From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Album Announcements Date: 01 Mar 1997 16:41:07 +0000 While EMI Electrola continues to deny any concrete plans to release a new Kraftwerk album soon, such a release was announced in two more German music magazines, Zillo 3/1997 and Spex 3/1997. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Date: 01 Mar 1997 18:21:39 +0100 Hi! Just a message for all the dutch folks (in dutch, hope that's okay).. Zeg, wie gaat er allemaal naar Tribal Gathering ivm Kraftwerk (en bands als Orbital niet te vergeten natuurlijk :)) Misschien een goed idee om iets met kaarten en/of vervoer vanuit Nederland te regelen?? Prive e-mail wordt ten zeerste gewaardeerd! Groenten, Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Date: 01 Mar 1997 18:23:28 +0100 Hi! Just a message for all the dutch folks (in dutch, hope that's okay).. Zeg, wie gaat er allemaal naar Tribal Gathering ivm Kraftwerk (en bands als Orbital niet te vergeten natuurlijk :)) Misschien een goed idee om iets met kaarten en/of vervoer vanuit Nederland te regelen?? Prive e-mail wordt ten zeerste gewaardeerd! Groenten, Johan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Werner.Knappe@t-online.de (Werner Knappe) Subject: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk live Date: 01 Mar 1997 18:33 +0100 hi, wow, so many rumours about live-gigs this year. after waiting more then 5 years for a new album we really expect a "world tour"??? ("from Luton to Lisbon" Fisher Z - Red Skies over Paradise) Luton - Paris - Sweden - perhaps my hometown (500 inhabitants, 300 animals) ;-) can't believe it, can't believe it... see ya in Luton Werner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Werner.Knappe@t-online.de (Werner Knappe) Subject: (kw) Collecting records Date: 01 Mar 1997 18:56 +0100 hi, Craig wrote: > I am 30 years old and have all of Kraftwerks releases apart from the >Organisation album Tone Float and Man Machine on red vinyl. I haven't really >bothered with the 7 inch vinyl but do have some rare material. If anyone knows >of a copy of Tone Float available for sale, please let me know. does that mean, you have every 12" vinyl of KW available except this two (exactly 3 cause man machine on red vinyl is available as french and german edition)? have you ever seen Klaus Zaepke's discography? (http://home.t-online.de/home/Zaepke/Kraftwer.htm - great stuff Klaus!!) not even Klaus has everything available (Klaus: saw your wantlist in MF 2/97, if this is that all you are looking for - WOW!!) hundreds of KW related 12" records!! has anyone more than 50% of them?? i'm collecting more than 10 years but the amount Klaus mentioned is unbelievable ciao werner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Collecting records Date: 01 Mar 1997 22:09:10 +0000 > (http://home.t-online.de/home/Zaepke/Kraftwer.htm - great stuff Klaus!!) Thanks for the compliment! :-) > not even Klaus has everything available (Klaus: saw your wantlist in MF 2/97, > if this is that all you are looking for - WOW!!) To avoid misunderstandings: I do not personally own all the records which are listed in the discography that was co-written by me. My personal collection of Kraftwerk records is actually rather modest, as I'm more into collecting press material (that's the area where I am a completist - if anyone is interested in swapping photocopies of Kraftwerk press articles, please get in contact!). The reason why my wants-ad in MF 2/97 was relatively short is that I don't collect all the countless world-wide pressings, but only releases which feature different edits or mixes. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Collecting records Date: 01 Mar 1997 23:48:30 +0000 Werner Knappe wrote: > > hi, > > Craig wrote: > > I am 30 years old and have all of Kraftwerks releases apart from the > >Organisation album Tone Float and Man Machine on red vinyl. > does that mean, you have every 12" vinyl of KW available except this two > (exactly 3 cause man machine on red vinyl is available as french and german > edition)? have you ever seen Klaus Zaepke's discography? has anyone more than > 50% of them?? i'm collecting more than 10 years but the amount Klaus mentioned > is unbelievable Actually i took this as sarcasm - perhaps a subtle dig at all the anal Kraftwerk obsessives on this list? (only joking :-)) see you in Luton, -- Jon Alsbury, J.Alsbury@unl.ac.uk Learning Centre G132, http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~een5alsburj University of North London, 0171 607 2789 x2455 London, N7 6PP. 0171 753 7037 (fax) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark valleley Subject: (kw) Beats and Cycles Date: 02 Mar 1997 20:35:26 -0800 1. This months issue of 'London Cyclist' contains an article about Kraftwerk and their (or rather Ralf's) passion for pedal power! The magazine is produced by the London Cycling Campaign which exists to promote cycling in London. The article is basically made up of extracts from Pascal Bussy's book 'Kraftwerk: Man Machine and Music' and so if you've read it you won't learn anything new. The article does mention that this book was republished in Feb. 1997. Has anyone seen a copy of the republished version? Does it constitute a new edition with additional material? (Not that much has happened for Pascal to write about since the book was orginally published!!!) 2. Does anyone out there possess a copy of the 'Bleep and Booster' CD? IMHO these guys get as close to sounding like Kraftwerk without actually trying too hard to do so! One of the two Guys was originally in ABC. There was an article about them in the good old Sunday Times in about 1994 which pointed to their similarities with Kraftwerk. I picked up a copy of the CD and was very impressed with it. I would recommend it to fellow list members. 3. I've got my red shirt and black tie ready for May 24th! Can't Wait! Regards Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk article to appear in Vox magazine Date: 03 Mar 1997 16:13:32 EST The next issue of the UK magazine 'Vox' will contain an article about Kraftwerk. It should be available in about three weeks or so from now. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kingsnake Subject: (kw) ROBOT's Email ist Kaputt! Date: 03 Mar 1997 00:36:33 -0800 -(Yes, it's really ROBOT@humboldt1.com, borrowing my husband's Email folder. Please do not hit "reply to" on this message.)- *ARGH* "Sub-Space Communications are jammed, Captain!" Dear Fellow KRAFTWERKers, Please bear with me- I can see a couple of new Mail List postings in the Archives, although my owm Email is all messed up. I did receive a few messages earlier today, but, my responses are still sitting in the outbox. Now I can't even receive incoming messages. -(NetScrape4.0 is BOGUS! I'm surfing on 3.0 again.)- I also lost some BookMarks, so, I'm trying to get ALL of my KRAFTWERK goodies back. Meanwhile, if anyone is trying to contact me, please keep trying- I'm attepting to send K-philes to Craig and Joe. Hang in there.... Luton WHO???? ....*sigh*.... Can somebody smuggle me over there in a large Dog Crate or something so I don't freeze/asphixiate in the regular luggage section of the plane? Hop a FreightBoat, maybe? *whimper* =[ ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) kraftwerk on realaudio Date: 04 Mar 1997 10:42:35 +0000 Taken from alt.music.techno and alt.music.synthpop: > Subject: kraftwerk on realaudio > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:56:57 -0800 > > for those interested in the godfathers of techno... > we did a retrospective on kraftwerk on our radio show a little while > back and have it uploaded in realaudio we do an alt.music show on > wmnf, 88.5 fm in tampa: check it out... > http://wmnf.org > hurry, the realaudio upload is only going to up for another week or > so, then we are going to replace it with a mix show we did with DJ Tommy > Boy (progressive house and jungle) > N-joi! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) 1971 concert poster Date: 04 Mar 1997 11:21:41 +0000 Good news: I've spotted one of the mega-rare "Naked Woman on Cone" concert posters from 1971 (01.07.1971) on a saleslist. Bad news: The price is DM 349,00... If anybody is interested to buy it despite of the adventurous price, mail me for the dealer's address. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jtalbert@ford.com (John Talbert) Subject: (kw) "REbirth" Software URL Date: 04 Mar 1997 09:29:38 -0500 >From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) >Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:05:16 EST >Subject: (kw) "ReBirth" download > >>> Where is it??? <<< >[...]I downloaded it at http://propellerheads.se on the internet. "ReBirth" is >a virtual TB-303 and TR-808 program which you can use to create acid on your >computer.[...] Thanks for the posting, however, I ran into two problems: (1) http://propellerheads.se is not in English, so I can't understand it. (2) Even though I can't truly read the page, this appears to be a web site for an internet provider and there didn't seem to be any links that were music related at all. Could it be possible that a portion of the URL is missing? If you can, please either repost the full URL or email me privately. Thanks. See you in Luton! -John (MNS) Talbert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: (kw) "REbirth" Software URL Date: 04 Mar 1997 15:37:53 EST Hy, the correct URL is www.propellerheads.se The software is really cool, don't try it without connecting your mac to your stereo! It sounds great. Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) "ReBirth" URL Date: 04 Mar 1997 19:58:17 EST Sorry, everyone, I gave you the incorrect URL for this program! The correct URL is http://www.propellerheads.se on the internet (I always forget how important that "www" is--many sites don't use that!), and you'll get your muthafukkin' "ReBirth"--da bomb, knowhutimsayin'? And a big shout-out to fellow 'werker Aaron J. Grier who told me (us on the list, actually) about this program! Tell us what you though of the program! I saw in the imports section of HMV at 34th and 6th Avenue (Herald Square) in NYC two albums called "Tribal Gathering," from the UK. I assume that these are live recordings from the concert, so, will there be a new Tribal Gathering album this year with live KW recordings maybe???? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) ADMINISTRIVIA: Mail problems reported fixed Date: 06 Mar 1997 13:37:40 -0700 (MST) As you probably noticed, xmission has been munching a lot of mailing list email lately. According to Pete Ashdown at xmission, this problem *should* now be fixed. If you notice that you are missing any list email, please contact me directly and let me know. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Hegymegi-Kiss Subject: (kw) New Album Unofficial Tracklist Date: 06 Mar 1997 22:50:38 +0100 Dear KW Fellows, Someone sent the so awaited new album's unofficial track list recently. I erased this message accidentaly and need it now. Could you please re-send it to me by private mail (phegymeg@pratique.fr) or via the list. Thanks a lot! By the way and for your information, I saw a japanese printed "Best of Kraftwerk" in a parisian recordstore. There are 9 (original & not remixed) titles on it. So nothing new but some fans could be interested... Paul Paul HEGYMEGI-KISS ________________________________ http://www.pratique.fr/~phegymeg phegymeg@pratique.fr ________________________________ Paris - FRANCE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rafa" Subject: RE: (kw) New Album Unofficial Tracklist Date: 07 Mar 1997 01:21:04 -0000 > Someone sent the so awaited new album's unofficial track list recently. I > erased this message accidentaly and need it now. Please, can you send that information again, please? Thank you Rafa. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Digital synthesis Date: 06 Mar 1997 20:58:27 EST Why does (seemingly) everyone on this list seem to hate digital synthesizers so much that it's almost as if digital is a dirty word or something? I think "The Mix" has a very nice, rich sound that benefits heavily from the use of digital synthesizers, and they should have digitally recorded both "The Mix" and "Electric Cafe," naah mean? Since we're on the subject, is the Alesis HR-16 drum machine (I own one) digital because the sounds are basically samples from real drums? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Digital synthesis Date: 06 Mar 1997 22:37:54 -0500 >Why does (seemingly) everyone on this list seem to hate digital >synthesizers so much that it's almost as if digital is a dirty word or >something? I think "The Mix" has a very nice, rich sound that benefits >heavily from the use of digital synthesizers, and they should have >digitally recorded both "The Mix" and "Electric Cafe," naah mean? I think that when dealing with fans of Kraftwerk on a large scale, you can expect to find a good number of what we can call "traditionalists" who tend not to be so fond of digital synthesis. These are people who generally see Kraftwerk's essence rooted in their analogue eperimentation and revolutionary contributions to the world of electronic music. These contributions were made largely via analogue technologies. Many Kraftwerk fans (I don't claim to speak on anyone's behalf in particular, of course) prefer the analogue sounds as they tend to be "warmer" or "fuzzier" as it were. Digital synthesis has been widely regarded as producing sounds which are "cold", "mechanic", and "unfeeling". I personally felt that the use of digital synthesis on 'Electric Cafe' and 'The Mix' (the DX-7 for example) was appropriate. Kraftwerk's always been about technology and its progression forward whilst all the while upholding and celebrating those technologies of the past. They've dealt with futuristic and metropolistic (hehe) notions of robots, spacelabs, and computer worlds while simultaneously singing the praises of past discoveries like cross-country locomotives, radio receptors, pocket calculators, and neon lighting. The transition from analogue to ditigal was a logical step in Kraftwerk's musical evolution, but it is important to remember that in accepting digital synthesis they had not totally abandoned analogue either. Perhaps a song like "Home Computer" best sums up this ideology and past and present meet future - to use current available technologies in order to advance ourselves headfirst into our own futures, all the while developing. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "I program my home computer.." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Two short press clippings Date: 07 Mar 1997 15:31:31 +0100 (NFT) After Kraftwerk have ordered the latest equipment at the recent music fair in Frankfurt, they are finishing the production of their new album at the moment (according to TenDance 3/1997), while EMI continues to claim that there is no new Kraftwerk album on their release schedule (according to Beam Me Up 3/1997). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) German TourdeFr. Date: 07 Mar 1997 16:26:56 +0100 Hi ! ! !=20 =20 Does anyone have the German lyrics for Tour de France ?=20 =20 / Mats =20 =20 P.S. I've got a KW influenced homepage at:=20 http://www.student.gu.se/~maka0067=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Barrett Subject: Re: (kw) Digital synthesis Date: 07 Mar 1997 07:48:22 -0800 At 08:58 PM 3/6/97 EST, Adam Schefflan wrote: >Since we're on the subject, is the Alesis HR-16 drum machine (I own one) >digital because the sounds are basically samples from real drums? Peace. Yes, it is digital...in that aspect. However, it still outputs an analog audio signal, so you can't call it completely digital. It would have to have a digital output connector (similar to those on some CD players) for it to qualify as a fully digital instrument (IMHO). OOTKWR, I posted a message a while ago asking about KW videos, but didn't get any response. I'm mostly interested in Musique Non Stop, which I caught a glimpse of on a music video show a number of years ago, but then again I'll take anything in the KW vein. Anybody know where such videos can be found? -----------------Justin Barrett----------------- Owner: Dreamscape Productions Production Assistant: Northland Cable Television # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon.O'Conmhaigh@fp.eureko.ie Subject: (kw) autobahn Date: 07 Mar 1997 15:51 +0000 (GMT) As "mein Deutsch" is next to non-existent could somebody forward me the wording to Autobahn (off _The Mix_) if they get the chance.(It's no fun singing along if you don't know the words!) Apologies if this is on the Internet somewhere but I don't have access to it. Cheers if you can help, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Station 17 on RTL Date: 07 Mar 1997 18:09:34 +0100 (NFT) The German TV channel RTL shows a documentary on Station 17 next Sunday, around midnight (I don't have the exact time at hand, sorry). There's the possibility of some Michael Rother coverage, as Rother contributed a song to this project a few years ago. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Two short press clippings Date: 07 Mar 1997 19:54:58 +0100 At 15.31 07/03/97 +0100, you wrote: > >After Kraftwerk have ordered the latest equipment at the recent music >fair in Frankfurt, they are finishing the production of their wow! details on items they purchased? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 10:39:31 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Yamo WWW pages An English translation was added to the EMI Electrola pages on Yamo recently. The URL for the English version is http://www.netville.de/emi/r/r025/yamo2e.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:07:37 +0100 From: "Erik Barth" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Page Unavailable (only today or ...?) Hello folks, When checking the http://www.kraftwerk.com/ page I got the following message: >>>quote<<< Page Unavailable The page your are trying to access is unavailable, because it has been accessed too many times today, or the account serving the page has expired. You might want to try again tomorrow. >>>unquote<<< Is Kraftwerk this popular or have they been delaying things to much? We'll see... Erik Barth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1978 17:52:53 From: cgross@erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk home page Re: the disappearing home page I just caught it the night before it went offline (haven't checked since): If anyone missed it, it was a crude animation of a radiotower (white on black) similar to the one on the inner sleeve of 'Radio-Activity' and the words 'KRAFTWERK' and '(c) Klingklang'. Not much to look at... hope it comes back, though... cgross@erols.com Chris Gross # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:56:21 -0500 From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Newsgroup Open !!!! Hello Werkers, Just checked my news-server, and it is listing a new usenet group - alt.music.kraftwerk !!! No messages as yet, but its about time !!! Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:34:08 -0500 (EST) From: Spotnik@aol.com Subject: (kw) Brief KW Clip If you blinked you would have missed it, but, over the weekend, MTV broadcast a documentary about the music of the 1980's (can't remember the name of it, but it was a half-hour, broadcast in conjunction with another half-hour about the '80s "hair bands" and their current whereabouts) A few minutes into the show, they showed a maybe one second black and white shot of Karl and Wolfgang drumming! looked like it was from a video...? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:24:13 MET From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) again no acces again there's no access to the official kraftwerk-page. seems like they bother more for the music instead for maintaining their web-page at the moment ;-) i hope it will be a good sign ! Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:52:46 +0100 From: novitax@mail.datanet.hu Subject: [none] REVIEW KRAFTWERK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:21:01 +0100 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: Re: (kw) again no acces Or it means that "the official KW web site" isn't official, and that KW=20 has stopped it.=20 =20 Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:59:17 +0100 From: Rikard Bartholf Subject: (kw) hi.. I am 22 years old and live in Stockholm, Sweden. Since I was 10 years old I've apprechiated KraftWerk and their producings. I'm sure I'll enjoy this MailingList and wish you all the best. 'was ist los?' // Rikard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:35:42 +0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) hi.. Rikard Bartholf wrote: > > I am 22 years old and live in Stockholm, Sweden. > Since I was 10 years old I've apprechiated KraftWerk and their producings. > I'm sure I'll enjoy this MailingList and wish you all the best. welcome aboard! Jon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nexus Subject: (kw) The Bill Date: 12 Mar 1997 15:31:43 +0100 Did Ralf & Florian forget to pay the bill for www.kraftwerk.com ...? Hmm, seems like they moved... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjp@cblue.demon.co.uk Subject: (kw) Looking for Kraftwerk's studio address Date: 12 Mar 1997 22:23:23 GMT Hi I'm visiting Dusseldorf in two weeks time and as a long term Kraftwerk fan would like to know the exact address of the Klingklang studio. I've looked at the main Kraftwerk FAQ web page but cannot get through to the site that apparently has this address (I've tried several times ). If anyone knows this address I'd appreciate it if they could email me directly here: kjp@cblue.demon.co.uk Thanks in advance. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Update, etc. Date: 13 Mar 1997 02:27:17 EST Did anyone download "ReBirth" yet? What did you think???? Anyway, any US peeps check for a label for KW's new album???? Elektra? Capitol/EMI? Cleopatra/Caroline/Virgin? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: Re: (kw) Looking for Kraftwerk's studio address Date: 13 Mar 1997 10:00:06 +0100 The address to the Kling Klang Studio, including pictures can be viewed=20 at:=20 =20 http://www.cs-ka.de/thomas.weckert/kraftwerk/kk.html=20 =20 / Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Weckert Subject: Re: (kw) Looking for Kraftwerk's studio address Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:19:01 +0100 (MET) On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Mats Kadmark wrote: > The address to the Kling Klang Studio, including pictures can be viewed > at: > > http://www.cs-ka.de/thomas.weckert/kraftwerk/kk.html > > / Mats > Correctly, it is in Mintropstrasse 16, I don't know the adress of Elektric anymore, but it is Prinz-Regent-Strasse/Stockkampstrasse (the pictures below)... Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: (kw) Update, etc. Date: 13 Mar 1997 03:52:31 EST >Did anyone download "ReBirth" yet? What did you think???? Rebirth is totally cool. Its sound quality is great. I have big speakers and run it on my powerbook 5300 connected to my hifi set. I had the original TR 808 machine and if you're into programming that one, it's fine working with the software. Propellerheads announced a new demo version, containing new demo songs. You should subscribe to their mailing list to get the news. Expect the new demo to be out at the beginning of the next week. Propellerheards are thinking about doing the same with the famous 909 drum machine, think about that! I'm looking forward to the final version, available in the shops. Should be out soon, it was shown, as far as I know, on the Frankfurt Music fair. A friend of mine was there and fiddled around with it. If anyone got curios about that Rebirth thing.: It's a software the emulates the famous TR 808 drum machine and two (!!) of the 303 bass machines from roland. It has a delay effect and distortion and contains a simple mixer. The retail version will be able to be synced via midi (!!) and allows the sequences recorded to be saved, also in AIFF format. You can get it for Mac and PC. Runs on PC too, but look at the resources needed! It's available as a demo on "www.propellerheads.se" regards Oliver contact me privatly if you want to get rid of that 30min demo limitation.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) kraftwerk.com Date: 15 Mar 1997 16:21:12 +0100 Hi !=20 =20 www.kraftwerk.com =20 is werking again!=20 =20 / Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on austrian TV Date: 15 Mar 1997 10:32:26 EST HY, has anybody seen, or may be taped (?!) the Kraftwerk special on the austrian tv, friday night?! I just saw the last 3 minutes. they've shown taschenrechner (pocket calculator). Damned, I missed the whole thing, except the final song. Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Schneider Subject: (kw) KW-Article Date: 17 Mar 1997 13:04:24 GMT Hi, this is just a note to let everyone know that there is an article in the April issue of MOJO- the music magazine re KW. I don't know if it's available outside the UK; so if anyone wants the article, let me know and I'll transcribe it and send it on an ASCII file. Regards, Jeff: <>> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jose Castaneda Date: 17 Mar 1997 20:53:16 -0500 (EST) Hiiiii? Is the list still alive?, is there anybody outhere? Jose. _______________________________________________________ Jose Castaneda Grados E-mail: josecg@amauta.rcp.net.pe >From Lima-Peru! :). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) "Star Wars" and KW Date: 18 Mar 1997 01:41:13 EST Has anyone seen the special edition of "Star Wars" lately? Is it me, or does the band in the cantina (they have round white heads, and they play instruments resembling clarinets) resemble the World's Greatest Band? Is it an homage or a complete coincidence? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Bruns" Subject: Re: (kw) "Star Wars" and KW Date: 18 Mar 1997 10:11:46 +0000 On 18 Mar 97, Adam Schefflan wrote: > Has anyone seen the special edition of "Star Wars" lately? Is it me, or > does the band in the cantina (they have round white heads, and they play > instruments resembling clarinets) resemble the World's Greatest Band? Is > it an homage or a complete coincidence? Peace. Ralph & Florian are bug-eyed monsters? I suspect the coincidence thing. If the black wasn't a specific choice on their part, it could very well have been simply a cheap choice, cause they didn't really have that much money at the time (hence the special-edition-absent wolfman, replaced by some new junk). Plus, black clothing and musicians isn't really that unique a combination. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edu Subject: Re: (kw) "Star Wars" and KW Date: 18 Mar 1997 13:50:03 -0300 Adam Schefflan wrote: > Has anyone seen the special edition of "Star Wars" lately? Is it me, or > does the band in the cantina (they have round white heads, and they play > instruments resembling clarinets) resemble the World's Greatest Band? I'll see SW this saturday, and will PAY ATTENTION to the band/reference. As far as I know, this scene is from the original cut. Do you know when ? ManMachine Hugs !! Edu Pires # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Bruns" Subject: Re: (kw) "Star Wars" and KW Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:49:11 +0000 4On 18 Mar 97, Edu wrote: > I'll see SW this saturday, and will PAY ATTENTION to the band/reference. > As far as I know, this scene is from the original cut. Do you know when > ? Luke goes to Mos Eisley...this is maybe three hours into the movie, but maybe it just seems that way to me now that I've seen that bastard a few million times... But, by far the coolest actual Kraftwerk nod is in Beck's The New Pollution video, which actually adds a black member to Kraftwerk... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk album Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:26:03 +0100 (NFT) EMI Electrola has announced a new Kraftwerk album for June [http://www.netville.de/emi/n/spin/spin.html). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F.J.Meijer@stud.frw.ruu.nl" Date: 19 Mar 1997 11:43:21 +0100 Hai there! First of all I would thank Klaes Zaepke. I think he often has very useful and interesting news about Kraftwerk. Go on with that! I wonder how he obtains all this information: one cannot Internet all day, can you? Indeed Kraftwerk is mentioned on the EMI list of scheduled album releases. There was no title yet, so let us not hope that this means that one of their older albums will be released (Tonefloat for example; however it would be fun if this would be released on CD too. This has never happended, has it?). I haven't heard much news about the Tribal Gathering festival. Is it still confirmed by the organizers of the festival? I wonder if this is just a trick of the Tribal Gatherers to attract/get attention of a lot of people? Last year the same rumour went around. By the way, is there any Internetsite dedicated to this festival? Frank PS Dolf, ik ben je adres kwijtgeraakt omdat al mijn emeels op een gegeven moment ware verdwenen. Dat was vlak nadat je mij je meel had gestuurd. Ik ben daarna een tijdje niet op de Uithof geweest (daar waar mijn emeelcomputer staat). Wil je nog een keer je adres opsturen? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) Re: Klaus! Date: 19 Mar 1997 12:28:11 +0100 > First of all I would thank Klaes Zaepke. I think he often has very useful > and interesting news about Kraftwerk. Go on with that! I wonder how he > obtains all this information: one cannot Internet all day, can you? Indeed Well, as we're on it, I'd like to say that I agree. Nice going, Klaus! > Kraftwerk is mentioned on the EMI list of scheduled album releases. There > was no title yet, so let us not hope that this means that one of their older > albums will be released (Tonefloat for example; however it would be fun if > this would be released on CD too. This has never happended, has it?). Er, in a way, it has. It has appeared in various small music catalogues in Sweden, and I also saw it in a record store once. Although I think it's a pirate version - like the "Kraftwerk 2" CD I recently purchased - it was recorded off vinyl! > PS Dolf, ik ben je adres kwijtgeraakt omdat al mijn emeels op een gegeven > moment ware verdwenen. Dat was vlak nadat je mij je meel had gestuurd. Ik > ben daarna een tijdje niet op de Uithof geweest (daar waar mijn > emeelcomputer staat). Wil je nog een keer je adres opsturen? Eh - och vad vill det där betyda? /Marcus. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: (kw) Re: (inget =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E4mne)?= Date: 19 Mar 1997 14:13:23 +0100 On 19-Mar-97 A.D., F.J.Meijer@stud.frw.ruu.nl carved the following runes about "(inget =E4mne)": [Tribal Gathering...] >Last year the same rumour went around. By the way, is there any >Internetsite >dedicated to this festival? http://www.universe.co.uk/home.htm >PS Dolf, ik ben je adres kwijtgeraakt omdat al mijn emeels op een gegeve= n >moment ware verdwenen. Dat was vlak nadat je mij je meel had gestuurd. I= k >ben daarna een tijdje niet op de Uithof geweest (daar waar mijn >emeelcomputer staat). Wil je nog een keer je adres opsturen? = "Emeel"... Sp. or just Dutch? ;) Gerade aus! -- = ______________________________________________= _ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are= | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Far= m| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside= "| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" = | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tsch= ak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Re: Message from Internet Date: 19 Mar 1997 08:18:03 EST >(Tonefloat for example; however it would be fun if >this would be released on CD too. This has never happended, has it?). Hy Frank, I bought my ToneFloat in a regular CD Shop. It was WOM (World of Music), which is quit big in Germany, many big towns like Munich, Duesseldorf, berlin (?) have a shop. I'm not shure, wheather it's an official release (probably not), you hear the crispy noise of an old record, when the cd begins. i expect it to be a bootleg, WOM sometimes sells this stuff!! Sorry there is no order nummber on it, so I can't tell you regards Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Model Retrospectives Date: 19 Mar 1997 14:42:51 -0500 Fellow Kraftwerkians, As you all recall, Cleopatra released two editions of a 1975-1978 Kraftwerk retrospective back in '92, called 'The Model' (CLEO 57612). One of these editions featured an illustration of a mannequin suspended in the air by strings alongside a brick wall surrounded by a smoky red and green glow, and contained a blue design on the disc itself. The other edition featured photos of the four band members themselves at their consoles (stills taken from the video for "The Model" incidentally) plus the words "The Best Of Kraftwerk" printed vertically on the cover, and contained a red design on the disc itself. Both of these editions contain the same 11 track songlist. My question is, which of these two editions is the one commonly referred to by on-line music stores as the 'limited edition' one? I own both of them but was just curious. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "We start to move...and we break the glass" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Model Retrospectives Date: 20 Mar 1997 02:04:24 +0100 On 19-Mar-97 A.D., Scott M. Barnhill carved the following runes about "(kw) Model Retrospectives": > As you all recall, Cleopatra released two editions of a 1975-1978 >Kraftwerk retrospective back in '92, called 'The Model' (CLEO 57612). One >of >these editions featured an illustration of a mannequin suspended in the air >by >strings alongside a brick wall surrounded by a smoky red and green glow, >and >contained a blue design on the disc itself. > The other edition featured photos of the four band members >themselves at >their consoles (stills taken from the video for "The Model" incidentally) >plus >the words "The Best Of Kraftwerk" printed vertically on the cover, and >contained >a red design on the disc itself. Both of these editions contain the same >11 >track songlist. My question is, which of these two editions is the one >commonly >referred to by on-line music stores as the 'limited edition' one? I own >both of them but was just curious. Hmmm. FWIW, my copy of this CD (CLEO 57612 which I believe is the ltd edition one - it has a sticker saying "Limited - 1500") also came in a black/purple textile bag along with the photos and the badge. Anyway, the CD itself has *blue* printing on it and the cover just says "Kraftwerk - The Model". Also, the photo just shows KW standing in the stairs from the Die Mensch Maschine album cover. Gerade aus! -- _______________________________________________ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Farm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside"| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tschak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) What a Disappointment! Date: 20 Mar 1997 09:08:12 -0000 Hi there one and all, Call me Mr. Slow, but it was only yesterday that I managed to hear a = copy of 'The Model' compilation CD on Cleopatra. Who on earth put = together this CD, it couldn't have been a Kraftwerk enthusiast that's = for sure! Why, oh why, do record companies continue to put together compilations = on CD such as 'The Model', editing tracks like Neon Lights to three = minutes and yet not use all the recording space available on the CD = itself........madness!!!! Personally I will not buy this CD, I have all the tracks on vinyl anyway = and I am not into collecting every release on every label, I will leave = that to you extremists out there who obviously have more money than = sense. Looking forward to the Kraftwerk gig at Tribal, and to the album release = in June from EMI Electrola. Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: Re: (kw) What a Disappointment! Date: 20 Mar 1997 15:43:56 +0100 Craig. > Call me Mr. Slow, but it was only yesterday that I managed to hear a copy of 'The Model' compilation CD on > Cleopatra. Who on earth put together this CD, it couldn't have been a Kraftwerk enthusiast that's for sure! As far as I know it is a "singles collection" from 75-78, although may I be wrong? > Why, oh why, do record companies continue to put together compilations on CD such as 'The Model', editing > tracks like Neon Lights to three minutes and yet not use all the recording space available on the CD > itself........madness!!!! Once again - as far as I know it is the single versions edited by Kraftwerk themselves (or whoever producing them). > Personally I will not buy this CD, I have all the tracks on vinyl anyway and I am not into collecting every > release on every label, I will leave that to you extremists out there who obviously have more money than > sense. Thanks, I bought it. /Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: RE: (kw) Model Retrospectives Date: 20 Mar 1997 09:56:21 -0500 >As an avid record collector the only limited edition version I know of is the >one with the photograph of the band but with something else added, a Kraftwerk >badge, I think it was a cloth one, I can't quite remember. But it was the >badge that made this collection a limited edition. Ah yes, once people started mentioning the version with the black/purple bag and the badges it all came back to me. >Call me Mr. Slow, but it was only yesterday that I managed to hear a copy of >'The Model' compilation CD on Cleopatra. Who on earth put together this CD, it >couldn't have been a Kraftwerk enthusiast that's for sure! That must have been the label's doing alright. The songs are all somewhat butchered on that compilation, but perhaps the only compilation I've heard that actually did a bit of a hack job on the songs is the Capitol special markets cassette-only release called 'Robots' back in 1986. Historically speaking though, I suppose it's significant to remember that sometimes an edit is necessary to insure success. Remember, the version of "Autobahn" that became a hit on the American charts was an edited version that ran around 4 minutes or so, broken down from its massive and epic 22 minute original form! :-) >Personally I will not buy this CD, I have all the tracks on vinyl anyway and I >am not into collecting every release on every label, I will leave that to you >extremists out there who obviously have more money than sense. hehe...well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that extremist collectors have little sense. For many people, collecting of this variety can be a most fulfilling and rewarding hobby, and the aesthetic benefits that one gets from engaging in such activities has little to do with any lack of sense on his part. It certainly does help to have the money though. ;-) >Looking forward to the Kraftwerk gig at Tribal, and to the album release in >June from EMI Electrola. As we all are! The excitement builds... Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering - 10 Years??? Date: 20 Mar 1997 06:18:32 -0500 Hi Kraftwerkaholics, Anyone noticed the inaccuracy on the Tribal Gathering web page?? It states that this is the first time in ten years that kw have appeared live !!! tsk tsk, they should employ better researchers !!! BTW, I also note that this is the third time they have been announced at this festival. (NME also had a small report two years ago that came to nothing) Is anybody going to organise a meeting at the festival??? (So we can match names to faces !!) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Model Retrospectives Date: 20 Mar 1997 00:42:08 +0100 At 14:42 19-03-97 -0500, you wrote: >Fellow Kraftwerkians, > > As you all recall, Cleopatra released two editions of a 1975-1978 >Kraftwerk retrospective back in '92, called 'The Model' (CLEO 57612). One of >these editions featured an illustration of a mannequin suspended in the air by >strings alongside a brick wall surrounded by a smoky red and green glow, and >contained a blue design on the disc itself. > The other edition featured photos of the four band members themselves at >their consoles (stills taken from the video for "The Model" incidentally) plus >the words "The Best Of Kraftwerk" printed vertically on the cover, and contained >a red design on the disc itself. Both of these editions contain the same 11 >track songlist. My question is, which of these two editions is the one commonly >referred to by on-line music stores as the 'limited edition' one? I own >both of them but was just curious. > OKay, to make things more complicated: I have a copy with the blue design (with the model on the cover), but it is a limited edition. It has the photo you were talkin' about, as well as a button with the four lads (not the Liverpool ones) in silhouette. All of it is put in a cotton 'pouch' (it hardly deserves that name) and has a small sticker on it sayin': "Limited 1500". Hope thatz enough for ya! Later, Johan. -- God is a subwoofer, and he listen to drum & bass. Turn up thy religion! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) tribal Date: 20 Mar 1997 22:06:47 +0100 Hi!=20 =20 Everyone on the list going to Tribal Gathering could meet in a local=20 Luton pub wearing a red rose or something... : )=20 =20 / Mats =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering - 10 Years??? Date: 20 Mar 1997 22:36:18 +0100 At 06:18 20-03-97 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Kraftwerkaholics, > >(NME also had a small report two years ago that came to nothing) > >Is anybody going to organise a meeting at the festival??? >(So we can match names to faces !!) > I second that! :) Johan. -- God is a subwoofer, and he listen to drum & bass. Turn up thy religion! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Virvea" Subject: (kw) hello Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:56:21 PST I just subscribed to the list and wanted to say hello to you all, men mac= hines drinking electric caffes!! Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Henschel Subject: Re: (kw) hello Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:15:06 PST [NOTICE: This message was delayed on its way to the list because it contained excess quoted text, which has been automatically removed. To prevent this from happening to your messages, be sure to include as little text as possible from the message you are responding to.] Paul, I just signed up, too! Hello Paul - and everyone else. Nice to see others= who love very Kool music. Jonathan Henschel jhensch1@genesys.net Check out my updated web page at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/3899 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Puli@Planet.losandes.com.ar Subject: (kw) for the extremists..... Date: 21 Mar 1997 01:24:32 -0400 KR>Personally I will not buy this CD, I have all the tracks on vinyl anyway = KR>and I am not into collecting every release on every label, I will leave = KR>that to you extremists out there who obviously have more money than = KR>sense. HI! Writing fron Argentina! Talking about mad collectors.....is there anybody out there interested in trading Argentinian vinyl editions of "Trans Europa Express" and "Electric Cafe"? Mail Privately, please! Saludos. Sergio Pulido Mail to: puli@planet.losandes.com.ar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Daft Punk & Kraftwerk Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:07:54 +0000 Spex 4/1997 reports that it is rumoured that only one person besides EMI employees and Kraftwerk themselves has a tape of the forthcoming Kraftwerk album so far: Thomas Bangalter from Daft Punk, who was apparently booked for remixing some of the tracks. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Deutsche Krieger Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:07:53 +0000 Not a brandnew release, but I believe that it wasn't mentioned here before: Kraftwerk's "Metal On Metal" ("The Mix"-Version) is used as background music for excerpts from the famous German front radio broadcast from Christmas 1941 (incl. some additional snippets from Hitler speeches) on the CD "Deutsche Krieger" by Ammer Einheit (i. e. Andreas Ammer and F. M. Einheit). Catalogue number: RTD 195.3110.2. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) The Gathering! Date: 21 Mar 1997 14:21:04 -0000 Hello all Tribal Participants, This could be it, the one time, maybe the very last time that we can all = see Kraftwerk and organize a 'Gathering' of our own! A suggestion was made to arrange a meet in one of the Luton pubs, but I = think this will not be a very good idea as Luton Hoo is not walking = distance from Luton Town Centre, so keeping everyone together as well as = trying to get to Tribal at the same time with people using different = types of transport will be an absolute headache. Probably the best idea is to create a design that can be put onto a = badge or T-Shirt. A T-Shirt would be better as it will be clearly = visible and all we would have to do is agree an image, get it scanned at = a screen printers so that they can then print it onto a T-Shirt. As it happens I have a friend who designs his own clothing for extreme = sports, bungy jumping etc., he tells me that the initial design costs = =A325 per screen and =A34 for the T-Shirt. So if we wanted a T-Shirt = with a print on the front and rear, and we purchased 10 shirts, the cost = including VAT would be =A3105. That's a fraction over =A310 per shirt, = not bad!!! There is a cheaper way, and that is to but the shirts at =A34 each and = copy our image to Kodak photo CD, and through a special piece of = software print the image onto a special kind of paper which you use to = iron the transfer onto the T-Shirt. This will save the cost of the = initial screen's at =A325 each. Please let me know who is interested so I can work out how many T-Shirts = we would require. And don't forget, suggestions of design. Best Regards, Craig. cland@acl.memec.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: Re: (kw) hello Date: 21 Mar 1997 11:21:53 EST On Fri, 21 Mar 97 02:56:21 PST "Paul Virvea" writes: >I just subscribed to the list and wanted to say hello to you all, men >mac= >hines drinking electric caffes!! >Paul ..make mine a double by the way. Welcome to the list Paul! Jeff -endless.. endless.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: (kw) Meeting point Date: 21 Mar 1997 18:33:32 +0100 >Is anybody going to organise a meeting at the festival??? >(So we can match names to faces !!) I would be willing to do that, however I haven't to the place yet. So: Isn't there someone out there in the UK who can survey the area to look for an appropiate meeting point? Besides: is anyone not wearing a KW t-shirt (my fluorescent yellow shirt from the 1991 is already clean and ready to wear) Dolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jtalbert@ford.com (John Talbert) Subject: (kw) List member identification at the Tribal Gathering Date: 21 Mar 1997 13:11:50 -0500 >Hello all Tribal Participants, > >This could be it, the one time, maybe the very last time that we can all = >see Kraftwerk and organize a 'Gathering' of our own! I'm hoping that the next concert will be the long overdue world-wide simultaneous concert with the ROBOTS controlled from Klingklang studios via satellite !!! >Probably the best idea is to create a design that can be put onto a = >badge or T-Shirt. A T-Shirt would be better as it will be clearly = >visible and all we would have to do is agree an image, get it scanned at = >a screen printers so that they can then print it onto a T-Shirt. >[snip] I was thinking of something like a simple white (or other agreed upon color) t-shirt that simply says: "kraftwerk@xmission.com" on both the front and back. Since its a relatively simple design, we all can probably afford to have one made easily (unless of course you're flying to Luton from the US and will be spending *all* of your money on plane fare and lodging like me! ;) How do these ideas sound? -John (MNS) Talbert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sender Subject: (kw) T-shirt ID at TG Date: 21 Mar 1997 16:26:37 -0300 John Talbert wrote: > I was thinking of something like a simple white (or other agreed upon color) > t-shirt that simply says: > "kraftwerk@xmission.com" > on both the front and back. Since its a relatively simple design, we all Easy, simple , intelligent and efficient.. very Kraftwerkian :)))! Boing 4 U All ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) TG-Tshirt Date: 22 Mar 1997 10:36:32 +0100 Hi!=20 =20 I think "kraftwerk@xmission.com" on a T-shirt, is probably the best=20 solution as noone has to make and ship T-shirts all over the world if=20 we had them done in one single "factory".=20 =20 Before I read this solution, I made some T-shirt prototypes in=20 Photoshop and if anyone would want copies of them I can send them=20 privately...=20 =20 / Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) T-shirt ideas Date: 22 Mar 1997 16:55:23 EST Although I won't be at the Tribal Gathering, I'd like to throw in my two cents, naah mean? I think that the T-shirt should be black with the web page design in front (in green--the same as the actual page) and have the 4 "Electric Cafe" faces in the back. Obviously, the words "Kraftwerk" and (c)Kling Klang(R) would be in the front, so no words need to appear on the back. How does this sound???? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) T-shirt ideas Date: 22 Mar 1997 23:55:12 +0100 1. Buy a white $5 T-shirt! 2. Write/spray/paint "kraftwerk@xmission.com" on it! 3. Enjoy the show and use your money to buy official KW-shirts! (Or wait for a "real" KW-concert!) (4. Or, like me, avoid any contact with the geeks, like me, from this list - be anonymous! ;-) This T-shirt thread is getting bizarre IMHO... -- _______________________________________________ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Farm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside"| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tschak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Radio Kaos Date: 23 Mar 1997 01:28:38 +0000 > the web page design in front (in green--the same as the actual page) Speaking about the web page design: Has anyone noticed that it is *extremely* similar to the sleeve of the "Radio Kaos" album by Roger Waters? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Nilsson Subject: Re: (kw) Radio Kaos Date: 23 Mar 1997 10:13:16 +0100 >> the web page design in front (in green--the same as the actual page) >Speaking about the web page design: Has anyone noticed that it is >*extremely* similar to the sleeve of the "Radio Kaos" album by Roger >Waters? Another thing about the web-page is that the "F" in "Kraftwerk" isn't reproduced exactly as on "The Mix" album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) List member identification at the Tribal Gathering Date: 23 Mar 1997 17:03:42 +0100 >I was thinking of something like a simple white (or other agreed upon color) >t-shirt that simply says: > > "kraftwerk@xmission.com" sadly, I don't think I could be there, for budget reasons. anyway this thing of a t-shirt is something other list or newsgroup take seriously, and I think we should really make one for ourselves. usually a "competition" about the design is issued, so everybody send their ideas and can eventually vote. the most nice arrangement I saw was about the rmi t-shirt (rec.music.industrial newsgroup). A guy with some space on his server volunteered to put all the design online and arranged an interactive form that could be used by visitors of his site to vote and comment the proposed designs. things were made easy because it was a newsgroup, so you could have made huge postings with attached graphic files of your "capolavori". to tell the truth, I don't know how the story finished, but it was very nice to partecipate. >to Luton from the US and will be spending *all* of your money on plane fare >and lodging >like me! ;) if I can make a sugestion on this, fares to lodge are more convenient if a numerous group book together. I think that people sure to go there take arrangements between themselves to book places to sleep all in once. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) T-shirt ideas Date: 23 Mar 1997 17:03:54 +0100 >cents, naah mean? I think that the T-shirt should be black with the web >page design in front (in green--the same as the actual page) and have the yes, but how do you do the radiating circles from the antenna? :-))) no, actually this mex is because I don't know if kraftwerk@xmission.con is the best idea. maybe I'm ignorant about this, but while anithing containing @ and .com sound very internet and contestualize the origin of the shirt, after all xmission is just an host, I mean, it can host other lists, services, the list could move to another host... of course I don't want to be rude with xmission, whoever it is, and if xmission is glad to have his name on the shirt then all right, I am just thinking that something like "Kraftwerk mailing list" would sound more appropriate. then again, maybe I am just ignorant on how this list is maintained. >4 "Electric Cafe" faces in the back. Obviously, the words "Kraftwerk" and >(c)Kling Klang(R) would be in the front, so no words need to appear on >the back. How does this sound???? Peace. this is another hairy issue. ok, we take a (c) (r), and whatsoever design and print it more and more times without asking anything to anyone. ok, we are after all a small bunch of fans, so maybe nobody will get too angry with us, but should we print (c) and (r)? it's like telling "I know I could not had print it but I print it the same"... then again, just suggestions. I would have no moral problem in obtaining and wearing such a shirt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) yellow fluorescent t-shirt Date: 23 Mar 1997 17:03:30 +0100 >Besides: is anyone not wearing a KW t-shirt (my fluorescent yellow shirt >from the 1991 is already clean and ready to wear) a yellow fluorescent t-shirt? I did not knew about this. If someone has one more, I would be interested to buy one or to swap with some item. mind that I'm not an hard core collectionist, so I would not pay a lot and I have not so rare items. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) kraftwerk bbs weissenbrun Date: 23 Mar 1997 19:28:49 +0100 hello, I found this address that obviously has nothing to do with the band, it seem a right wind net. http://www.thulenet.com/boxen/kraftwer/kw_haupt.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering direction info Date: 23 Mar 1997 14:14:22 EST For the benefit of anyone considering attending the Tribal Gathering event, here is some of the info regaring getting to the event that accompanied the ticket I recently received; Directions to Luton Hoo; By CAR; From M1 - Junction 10 to Luton, at first roundabout take the A1081; follow signs for Tribal Gathering 97. DO NOT follow signs for Luton Hoo as the gate entry these signs take you to will be closed. There is no predestrian access to the event. Police will remove any cars parked illegally outside the estate. By TRAIN; Go to Harpenden Train Station, NOT LUTON. A shuttle Bus Service will operate between Harpenden Train Station and Luton Hoo and will operate return services on the Sunday morning. By COACH; National Express are operating direct and fast entry coach services from various parts of the country - call 0990 80 80 80 for details. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Covers/interpretations, etc. Date: 23 Mar 1997 20:47:08 EST Does anyone know if anyone has actually used the Kling Klang studio besides our favorite band? Has KW ever produced tracks for anyone else besides themselves? A few weeks ago someone asked who KW should cover or remix. Well, I think it would be ground-breaking if they remixed the classic recordings of Om Katoulm, the original Arab music diva. Think of the possibilities! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Werner.Knappe@t-online.de (Werner Knappe) Subject: (kw) Tribal at Luton Date: 23 Mar 1997 22:21 +0100 hi, last week i've spent a couple of days at london for shopping (KW-records for shure - hey Craig Land: I know I'm a mad extremist - but I'm mad and wealthy, so I don't care. I bought the retrospective-copy a few yeas ago at miami;-)) Several ticket-shops already sell tickets for the tribal gathering for 35 pounds but no one was able to tell me which artists exactly will be there. no posters, no additional info. ciao werner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) Apologies Date: 24 Mar 1997 09:40:33 -0000 Hi there all Members, Right then let me first apologize for the comments I made in a previous = message about the fanatical record collectors having more money than = sense! As I have explained to a couple of other Members, this is classic = British humour, my comments were not meant to be taken seriously, just a = little bit of sarcasm! Please can all the 'fanatics' out there who seem to live and breathe = Kraftwerk only stop giving me more aggravating e:mails on this issue. = For goodness sake don't get so stressed up over such a little remark!! Right subject closed and finished. But hey, if you really want to be stirred up, check this out. In 1991 a group of us Kraftwerk fans in England went to Brixton Accademy = to see the Fab Four. It was a great highlight for me as I had bought a = ticket for the 1981 Robots tour, but due to illness could not go. Ten = years of waiting, was it worth it? Yes I suppose it was, but the highlight for us was the conversation on = the way home on the Tube. We were relaying our feelings on the night, = saying what we thought was great on what was not, and some spotty little = chap who was probably old enough to but his first record at the Electric = Cafe era, started jumping up and down saying tat the Robots were = brilliant and that they were playing the music while Kraftwerk went off = stage. When we stopped laughing at him, we asked how they could be playing the = music ten feet in the air with the instruments being set onto auto play = anyway,....plenty of DAT/Hard Disk pre-recorded tunes played that night. = I know, I went with fellow DJ's, Sound Engineers and musicians. But we = expected it....that was the whole point. We do not get worked up, or = take this whole Kraftwerk thing too seriously, we give ultimate respect = to Kraftwerk, and not forgetting those who even influenced the Fab Four = like Stockhausen. Respect. Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Schneider Subject: (kw) KW + Tribal Gathering Date: 24 Mar 1997 13:51:54 GMT --Message-Boundary-20393 Content-description: Mail message body Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" --Message-Boundary-20393 Content-description: Information about this message. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This message contains a file prepared for transmission using the MIME BASE64 transfer encoding scheme. If you are using Pegasus Mail or another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to extract it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for help. ---- File information ----------- File: let2.txt Date: 24 Mar 1997, 13:27 Size: 962 bytes. 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Thank you very much! Rafa. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Date: 24 Mar 1997 09:36:07 -0500 Even after all this time has passed since the release of that Japanese edition of the 'Computer World' cd that had everyone talking for a while, it seems some places still have not gotten their facts straightened out. On-line cd company AB-CD has this printed in their catalog: ----- Kraftwerk Computer World + 1 Extra Track (Dentaku) (Jpn) JapanEMITOCP-8974 Japanese Version Of The Pop Electronic Pioneer's 1981 Studio Album That Adds The Japanese Version Of 'pocket Calculator' And Two Mixes Of 'tour De France' (original And Instrumental). 7/12/96 compact disc 37.97 ----- Something wrong with this picture? hehe... Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "Bokuwa ongakuka, dentaku katateni..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) T-Shirts the Final Episode Date: 24 Mar 1997 14:36:10 -0000 Hi there One and All, Don't worry fellow Kraftwerk fans, no sarcasm this time! Due to a unanimous decision the design for the Tribal Kraftwerk T-Shirts = is as follows: T-Shirt - Black Front - Green Radio Tower (Simulated radio waves)and the Kraftwerk Name Back - (Same font as above) kraftwerk@xmission.com Actually a final thought, do we want any mention that this is Tribal = Gathering T-Shirt? You know, a tour date, or location details etc.? I will keep these T-Shirts as a limited edition, initially I will = enquire about having 20 printed up for a costing purpose but please, = even if you have already sent me e:mails saying that you would like a = shirt, send me your full name and address. From this information I can = calculate (on my pocket calculator) what the postage charges will be. = All shirts will be mailed to the address you send me via the postal = service. All money's must be paid in full to myself before any = shipments are dispatched. Once I have had the printers make a copy of the design, I will get a = sample copied to disk so that I can then attach it to an e:mail for you = all to have a little look at. One last thing, the T-Shirts will be in one size only, probably the = one-size-fits-all, usually XL. Best Regards, Craig. PS. If this goes well, I may even start producing limited edition = T-Shirts with selected Kraftwerk pictures on, anyone interested? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wilhelm Subject: (kw) KW+tribal gathering radio Date: 24 Mar 1997 15:37:38 +0100 (MET) OK! If anyone gets a hold of some sort of recording from the tribal gathering concert, please contact me, and we'll put it into the infobahr. I have room for both a mp3-version and a real-audio version... /anders btw. I am currently taking orders for the upcoming Transformator Station release "Connect". -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * em: dvlawm@cs.umu.se * "I program my Home-computer, * * Umea University * url:http://wwwtdb.cs.* feel myself into the future" * * Sweden * umu.se/~dvlawm/ * -Florian Schneider, 1981 * *************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Back to Front ??? Date: 24 Mar 1997 09:06:11 -0500 Hi, A bit off subject, but has anyone else noticed that sometimes they get a reply to their list message before they get a copy of the original, or it is just that my mail server delivers out of order??? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Barthel" Subject: (kw) fs: Kraftwelt and Die Roboter Rubato Date: 24 Mar 1997 09:13:16 -0600 Hi, I have the following 2 cds I am selling. If anyone is interested, please email me: Kraftwelt "Electronic Dimension" Terre Thaemlitz "Die Roboter Rubato" (piano interpretations of Kraftwerk titles) ~~Jeff Barthel ******************************************************** * Email: * * WebPage: http://www.i1.net/~jbarthel * ************************ PLUR ************************ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering Timetable !! Date: 24 Mar 1997 04:31:52 -0500 Hi Chaps, Just to let you know that the official Tribal gathering site is now showing the appearance schedule for the whole event. The url is : http://www.universe.co.uk/times.htm Our favs are appearing at 22:00 GMT. See ya........ Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) An intro Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:19:16 Hello everyone, my name is Richard I'm 32 and have been into Kraftwerk for a long, long time. I joined the list to find out just what the boys are up to. Unfortunateley because I have no contacts at EMI or in Dusseldorf I'll never have any news to tell you lot! I was at the Lyceum in '81 and at Brixton in '91 and, of course, I'll be at the Tribal Gathering. Because there are so many unitiated out there it is hard to persuade friends that it really will be the MUST SEE event of 1997!! When airwaves swing etc..................... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: re: (kw) Apologies Date: 24 Mar 1997 07:58:01 -0500 Message text written by Craig Land >jumping up and down saying tat the Robots were = brilliant and that they were playing the music while Kraftwerk went off = stage.< I was also at the Brixton acedmy for BOTH nights, and the music played at the end of the gig was distinctly different for each perfomance, thus, it certainly was not DAT, but almost a jam session using sampled loops. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: (kw):Brixton Academy '91 (was:Apologies) Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:08:12 +0200 Craig Land wrote: > > In 1991 a group of us Kraftwerk fans in England went to Brixton Accademy to see the Fab Four. I was there too. I had to persuade my girlfriend to spend a week of our summer holiday in London. I was pretty sure it was my only chance to ever see them live. Guess what? In a few months they played two gigs in Helsinki, Finland - where I happen to live - with exactly the same show. Otso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) KW+tribal gathering radio Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:10:45 -0500 I think UK radio 1 will be broadcasting live from the event, so anyone who can pick it up will be able send the tape. They broadcast between 97-99 FM. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Conny_Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: (kw) Keyword=Luton Hoo Date: 25 Mar 1997 12:58:27 +0100 It seems like R&F really intend to perform at the Tribal Gathering this = year. The www.kraftwerk.com-page has added the key-word "Luton Hoo" in = the html-code. I'm almost convinced. I'll go there! /Conny Ps. I think the idea about a design-competition for the TG-T-shirts is = good. Does anyone on the list want to arrange such a page? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com has changed Date: 25 Mar 1997 18:21:55 +0100 hello, I was just notified by an automatic robot that the abovesaid page was changed. it should be something very subtle because the page look as usual to me... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) BOOTLEG T-Shirts?!! Date: 25 Mar 1997 12:50:12 -0800 !!!!*ARGH*!!!! I've been off line for 2 whole WEEKS! My monitor's TDA = 9102 chip took a dump on me, so, it's in Hayward being fixed. We finally = found a compatable Monitor to borrow for the duration. I have 155 Email = messages- mostly duplicate Mail List postings. -(Am I the only one = getting double postings?)- So, now I gotta catch up on everything.... = "Can we CHAT?".... T-Shirts? You want to BOOTLEG a bunch of KRAFTWERK T-Shirts for the = Tribal Gathering?*sigh*. Be careful- legalities and all. But, HA! They = can't bust ME- I drew up my OWN T-shirts! YEAH! Thank God I have more = talent than money- not to mention sense!*snicker*! I can't afford rare = records- let alone plane fare to London.*WAH-H-H-H*!! Go ahead, all you = LUCKY/RICH people, rub it in! But, I'VE got ONE of a kind KRAFTWERK = T-Shirts! I am an ArTISTE- and money can't buy talent! So = there!*TH-B-B-BPT!* Damn RIGHT I'm Jealous! *GRRR*! -(Please don't take = me TOO seriously. ;] ROBOWINKY)- However, I might be purr-suaded to = trade some original wearable ArtWERK for a plane ticket. -(In my = DREAMS!)- Anyway, I used a black fabric pen on a bright orange/yellow = T-shirt and a pale yellow shirt, -(my flourescent yellow T-shirt is = next!)- and I painstakingly dabbed the same design, using a paper clip = dipped in SILVER fabric paint, on a BLACK T-shirt. On the uppermost = part, I drew "KRAFTWERK" in BIG eleKtroniK style lettering with a = battery/power symbol underneath, and I drew Ralf & Florian's = heads/faces, approximately life-sized, just a basic line drawing, across = the "stomach" portion, with a top-view of a generic SYNTH behind them. = Not bad ArtWERK, if I do say so myself. As soon as this finicky Aptiva = 133 system starts behaving itself, I can scan a sketch of my design and = Email to anyone who's curious- or maybe my shutterbug hubby can take a = picture of me in one of my self-made shirts and scan the foto. Whatever. = -(I STILL can't find all of my K-philes. I'm having MAJOR Technical = Difficulties in Computerland.)- *SIGH* TAPES of KW's TG Performance? *WOW*! Yeah- I'll bite! 'Wanna swap for a = T-shirt? :] ROBOSMILEY Please keep in Touch! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(Look me up in the DOMINION Members Lounge)- Snail Mail: -(If all else fails....)- ROBOT aka: Melanie Jean Mayfield 805 "M" Street Eureka, CA 95501-1947 USA Sol III Milky Way # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Part of previous post was deleted Date: 25 Mar 1997 15:27:32 -0800 ???? Part of my description of my T-shirt design got deleted.... "KRAFTWERK" in large eleKtroniK lettering on the upper chest, with = approximately life-sized line drawings of Ralf & Florian's heads/faces = accross the stomach, and a generic SYNTH -(top view)- behind their = "portraits". Kinda nifty, eh? I'll try to scan a drawing or maybe a foto = of me wearing one of my shirts. Same design in black on yellow, gold, = and a silver on black. ROBOT@humboldt1.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hiroshi MURATA Subject: Re: (kw) Keyword=Luton Hoo Date: 26 Mar 1997 08:41:33 +0900 At 12:58 25/Mar/1997 +0100, wrote: > It seems like R&F really intend to perform at the Tribal Gathering > this year. The www.kraftwerk.com-page has added the key-word "Luton > Hoo" in the html-code. Another update: is no longer there and substituted by . Sounds no different, although. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo, Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: janovefu@eunet.no (Jan Ove) Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com has changed Date: 25 Mar 1997 23:42:40 GMT On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:21:55 +0100, lbo wrote: >I was just notified by an automatic robot that the abovesaid page was = changed. > >it should be something very subtle because the page look as usual to = me... :-) It seems they have made a link to an alternative index-page (index2.htm) and another link to some background music (klingklang5.au) Access to these new links are forbidden! As usual we'll have to wait and see... Jan Ove --=20 http://login.eunet.no/~janovefu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: (kw) w3.kw.com Date: 26 Mar 1997 02:01:50 +0100 Well, now those links (index2.html & index3.html) are working anyway! Though all that's finally shown is an imagelink to the TG site (and the new .au's). -- E m a n u e l M a i r _____________________________________ mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anika@Info.LiU.SE (Johan Jaatinen) Subject: Re: (kw) Daft Punk & Kraftwerk Date: 26 Mar 1997 03:00:24 -0400 >Spex 4/1997 reports that it is rumoured that only one person besides >EMI employees and Kraftwerk themselves has a tape of the forthcoming >Kraftwerk album so far: Thomas Bangalter from Daft Punk, who was >apparently booked for remixing some of the tracks. So? What are you waiting for? Kidnap him! >Kraftwerk >Computer World + 1 Extra Track (Dentaku) (Jpn) >JapanEMITOCP-8974 >Japanese Version Of The Pop Electronic Pioneer's 1981 Studio Album That >Adds The Japanese Version Of 'pocket Calculator' And Two Mixes Of 'tour >De France' (original And Instrumental). 7/12/96 compact disc 37.97 Sorry if I'm making a terrible fool out of myself, but I'm new to the list and I just read the FAQ, which said that the only official CD containing "Tour de France" was some hard-to-get compilation. What's this then? By the way, hi everybody. Cheers, Johan. ,,, /'~'\ ( 0 0 ) +----------------------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo----------------------------+ Johan Jaatinen Intelligent dance musician Anika@Info.LiU.SE Oooo. Radio DJ MU WILL RISE AGAIN .oooO ( ) Vegetarian +-----------------------------( )----) /------------------------------+ \ ( (_/ \_) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hiroshi MURATA Subject: Re: (kw) Daft Punk & Kraftwerk Date: 26 Mar 1997 11:20:15 +0900 At 03:00 26/Mar/1997 -0400, Anika@Info.LiU.SE (Johan Jaatinen) wrote: > >Kraftwerk > >Computer World + 1 Extra Track (Dentaku) (Jpn) > >JapanEMITOCP-8974 > >Japanese Version Of The Pop Electronic Pioneer's 1981 Studio Album That > >Adds The Japanese Version Of 'pocket Calculator' And Two Mixes Of 'tour > >De France' (original And Instrumental). 7/12/96 compact disc 37.97 > > Sorry if I'm making a terrible fool out of myself, but I'm new to the list > and I just read the FAQ, which said that the only official CD containing > "Tour de France" was some hard-to-get compilation. What's this then? I'm afraid to say it, but the CD doesn't have "Tour De France." It has eight tracks, all seven tracks and "Dentaku" as the (only) bonus track. On sale since 29/Jan/1997. 2500 yen here. It's true there was once an announcement for the CD with *three* bonus tracks as above, but it's cancelled... :-( ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo, Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) New album 411 Date: 25 Mar 1997 21:52:20 EST Does anyone know (and yes, I've asked this before) what US label has the world's greatest band? I've e-mailed Elektra several times, but they never answer their e-mail. Hey, ROBOT, if you're still there, any luck getting through to Sylvia Rhone???? The Notorious B.I.G., 1972-1997, RIP. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) New album 411 Date: 25 Mar 1997 22:40:31 -0800 Yo, Adam/Muziknut2 and Fellow WERKers, Yeah, I'm still here- barely! This f*cking Infernal Maschine keeps = having Technical DifFU*Kleties! It really sux being off line for 2 = weeks. -(But, not being missed REALLY bites. :[ ROBOGRUMPY)- No luck reaching Sylvia Rhone or ANYbody in the know. I think they're = still with EMI overseas. I dunno. With KW, EV'rything's a = Mystery.*sigh*. Wanna buy a BootLeg T-shirt? :] ROBOSMILEY I gotta check the SCI-FI DOMINION BBOARD. Maybe SOMEbody in ComputerLand = missed me.... *sigh* OOH! OOH! Speaking of SCI-FI, in the STAR WARS Cantina tune -(ala Benny = Goodman)- I disTINCTly hear a high-pitched alien voice cheering, = "AUTOBAHN!", a few bars into the song. Can anyone with decent hearing = confirm/deny? ROBOTiK Love, ROBOT@humboldt1.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gustav Holmberg" Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com has changed Date: 26 Mar 1997 08:12:59 +0000 > It seems they have made a link to an alternative index-page > (index2.htm) and another link to some background music > (klingklang5.au) And klingklang6.au, which is a _great_ piece out of The Robots, complete with animated robot (index3.htm). I'm beginning to like this! /Gustav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) TranceWerk Express Date: 26 Mar 1997 02:24:39 EST Does anyone know if the TranceWerk tributes on Hypnotic/Cleopatra/Caroline/Virgin are any good???? I think that Cleopatra, as a label, is rather cheesy, naah mean? The Notorious B.I.G., 1972-1997, RIP. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour.JGENTI@ifp.fr (Timour JGENTI) Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com has changed Date: 26 Mar 1997 10:11:34 +0100 > And klingklang6.au, which is a _great_ piece out of The Robots, > complete with animated robot (index3.htm). I'm beginning to like > this! Funny, i did rather the same with my KW page: starting audio sample from "the robots" (with javascript) check this: http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/kw.html :) Although my animated robot gif is not as beautiful as that real one ;-) ( http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/images/robanim4.gif ) Tim. -- Timour JGENTI, Institut Francais du Petrole ______________________________________________ __ timour.jgenti@ifp.fr __ http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/ __ http://home.pages.de/~interspace/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour.JGENTI@ifp.fr (Timour JGENTI) Subject: (kw) erratum Date: 26 Mar 1997 13:27:54 +0100 Sorry about my post to this list where i told about a comparison between kraftwerk.com site and mine. The fact is that by a cruel irony my site was closed just some hours ago... the server that kept my pages was shutdown and will remain so for an indeterminate delay, RIP. Tim. -- Timour JGENTI, Institut Francais du Petrole ______________________________________________ __ timour.jgenti@ifp.fr __ http://www.mygale... SITE CLOSED, world of shit... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) Rational Youth Date: 26 Mar 1997 16:18:48 +0100 Hi!=20 =20 I just got a message from the members of Rational Youth and they (EMI)=20 will reissue the "Cold War Night Life" album on CD in May...=20 =20 This album (from 1983) is actually quite KW-like...which means I=20 recommend it...=20 =20 For further info, check their Homepage:=20 http://www.lglobal.com/~fitzhowe/ry=20 =20 / Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com has changed Date: 26 Mar 1997 04:36:13 -0500 Message text written by "Gustav Holmberg" >And klingklang6.au, which is a _great_ piece out of The Robots, complete with animated robot (index3.htm). I'm beginning to like this!< Mystery upon Mystery, The link back to the Tribal Gathering Site also has a link back to www.kraftwerk.com. It's on the global links page (can't remember the url) It's all happening chaps, what next? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Ticketsliste Date: 26 Mar 1997 22:21:44 +0000 Kraftwerk's concert agency MCT offers now a mailing list service for tour schedule updates. The subscription address for the "Ticketsliste" mailing list is majordomo@Tnet.de Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) MicrowaveII and Kraftwerk.com Date: 26 Mar 1997 19:33:33 -0800 Hi both user groups!! I find a striking similarity in the art or Kraftwerk's Kraftwerk.com homepage and the silk screen on the front of the MicrowaveII synth! Actually the Kraftwerk page's art is imitating a High frequency sub-microwave radio signal...maybe the filter sound file that plays is the microwaveII's digital filter? wild guess! Philip Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Dentaku Date: 26 Mar 1997 18:55:43 -0500 Fellow Kraftwerkians, I was just listening to "Dentaku" and wondering why it seems that the vocal track on "Dentaku" is more mechanized or computerized than its English language counterpart "Pocket Calculator". I was wondering if there was some kind of additional speech synthesizer being employed simultaneously with the human vocal on "Dentaku"? Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "Je suis l'operateur du mini calculateur..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hiroshi MURATA Subject: Re: (kw) Dentaku Date: 27 Mar 1997 09:29:44 +0900 Greetings from Tokyo Japan. At 18:55 26/Mar/1997 -0500, "Scott M. Barnhill" wrote: > I was just listening to "Dentaku" and wondering why it seems that > the vocal track on "Dentaku" is more mechanized or computerized than its > English language counterpart "Pocket Calculator". I was wondering if there > was some kind of additional speech synthesizer being employed simultaneously > with the human vocal on "Dentaku"? I'm afraid I can't say anything about R&F's decision, but Japanese language has very few vowels (only five) and it seldomly occurs that we can't tell a vowel from another. I guess it's easier to mechanize their voices when they're speaking in Japanese. Also, compared to most other alphabet-user languages, well spoken Japanese sounds very flat and equalized, doesn't it? ;-) It might sound computerized. (and we can do it easily if we'd like) Dewa mata. (lit. "See you" in a casual form) Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo, Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Tribal Gathering Update" Date: 27 Mar 1997 16:10:28 +0000 Taken from the April issue of MUZIK: "Tribal Gathering Update [...] Commenting on Kraftwerk's headline slot at the event, meanwhile, Universe's Ian Jenkinson said 'We've had a phenomenal response to the news, the band are excited as well and it takes a lot to get them excited. It's going to be a landmark show and I doubt that they'll be doing another one in the next five years.' " # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk at Musik Messe Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:49:29 GMT (Apologies if anyone has already posted about this; I think a couple of digests may have got lost en route to me). According to the April issue of the music technology magazine 'Sound On Sound', "... Kraftwerk... were spotted on the Quasimid stand at the recent Frankfurt Musik Messe... They have been Quasimidi users for several years, and played mixes from what should be their next album - and that's all-new material rather than remixes". Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Remake Red" Date: 27 Mar 1997 21:46:55 +0000 I've noticed the following in the Esprit Mailorder catalogue (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/esprit): > KRAFTWERK Remake Red (German only limited edition RED vinyl 12" > inc Radioactivity & Trans Europe Express Trance & Electro!!) > UK 6.99 / $ 11.00 Are any more details about this release known? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: genio@mail.telepac.pt Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk NG Date: 27 Mar 1997 19:28:38 GMT Is the kraftwerk newsgroup working? Miguel Reis genio@mail.telepac.pt miguelreis@mail.telepac.pt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) "Remake Red" Date: 27 Mar 1997 23:15:37 +0100 At 21:46 27-03-97 +0000, you wrote: > >I've noticed the following in the Esprit Mailorder catalogue >(http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/esprit): > >> KRAFTWERK Remake Red (German only limited edition RED vinyl 12" >> inc Radioactivity & Trans Europe Express Trance & Electro!!) >> UK 6.99 / $ 11.00 > >Are any more details about this release known? > Well, it's been out a couple of months. There's a purple one as well, with remakes of Kraftwerk tunes. I heard the Radioactivity a while a go, and i thought it was pretty bad, IMHO. Definitely not a Kraftwerk production, (I think :)) Laterz, JOhan. -- God is a subwoofer, and he listen to drum & bass. Turn up thy religion! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:00:21 +0100 From: lbo Subject: (kw) tshirt what happened to the bootshirt idea? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) let's monitor the press! Date: 28 Mar 1997 13:00:17 +0100 as you read, I spotted an article about Kraftwerk on an italian newspaper. now that this Tribal Gathering thing is going to happen, I think it will be likely for the press to cover our old glories. could those who want/can monitorate their country press, and tell what happen so eventually we can see to get a copy of the mag? (btw: Klaus, thanks for the Mojo hint, I think I'll be able to find it). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Dentaku Date: 28 Mar 1997 13:00:23 +0100 At 18.55 26/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >was some kind of additional speech synthesizer being employed simultaneously >with the human vocal on "Dentaku"? mmmh... actually, I thought they choose to have it sung by a true japanese speaking instead of themselves... do the japanese listies think it's spelled with a correct accent? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) kraftwerk on italian newspaper! Date: 28 Mar 1997 13:00:14 +0100 dear friends, last wednesday, 26/03, Kraftwerk were given a large coverage in the music insert of the second most read italian newspaper, "la Repubblica", an insert called "Musica!". I personally don't like too much the newspaper and particularly not the insert: you know, some hype masqueraded by a sort of independent, juvenilist, anticonformist conformism attitude, say grunge but trendy and griffed by Calvin Klein: yeah, you're a young rebel but give us a lot your daddy's money for this pair of very rebel plastic shoes. Anyway, not talking about this. Kraftwerk were given the first page and a two page retrospective article on this insert that is a sort of a magazine the dimension of a folded tabloid. No new images and no new facts, some minor inaccuracies (Kraftwerk never performed four times in Genova, let apart four days in a row as stated - then again, a guy me and Zaepke know lived in Genova... :-) ). An inaccuracy I did not liked was this passage I am trying to traslate at my best: "Only now [that the Tribal Gathering concert-rentr=E9e is going to happen] it seem that there would be some news [some new material]: indiscretions about a completely new album are going on and on in the 'discussion group' [quotes are mine] that gravitate around their telematic site (at the address http://www.kraftwerk.com) even if there is nothing sure or official." It's likely the journalist don't know the difference from an internet site, a newsgroup and a mailing list. I'll try to write him. The other feeling that emanated from the article was a sort of "Wow, now we young brilliant types have a mean to know this old seminal band". Written from journalist in their 30s-40s it does not seem so appropriate. Finally, the newspaper has an internet site, www.repubblica.it, with a "music" menu, but I did not found nothing related. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) More rumours... Date: 28 Mar 1997 08:18:22 EST I can't qualify this as anything more than rumour, therefore be warned... I've heard that EMI in the UK will issue DJ-only promo 12" singles of 'Home Computer', 'Music Non Stop', 'Trans-Europe Express' and 'Numbers' at the end of April. There will also be re-issues (as two x CD sets) of some albums too, in June. There may also be a new single (but no LP) to co-incide with 'Tribal Gathering' Like I say... this is just rumour at present; don't hold your breath. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) * FOR KRAFTWERK FANS * Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:20:56 +0000 Taken from rec.music.industrial: KRAFTWELT walk in pioneers footsteps Kraftwelt (pronounced craft-velt) are four young Danish men who are following in the footsteps of German electronic pioneers Kraftwerk. Borrowing loosely from the name of their chief inspiration Kraftwelt deliver the goods. They have created a contemporary electronic album that pushes the philosophy forward without apologies. XLR8R Magazine writes, "the ear is drawn in to the soundwolrds created here in a way that most techno albums fail to do." Chicago's taste-maker electronica publication 1000 WORDS says, "This entire release carries on in the minimalist electro field the German gods mined with their seminal releases, with updated electronics and a bit of an ambient/deconstruction twist on the formula". Even venturing into the more mainstream press OPTION declares, "Kraftwelt adds samples, loops and other effects, as well as current dance rhythms, to create an electrosphere that isn't completely derivative of the work of the above mentioned pioneers". Not content with their own explorations the band enlisted over a dozen other artists to offer remixes of the track "Deranged" for the "Deranged In Space" Ep. From these remixes the band selected the Uberzone remix for the ultra high-end computer animated video which is enjoying exposure on MTV's new electronica show "AMP". The highly stylized computer animation was created by digital artist Glenn Grillo for Night Tribe Productions based in Los Angeles. The video imagery complements the bands state-of-the-art sound perfectly. The "Deranged In Space" Ep also contains remixes by such varied and respected electronic artists as Kinder Atom, Surface 10, Zero Gravity and Coercion to name a few. Kraftwelt are currently working on new material and are also preparing to tour the US with leading Swiss act LCD later this year. The video for "Deranged" was so impressed Gameworks (a Dreamworks SKG company) that they licensed the clip to show case their mega-projectors that reside in the new ultra-arcades the company is building across America. http://www.hallucinet.com/cleopatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) let's monitor the press! Date: 28 Mar 1997 17:21:22 +0000 > now that this Tribal Gathering thing is going to happen, I think it will be > likely for the press to cover our old glories. > could those who want/can monitorate their country press, and tell what > happen so eventually we can see to get a copy of the mag? This seems to be a good occasion to mention my "Kraftwerk Online Library" again (http://home.t-online.de/home/Zaepke/kraftwer.htm). As my WWW disk space is limited to 1 MB, it is not possible for me to make more scanned Kraftwerk press articles directly available, but if somebody who has a new (or old) Kraftwerk article could scan it and put it onto his own WWW pages, please let me know, and I will gladly link it with my "Online Library". ASCII transcriptions of Kraftwerk articles are welcome as well, of course, and I have even some disk space left to make ASCII articles directly available via the "Online Library". Finally, I am always interested in swapping photocopies of Kraftwerk press material, so if you are interested in swapping, and if you should have any Kraftwerk press articles I'm still missing (my own collection is more or less identical with the references in my "Online Library"), please get it contact! :-) Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Dentaku Date: 29 Mar 1997 13:43:21 +0900 At 13:00 28/Mar/1997 +0100, lbo wrote: > At 18.55 26/03/97 -0500, you wrote: > >was some kind of additional speech synthesizer being employed simultaneously > >with the human vocal on "Dentaku"? > > mmmh... actually, I thought they choose to have it sung by a true japanese > speaking instead of themselves... > > do the japanese listies think it's spelled with a correct accent? Grammatiaclly perfect, but their pronounciation sound like Japanese beginners. We can easily understand what they say, though. p.s. I've been believing the song is by themselves, plus some vocoder effect. If any one of you have a source which explains how it's produced, could you please let us know? ;-) ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Barth" Subject: Re: (kw) Dentaku Date: 29 Mar 1997 07:20:18 +0100 > ... > p.s. I've been believing the song is by themselves, > plus some vocoder effect. > If any one of you have a source which explains how it's > produced, could you please let us know? ;-) > Well, I have _heard_ that in the early eighties, There were some contacts between KW and the Yellow Magic Orchestra, so if that is true, it could be that they helped KW in translation and pronounciation. Some other suggestios? Erik Barth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Dentaku Date: 29 Mar 1997 19:10:47 +0900 Minasan, kon-nichiwa, At 07:20 29/Mar/1997 +0100, "Erik Barth" wrote: >> p.s. I've been believing the song is by themselves, >> plus some vocoder effect. >> If any one of you have a source which explains how it's >> produced, could you please let us know? ;-) >> > >Well, > >I have _heard_ that in the early eighties, There were some contacts between >KW and the Yellow Magic Orchestra, so if that is true, it could be that >they helped KW in translation and pronounciation. > >Some other suggestios? An explanation is found in Japanese reissue of "Computerworld" TOCP-8974. :-) Written in Japanese, though. :-( It says that a Japanese, Mr. Shikura (? I guess so but am unsure how I should read his name - kanji is pretty complicated!) who lives in Duesseldorf, helped KW for translation and pronounciation. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dirk Fellhauer" Subject: AW: Re: (kw) Dentaku Date: 29 Mar 1997 13:20:17 PST | p.s. I've been believing the song is by themselves, | plus some vocoder effect. | If any one of you have a source which explains how it's | produced, could you please let us know? ;-) | | | Hi to everyone ! As far as I know this particular ´vovoder´-sound is being produced via a very short delay ( about 20 ms ) in combination with a flat accentuation of the words while speaking or recording them. This causes the words to sound very mechanic, or robotic. For those of you who know the "Mr. Roboto" album by STYX - there is a quite similar effect on effect in the line " domo arigato Mr. Roboto - DOMO " ( sorry for the wrong pronounciation !!!! ) . The fab four have been using this effect several times before. I think it is a mixture out of the "real" voice of the singer and the above mentioned delay technique see ya ! Dirk ES WIRD IMMER WEITERGEHN MUSIK ALS TRÄGER VON IDEEN ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Dentaku Date: 29 Mar 1997 16:32:03 +0000 > their pronounciation sound like Japanese beginners. > > An explanation is found in Japanese reissue of "Computerworld" > It says that a Japanese, Mr. Shikura (?) who lives in Duesseldorf, helped > KW for translation and pronounciation. Hmm, if this Mr. Shikura is identical with the person who did the lyric transcriptions for the booklet of the Japanese "Computerworld" CD ("natural ran my Homecomputer in myself and to the future"...), it wouldn't surprise me if he had also the pronounciation skills of a beginner. :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Space" Subject: Re: (kw) Digital synthesis Date: 29 Mar 1997 17:24:09 +0200 > Why does (seemingly) everyone on this list seem to hate digital > synthesizers so much that it's almost as if digital is a dirty word or > something? I think "The Mix" has a very nice, rich sound that benefits > heavily from the use of digital synthesizers, and they should have > digitally recorded both "The Mix" and "Electric Cafe," naah mean? > ....on Electric Cafe especially as using DX-7 preset-Rom cartridge 2, Bank B (as I remember my old brown DX7) without any modifications (with delay, of course)... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: Re: (kw) Digital synthesis Date: 29 Mar 1997 15:00:00 -0800 Tom Space wrote: > > Why does (seemingly) everyone on this list seem to hate digital > > synthesizers so much that it's almost as if digital is a dirty word or > > something? I think "The Mix" has a very nice, rich sound that benefits > > heavily from the use of digital synthesizers, and they should have > > digitally recorded both "The Mix" and "Electric Cafe," naah mean? I agree, Kraftwerk are about sounds not technologies on how you achieve the sounds. I think that they use technology for convienience and editing power. Give someone a DX-7 and they'll mostly make noise give R&F a DX-7 and they'll always make nice interesting sounds. Analog, digital, sample, resynthesis, flute ...who cares as long as it sounds good. Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & Quasimidi Date: 30 Mar 1997 09:33:34 +0000 I've just received a private message from somebody who asked me for details about Kraftwerk's alleged collaboration with Quasimidi, as mentioned in digest v02.n501. Studying digest v02.n501 I've found the following message about Quasimidi: > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:48:12 +0100 (MET) > Subject: Re: Doepfer System A-100 Modul-Synthesizer > Really-From: Thomas Weckert > > Additionally, they did (I think in 1993) several tracks for a demo CD > of Quasimidi, the texture of the tracks was like Homecomputer, > Autobahn, The Robots, etc., and that was it. Qusimidi itself never > officially stated they they were done by Kraftwerk, they just said > that they were recorded in a klinging Klang-Studio in Duesseldorf... I do strongly suspect that this story is a hoax, as none of the commonly known Quasimidi demo CD's fits into the above description. However, if somebody should be able to disprove me, I would appreciate his comments. Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) "Remake Red" Date: 30 Mar 1997 18:45:46 +0000 > >> KRAFTWERK Remake Red (German only limited edition RED vinyl 12" > >> inc Radioactivity & Trans Europe Express Trance & Electro!!) > >> UK 6.99 / $ 11.00 > > Well, it's been out a couple of months. There's a purple one as well, with > remakes of Kraftwerk tunes. Has this purple one the tracklisting "Home Computer" / "Trans Europe Express", or is it something else? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) "Remake Red" Date: 30 Mar 1997 22:36:05 +0200 At 18:45 30-03-97 +0000, you wrote: > >> >> KRAFTWERK Remake Red (German only limited edition RED vinyl 12" >> >> inc Radioactivity & Trans Europe Express Trance & Electro!!) >> >> UK 6.99 / $ 11.00 >> >> Well, it's been out a couple of months. There's a purple one as well, with >> remakes of Kraftwerk tunes. > The 12"s made such a mindblowing impact that i can't remember :) No, sorry, i thought it was utter trash, so i really can't remember anymore, sorry. Laterz, Johan. -- God is a subwoofer, and he listen to drum & bass. Turn up thy religion! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) On TV! Date: 30 Mar 1997 20:38:10 EST I saw the weirdest ad today. Not to go that much off topic, but I distinctly heard Aphex Twin's music in an ad for Castrol Syntec oil of all things! It was a track from his "Classics" album. I can't get over how bizarre that is! Has KW's music been used in any English-language ads? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) re: KW MusiK in Ads Date: 30 Mar 1997 19:35:27 -0800 Adam Shefflan/Muziknut2 was talking about Aphex Twin's MusiK in an Ad = for Castrol Syntec Oil- KooL! As for KW's MusiK, I've seen atleast 2 local Ads -I mentioned it a = coupla months ago, I think- one Ad for Henderson Center Bicycles here in = Eureka, CA -(guess what tune they used!)-, and I think there was a San = Fransisco ad for some Theater Group -("Legit", not Movies)-, playing RA = in the background. 'Can't remember the visuals- a bunch of fade in/out = shots of the players, I think. Oh, and RA was also used in a Radio = Shack-type Electronics Store Ad, with guys -(in DEVO suits?!!)- = walking/fading in & out the door carrying boxes. Weird, but, KooL! The = most PerfeKt application was Der ROBOTER as background MusiK during a = Factory ROBOTiKs scene in a Documentary on German Industrial = Manufacturing.*sigh*. Right up my alley! It went along with my = Drafting/Machine Tool studies at the time. Spotnik had reported seeing a = Canadian program showing MagLev Trains, featuring TEE as accompianment! = Very Nice! How'bout REAL KRAFTWERK songs/videos? They're showing M2 now on MTV, = weekdays at 2pm PST. AllRIGHT! YeaH! Let's bombard 'em with KW requests! = Musique Non Stop would be EXcellent- I've never seen it. -(DAMN me for = missing The Model on AMP -like, the first week it was on!*ARGH*!)- I = GOTTA get KW vids on tape! All I have is a bit of the AB "soundcheck" = from that Bambaata segment on Rock & Roll a while back. I've seen Model, = TEE, 'Phone & a different AB video a long time ago, but, that's it. I = hesitate to buy the Stop Sellafield video- only 2 KW songs, interrupted = by Propaganda.*GrrrR*. OH! I need the NEW link to Thomas Weckert's Picture Gallery so I can fix = my BookMarks- Schoenes KW Bilder! Hallo, Thomas? Wo bist Du? BITTE = schreib' mir- Vielen Dank! I'm outta here.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Havok24@aol.com Subject: (kw) re: KW musique on tv Date: 31 Mar 1997 01:07:43 -0500 (EST) re the discussion about kw's music showing up on tv... i'm sure all SNL (saturday night live) fans here in america (and abroad) remember the theme to 'SPROKETS' (electric cafe, played at a slightly faster speed than usual) ,with the ever -charming dieter (mike myers) as host. and for those of us who used to call 1-800-DIAL-MTV to cast our vote for best video of the day, remember the music that accompanied those little jingles? (well, i'm sure you can guess, even if you have no clue what i'm talking about...) aside from that, there's another matter that i'd like to get some feedback on. i recently (out of curiosity) bought 'electric demension' by kraftwelt. i have mixed impressions about it and wondered what some of yous guys thought. thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) re: KW musique on tv Date: 31 Mar 1997 09:47:48 +0200 Here in holland we've got het Jeugdjournaal (lit: Youth News), which is world news, but then explained that a 10-year old could understand the things that happen on the globe. Anywayz, they use bits and pieces from Radio Activity (The Mix version) as the start, end and middle pieces here. Nice huh? Laterz, Johan. -- God is a subwoofer, and he listen to drum & bass. Turn up thy religion! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Nilsson Subject: KW in school Was: (kw) KW musique on tv Date: 31 Mar 1997 11:16:16 +0100 I remember when I was in 7th grade. In music class, part of Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" (original version) was actually as part of the education. I recall it was when we should experience the stereo effect. /Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henning Colsman-Freyberger Subject: (kw) KW-inspired track by apollo440 Date: 31 Mar 1997 04:48:13 +0200 I'm listening to apolloffourforty's new album "electroglide in blue" at the moment and just noticed that the beat of the third track, "Altamont Super-Highway Revisited", is that of KW's "Autobahn". KW is not being sampled per se, the tune is the beat/basis of the a440 track. You can best hear what I mean at times 0:00-0:57, 3:13-3:47 and 4:49-5:05. Or am I just nuts and hearing KW in every music I listen to? Henning not@mit.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Leidecker Subject: Re: (kw) On TV! Date: 31 Mar 1997 02:46:40 -0800 At 08:38 PM 3/30/97 EST, Adam Schefflan wrote: >I saw the weirdest ad today. Not to go that much off topic, but I >distinctly heard Aphex Twin's music in an ad for Castrol Syntec oil of >all things! It was a track from his "Classics" album. I can't get over >how bizarre that is! Has KW's music been used in any English-language >ads? Peace. I swear to something, and with the greatest disgust, that the downbeat in 'Home Computer' is sampled for under half a second in the new Miller 'It's Time For A Good Old Fashioned Microbrew' advertisement. The music is faux-rootsy blues with occasional odd details, and then in one of them (not in all of them), right at the very end, stolen Kraftwerk. I was barely paying attention to the add, but it's one of the most distinctive .5 second samples in the world. Yes it hurts. And I'm worried that I noticed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: (kw) Re: KW in school Date: 31 Mar 1997 14:13:36 +0100 On 31-Mar-97 A.D., Daniel Nilsson carved the following runes about "KW in school Was: (kw) KW musique on tv": >I remember when I was in 7th grade. In music class, part of Kraftwerk's >"Autobahn" (original version) was actually as part of the education. I >recall >it was when we should experience the stereo effect. Aaah, the ONLY pleasant experience of the Swedish educational system... I remember when we were treated with Computerwelt in music class, as an example of electronic music in musical history. Of course the other kids frowned at this and we went back to the usual prog/political music... "Meeeemories" - Ren & Stimpy... Gerade aus! -- E m a n u e l M a i r _____________________________________ mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) Rational Youth Date: 31 Mar 1997 18:38:47 +0200 Mats Kadmark wrote: > I just got a message from the members of Rational Youth and they (EMI) > will reissue the "Cold War Night Life" album on CD in May... > > This album (from 1983) is actually quite KW-like...which means I > recommend it... Obvious Kraftwerk beats and bleeps are present on this album, tahts for sure. /Andreas -- 'We are very gentle with our machines. Sometimes they respond very friendly.' Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) re: Sprocketts/Yo, Geoff! Where's my KW Albums? Date: 31 Mar 1997 12:02:19 -0800 -(Havoc24 gave an EXcellent reminder- ThanX!)- Oh, yeah! How could I forget "Sprocketts" on SNL? Shame on me! BAD = ROBOT! I'm in BIG trouble now. No recharge for me today- *WAH-H-H*! But, = I do recall seeing a kid's program on PBS a few years ago with a speeded = up version of TEE playing during a sk8boarding scene.... Okay, so, my PositroniK Brain is experiencing some Memory loss- but, = really, I wish Geoff aka: Rac Shade at WHRB -(Is that right?)- in = Cambridge would send back my Irreplaceable IMPORT KW Vinyl! Yeah, I'm an = IDIOT for being so trusting and loaning my most Precious Posessions, = but, I did it for the sheer LOVE of KW and wanting to help spread the = VIBES far & wide. -(For the "KRAFTWERK Orgy" Program, remember?)- I'll = do ANYthing to promote The True GODS of All Things TECHNO, but, can I = have my records back now? PLEEEEEZE?? Could some Fellow FanatiKs in the = Boston area Email me the Snail Mail Address -(and correct name)- of the = Radio Station so I can write an old-fashioned letter to Geoff = -(Oldfield? Does anyone know his last name?)- and "nudge" him a little? = I'm really hurtin' for certain. 'My own fault, but, I don't deserve to = be ripped off. I love KW TOO much....*sigh*.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com P.O.Box# 786 Eureka, CA 95502-0786 USA Sol III Milky Way # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweckert@ernie.mi.uni-koeln.de (Thomas Weckert) Subject: Re: (kw) re: KW MusiK in Ads Date: 31 Mar 1997 23:18:20 +0200 >OH! I need the NEW link to Thomas Weckert's Picture Gallery so I can fix >my BookMarks- Schoenes KW Bilder! Hallo, Thomas? Wo bist Du? BITTE >schreib' mir- Vielen Dank! > Rrrrrrabotnikkkk! Here I am: http://home.pages.de/~kraftwerk T. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) re; Dentaku Date: 31 Mar 1997 15:34:56 EST >> I have _heard_ that in the early eighties, There were some contacts between >> KW and the Yellow Magic Orchestra, so if that is true, it could be that >> they helped KW in translation and pronounciation. >> >> Some other suggestios? Ralf Huetter was interviewed by Riuichi Sakamoto of YMO (in his role as journalist for 'Music Life'' magazine) in September 1981. In the article he (Huetter) is also pictured along with both Sakamoto and Yukihiro Takahashi of YMO - a reproduction of this can be found in Aktivitaet issue 7, last page. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) 'Remake' 12" Singles Date: 31 Mar 1997 16:06:46 +0000 > >> >> KRAFTWERK Remake Red (German only limited edition RED vinyl 12" > >> >> inc Radioactivity & Trans Europe Express Trance & Electro!!) > >> > >> Well, it's been out a couple of months. There's a purple one as > >> well Examining the most recent ESPRIT mailorder update, I notice that there seems to be also a yellow one: > KRAFTWERK Remake Blue (German only 12" single limited edition > YELLOW vinyl inc Techno version of Trans Europa Express!!) UK > 6.99 / $ 11.00 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Barrett Subject: Re: (kw) On TV! Date: 31 Mar 1997 06:41:13 -0800 At 08:38 PM 3/30/97 EST, Adam Schefflan wrote: >I saw the weirdest ad today. Not to go that much off topic, but I >distinctly heard Aphex Twin's music in an ad for Castrol Syntec oil of >all things! It was a track from his "Classics" album. I can't get over >how bizarre that is! Has KW's music been used in any English-language >ads? Peace. I don't know about ad use, but I've occasionally heard KW tunes used in American TV news shows to accompany a certain news story. I also recall hearing the opening of "Telephone Call" used as background music on a comedy radio show while the DJ introduced one of Lily Tomlin's sketches about Ernestine the Operator. -----------------Justin Barrett----------------- Owner: Dreamscape Productions Production Assistant: Northland Cable Television # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Barrett Subject: (kw) Re: KW in school Date: 31 Mar 1997 06:47:52 -0800 At 11:16 AM 3/31/97 +0100, Daniel Nilsson wrote: >I remember when I was in 7th grade. In music class, part of Kraftwerk's >"Autobahn" (original version) was actually as part of the education. I recall >it was when we should experience the stereo effect. Speaking of KW in school, I used "The Voice of Energy" during an exercise in a science-fiction writing club in my senior year. Each week someone brought 3 or 4 pieces of "music" to play, and we would all write down the imagery that came to our minds as we listened to each piece. There were some interesting reactions from that non-musical KW clip... -----------------Justin Barrett----------------- Owner: Dreamscape Productions Production Assistant: Northland Cable Television # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) On TV! Date: 31 Mar 1997 16:24:41 -0700 (MST) > I saw the weirdest ad today. Not to go that much off topic, but I > distinctly heard Aphex Twin's music in an ad for Castrol Syntec oil of > all things! How is that any weirder than the Aphex-scored Pirelli ad that's been running for the last year and a half? :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P. Vannarath" Subject: RE: (kw) TranceWerk Express Date: 31 Mar 1997 12:51:34 UT >Does anyone know if the TranceWerk tributes on >Hypnotic/Cleopatra/Caroline/Virgin are any good???? I think that >Cleopatra, as a label, is rather cheesy, naah mean? The Notorious B.I.G., >1972-1997, RIP. Peace. Hi everyone, I am new in the list and i am listening to kraftwerk for a very very long time. I have 'TranceWerk tribute vol 2' and it is quite good ! Does someone have the volume 1 ? What are the song remixed in this one ? Thanks in advance. >>> Bonjour a tous les fans de Kraftwerk <<< # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender.