactly the same as the 1993 'The Best of Kraftwerk' > release, the catalogue number of which is TOCP-7913 and it is indeed a > Toshiba-EMI release.Therefore, it seems that this new issue (TOCP-50115) > will be but a re-issue, either as part of a budget price series or with new > artwork maybe? Yes, Exactly the same. It discounted only 300yen ($3.3 US). SAKURA Tokyo Japan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "Rendezvous"/"The Inspector" Date: 27 Nov 1996 12:55:01 +0100 (NFT) > > Try CD Europe , and you'll find a 'new 5-inch > > single' to be out on 29/Jan/1997. Catalog number is already provided. > > I've just been emailed by someone who says the single is called 'Rendezvous', > with an "unofficial title" of 'The Inspector'. Weren't these titles mentioned > in other rumours some time ago (perhaps in 'Aktivitaet?)? Yes, in autumn 1993 it was rumoured that Kraftwerk were going to release two singles titled "The Inspector" and "Rendezvous" (plus a studio recording of the updated version of "The Man Machine") in winter 1993. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pawel Kalinowski Subject: (kw) (no subject) Date: 27 Nov 1996 15:21:30 +0100 Dear Electricians, Now I work for the computer games industry what means bickering about every bit with the programmers, graphicians, etc. And naturally I am interested in the influences of the IES (industrial electronic sound) in games. Once I read in an old game magazine KW was consulting music to the game Lost Patrol (produced around 1989 for Amiga and Atari ST). Could anyone tell me something more about it? Why and how was KW engaged in game(s?)? Maybe it was just an error of the mag? Btw - it is quite an unusual story - I am KW fan only because their music was so simple to resample. In middle eighties I was a keen user of Atari 800XL compy and one of my friends "converted" some tunes of KW to this small 8-bitter. I heard all famous tunes of KW first generated by a 4-bits, 4-channels POKEY chip (the one responsible for sound in my compy). Much later I bought Electric Cafe tape only because I wanted to sample it! And there it all started... Pawel /pirx/ Kalinowski ps. music in Lost Patrol is really good and makes me think mag was right! ...for beauty we will pay... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pawel Kalinowski Subject: (kw) (no subject) Date: 27 Nov 1996 15:20:41 +0100 Dear Electricians, My big brothy had bought a satellite receiver and during tuning it I spotted Tour De France. Fantastic b/w spot with all four heroes riding their bikes. The chanell was VIVA ZWEI (probably - the one with a deformed green plus sign in left down corner of a telly), the time - around 10p.m., the date 96-11-26. Please tell me was it a special programme about industrial electronic sound? I did not understand much, but talking heads used words like gesamtkunstwerk or something. Please write if there are any interesting (and cyclic) programmes about THE MUSIK available on eutelsat, hot bird or something. Pawel /pirx/ Kalinowski ...for beauty we will pay... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) Melody Maker Date: 28 Nov 1996 09:13:41 +0000 I bought Melody Maker today for a change (I remember a time in the 80s when I bought it religiously for ten years waiting for any KW news) and there it was on the news page.... "KRAFTWERK are strongly tipped to release a new LP in the first half of next year.The seminal Krautrock band have been in the studio in Dusseldorf working on material over the past few months though their record label ,EMI,says there is no firm release date.The band's last release was "The Mix" a compilation album of old material remixed by contempory producers" 1. I thought they "reworked" the material themselves. 2. Does anyone oblect to KW being referred to as seminal or KRAUTROCK?I do!! This is good news. I now have a spring in my step and complete strangers are liable to get smiled at on the tube Dave H # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) Elektra WebSite? Date: 28 Nov 1996 01:35:38 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- Happy Turkey Day!*gobble-gobble*! Well, I searched 'yahoo' and found a WebSite for Elektra Records/Entertainment on something called Pathfinders. FREEBIE Alert! So, I joined and posted some KW blurbs on a few Bulletin Boards and sent Email to "Ask Elektra" for ANY info re: TOCP-40022 KRAFTWERK CD single, 29-JAN-'97, "Rendezvous"/"The Inpector". Now it's a simple matter of "Hurry up and wait" and see if anybody responds. :| ROBOZOMBIE I could NOT find an Email Address for Sylvia Rhone, Chairman of Elektra Entertainment Group. But, I found a Snail Address.... Sylvia Rhone, Elektra Entertainment 75 Rockefeller Plaza New York, NY 10019-6907 ....I have no idea if she is still reachable at this address. There was a rumor that she left and was replaced by Seymour Stein of SIRE. -(?!!)- I dunno- 'couldn't find HIS name ANYwhere. But, Ms. Rhone is mentioned as a Producer in a whole bunch of artists' reviews. ps: I sent Email to Thomas Bieler and Miriam Moss, but, it got Bounced back to me. 'Must be subspace interference. TALK to me, Guys! There's no place like OHM.... ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -("Public" Foto & Profile. FREE to Join, but, Anyone can PEEK!)- http://www.scifi.com -"Welcome to The DOMINION"- General Admittance http://www.scifi.com/members/lounge/profiles/R/ROBOT -("Private" Admittance. FREE, but, you must Join in order to view Members Profiles. I'm all over CYBERSPACE, Spreading The VIBES! KRAFTWERK RULES THE UNIVERSE!!!!)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Elektra WebSite? Date: 28 Nov 1996 10:56:01 -0500 (EST) > I could NOT find an Email Address for Sylvia Rhone, Chairman of >Elektra Entertainment Group. But, I found a Snail Address.... > >Sylvia Rhone, Elektra Entertainment >75 Rockefeller Plaza >New York, NY 10019-6907 Were you able to find a phone number for her in her office perhaps at that address? I'm located right here by the city so it would be a simple matter for me to just phone her up and ask her directly what the scoop is. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "...Leave Paris in the morning with TEE..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Date: 28 Nov 1996 11:29:21 EST >>> 1. I thought they "reworked" the material themselves. <<< Yes. Wassup, y'all? It's tha MuzikNut, comin' to you from Money-Makin' Manhattan! It's great to be back--even though it's only 'til Sunday. I hop all y'all USAers out there have a phat Thanksgiving! I wonder...would R&F eat cybernetic turkeys???? >>> There was a rumor that she left and was replaced by Seymour Stein of SIRE. <<< No. Sylvia Rhone is President of Elektra Records and CEO of East West America. Seymour Stein oversees (CEO) the entire Elektra Entertainment Group, which also includes Sire (I miss them through WB!) and Asylum. Both have equal input over Elektra and Asylum, but Sire is only presided over by Stein, East West America only by Rhone. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK credits Date: 28 Nov 1996 19:59:59 +0100 > I recently noticed that on the 'KRAFTWERK' bootleg CD (Germanofon) [credits in english and deutsch] on the vertigo label black double album (K I and K II) credits are in english. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Japanese Re-releases Date: 28 Nov 1996 21:14:16 +0000 While we're discussing Japanese Kraftwerk releases: I have heard that the "Radioactivity", "Trans Europe Express" and "The Man Machine" CD's have been re-released in Japan during this summer. Is this true? And if it is, are there any important differences to the original releases (remastering, altered artwork, booklet texts etc.)? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) Hi there lads. Date: 29 Nov 1996 12:15:12 +0100 Well, hello! As I'm new to this mailing list, I suppose I ought to introduce myself. My name is Marcus Fjellström, from Sweden (that beautiful little country up in northern Europe), and I'm a great listener to Kraftwerk's music. I am a musician/composer with an emphasis on a sort of electronic art music. Which means - Kraftwerk has meant a lot to me. I am really looking forward to future discussions in this list, and of course I'm even further looking further (well, how about that) to February 1997 - or whenever the glorious day will come... For now - hi, everyone. /Mac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "2 on 1" Date: 29 Nov 1996 16:59:18 +0100 (NFT) I've spotted the following Kraftwerk (bootleg?) "2 on 1" CD releases on a saleslist today: - Computer World / Electric Cafe (AIR Ltd., Italy 1996) - The Man Machine / Radioactivity (AIR Ltd., Italy 1996) - Autobahn / Trans Europe Express (AIR Ltd., Italy 1996) - The Model / Showroom Dummies (AIR Ltd., Italy 1996) Does anyone know if these are official or unoffical releases? I guess the "Model/Showroom Dummies" one contains the two Cleopatra compilations, or is it something different? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) another case of ad-spotting Date: 30 Nov 1996 16:47:26 +0100 hello, listies. I just recovered from a hard crash and a bodily one: I had strong fever and influence for some days, so people waiting for something from me please forgive me. tonight I spotted the very beginning of Ohm sweet ohm on the tv ad of a brand of ski equipments. I don't know if the ad track is some commercial song sampling K or a track made just for the ad. anyway, nothing kraftwerkian at all. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Schneider Subject: (kw) translation-help!!! Date: 30 Nov 1996 16:11:25 GMT Hi, this is probably off-list, but - I've found an article from Austria about Kraftwek which I've translated into English. Could someone PLEASE tell me how to sernd a file from a disk via e-mail? The article is quite long; so I had intended to give my e-mail address in order that anyone who might want the translation could e-mail me, and then I'd forward it to them. Our uni uses Pegasus e-mail, and the file is in MS-Word for Windows format. I would have e-mailed Ralf or Florian for help on this, but they seem to be out this afternnon:) Any help would be much appreciated. Regards, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Japanese Re-releases Date: 30 Nov 1996 01:28:06 +0900 Guten Tag, Kraftwerkers, >While we're discussing Japanese Kraftwerk releases: >I have heard that the "Radioactivity", "Trans Europe Express" and >"The Man Machine" CD's have been re-released in Japan during this summer. >Is this true? Umm... It seems there weren't such releases. I've never seen them in our local stores, and old releases are still around. Ciao, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) KW Articles in html Date: 30 Nov 1996 17:06:52 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- Jeff Schneider wrote, concerning his translated Article: >....Pegasus.... MS Word for Windows.... >I would have e-mailed Ralf or Florian for help on this, but they seem >to be out this afternoon:) Duh, that WAS a JOKE, right?? If you DO have their Email Addresses, PLEASE write to them and ask about their upcoming CD! Hm-m, Schneider is a common last name, minus the -(hyphen)- Esleben. Any relation? ROBO-Cousins, perhaps? Hee-Hee! Dream ON.... Well, my husband made a MESS of my K-philes, but, as soon as I can FORCE him to straighten it out, I'll be able to send out copies of these half-dozen Articles I have, with a Few RARE Fotos. -(html format. The entire page is an "Image", text AND pictures.)- There's this really KooL shot of R&F standing with a very strange looking ROBOT. -(FUTURE, dated Aug.'78.)- An early-model Klone, maybe? MASSIVE DOWN-LOAD ALERT!! It WAS 5Mb altogether, which takes about 20 minutes to send/receive. -(Sorry, Klaus! Gyro PROMISED he'd FIX it tonight and LOOK at what he's scanning, and let me CHECK it beFore sending this time!)- Meanwhile, I'll be writing up a list with detailed foto descriptions.... Please bear with me. I'm having an extremely hard time getting my husband to co-operate with me on this. I wish I knew how to do it myself, because his heart just isn't in it. ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender.